The banana thing is so dumb. Five minutes of surfing the net utterly destroys it.
Or, you know, logical thought.
Woah, woah. Don't get all radical on me with your godless, humanist, pinko commie anarchist ivory tower intellectual elitist "logical thought." I mean, if you pray on it, this "logical thought" thing is really a religion too, eh?
The banana thing is so dumb. Five minutes of surfing the net utterly destroys it.
Or, you know, logical thought.
Woah, woah. Don't get all radical on me with your godless, humanist, pinko commie anarchist ivory tower intellectual elitist "logical thought." I mean, if you pray on it, this "logical thought" thing is really a religion too, eh?
You laughin' at me, boy? Get the hell off my lawn!
Like a lot of Comfort's stuff, it shows a lack of understanding at best and total dishonesty at worst.
I keep coming back to this idea, but shit only streches so far for me. It's only so reasonable to suggest that somebody is that fucking stupid before you have to question what they actually do know, and whether or not they're deliberately, knowingly hiding facts so they can manipulate people.
It goes from "he's just stupid" to "he's Cheney-evil" for me pretty quickly.
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Is it wrong if I bring my Xbox to school (and I have a roommate, and a suite with a total of 8 people including me) and I don't let anyone else play it because I barely have enough time to play videogames and I don't want people distracting me from my work?
Like a lot of Comfort's stuff, it shows a lack of understanding at best and total dishonesty at worst.
I keep coming back to this idea, but shit only streches so far for me. It's only so reasonable to suggest that somebody is that fucking stupid before you have to question what they actually do know, and whether or not they're deliberately, knowingly hiding facts so they can manipulate people.
It goes from "he's just stupid" to "he's Cheney-evil" for me pretty quickly.
Is this where I invoke Hanlon's Razor? Do you really think that most of these folks bother to educate themselves on evolutionary theory? It's really no different that the way folks cherry-pick from the bible; you just look for something you can use and ignore the rest.
Is it wrong if I bring my Xbox to school (and I have a roommate, and a suite with a total of 8 people including me) and I don't let anyone else play it because I barely have enough time to play videogames and I don't want people distracting me from my work?
Is it wrong if I bring my Xbox to school (and I have a roommate, and a suite with a total of 8 people including me) and I don't let anyone else play it because I barely have enough time to play videogames and I don't want people distracting me from my work?
Morally speaking, I'm gonna say no. Does it make much sense? Absolutely not. I mean, if you aren't going to use it, and they aren't allowed to use it, what's the point? Just put more ramen in the box where that hulking console was going.
How is someone playing x-box going to distract you? Unless it's in your room or something. Not letting other people play because you can't is lame. If it distracts you from your studies then its a good enough reason.
Like a lot of Comfort's stuff, it shows a lack of understanding at best and total dishonesty at worst.
I keep coming back to this idea, but shit only streches so far for me. It's only so reasonable to suggest that somebody is that fucking stupid before you have to question what they actually do know, and whether or not they're deliberately, knowingly hiding facts so they can manipulate people.
It goes from "he's just stupid" to "he's Cheney-evil" for me pretty quickly.
Is this where I invoke Hanlon's Razor? Do you really think that most of these folks bother to educate themselves on evolutionary theory? It's really no different that the way folks cherry-pick from the bible; you just look for something you can use and ignore the rest.
I don't think most people are evil, no, and I do assume ignorance in most cases, but when it comes to people like Ray Comfort, Mr. Confrontational Asshole Christian, I really do wonder if he's not got some ulterior motive for his shit.
Is it wrong if I bring my Xbox to school (and I have a roommate, and a suite with a total of 8 people including me) and I don't let anyone else play it because I barely have enough time to play videogames and I don't want people distracting me from my work?
I'd say it's not wrong, but it's kind of dickish. If you don't want it distracting you, don't bring it.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
What's the counter argument that's based purely on logical thought and not uncommon knowledge?
There are a huge variety of bananas. They picked the farmed, seedless variety, which would otherwise utterly fail if left without human interference.
That's not logic. It's knowledge.
IF you've eaten a banana, surely you've noticed that it doesn't have any seeds. I've always assumed that those things were specially grown becuase of their lack of seeds, just like navel oranges.
If you're worried about people distracting you while studying just tell them they can play it if you're not but not to ask you to play while you're studying?
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The AmPol thread keeps reminding me why I hated grade school recess. They'd literally kick us out of the classrooms, and even when I tried to stay in to read, do homework, or look at chapters we weren't doing yet the teacher pushed me out the door.
Even if the theory of evolution could be boiled down to matter+energy=life, the notion that opening a thousand (or even a few hundered thousand) jars of peanut butter disproves something that (in theory) has been occuring ever so slightly for the last million billion years (and longer), and has happened once (well, relatively, and that we know of), is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
Honestly, the complexity, time, scale, and outright luck that something like evolution (and the creation of life) takes sounds pretty damn godlike to me. It astounds me that "religion" and "science" are viewed as polar opposites by the majority of the population.
Jesus, the stupidity of that video is making my brain explode. I keep thinking of more and more to type out but...Jesus.
No, I'm going to use it, just I don't want people being like, do you wanna play with me now, please?
And this would be in my room
On my desk since I don't have a TV and only have a computer monitor
If it's in your room you have every right to tell people that you don't want them in your room while you're studying.
I thought you meant that you'd hook it up in the common area in your suite or something.
No, there's nothing wrong with keeping it in your room and telling people that you don't want them distracting you with video games while you're trying to do work.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Like a lot of Comfort's stuff, it shows a lack of understanding at best and total dishonesty at worst.
I keep coming back to this idea, but shit only streches so far for me. It's only so reasonable to suggest that somebody is that fucking stupid before you have to question what they actually do know, and whether or not they're deliberately, knowingly hiding facts so they can manipulate people.
It goes from "he's just stupid" to "he's Cheney-evil" for me pretty quickly.
Is this where I invoke Hanlon's Razor? Do you really think that most of these folks bother to educate themselves on evolutionary theory? It's really no different that the way folks cherry-pick from the bible; you just look for something you can use and ignore the rest.
I don't think most people are evil, no, and I do assume ignorance in most cases, but when it comes to people like Ray Comfort, Mr. Confrontational Asshole Christian, I really do wonder if he's not got some ulterior motive for his shit.
IF you've eaten a banana, surely you've noticed that it doesn't have any seeds. I've always assumed that those things were specially grown becuase of their lack of seeds, just like navel oranges.
I haven't eaten a banana since I was like 5. So, I don't really recall their seed status.
Is it wrong if I bring my Xbox to school (and I have a roommate, and a suite with a total of 8 people including me) and I don't let anyone else play it because I barely have enough time to play videogames and I don't want people distracting me from my work?
I'd say it's not wrong, but it's kind of dickish. If you don't want it distracting you, don't bring it.
It's not wrong at all. I don't even think it's particularly dickish.
The Xbox is yours and you decide whether anyone gets to put their grubby paws on it. They shouldn't be distracting you from your work in the first place, much less with your own stuff. You're bringing it to school, not making it public property.
No, I'm going to use it, just I don't want people being like, do you wanna play with me now, please?
And this would be in my room
On my desk since I don't have a TV and only have a computer monitor
If it's in your room you have every right to tell people that you don't want them in your room while you're studying.
I thought you meant that you'd hook it up in the common area in your suite or something.
No, there's nothing wrong with keeping it in your room and telling people that you don't want them distracting you with video games while you're trying to do work.
Yeah, I don't mind if like, my roommate played while I wasn't there. But I wanna be able to be like, no, without being a cock
IF you've eaten a banana, surely you've noticed that it doesn't have any seeds. I've always assumed that those things were specially grown becuase of their lack of seeds, just like navel oranges.
I haven't eaten a banana since I was like 5. So, I don't really recall their seed status.
You should eat bananas. Great for energy, so tasty.
What's the counter argument that's based purely on logical thought and not uncommon knowledge?
There are a huge variety of bananas. They picked the farmed, seedless variety, which would otherwise utterly fail if left without human interference.
That's not logic. It's knowledge.
IF you've eaten a banana, surely you've noticed that it doesn't have any seeds. I've always assumed that those things were specially grown becuase of their lack of seeds, just like navel oranges.
Interestingly, that's part of the problem with them, you can't make new Cavendish banana plants by any means other than propogation, so all Cavendish banana plants are genetically identical. This does not make for a disease resistant plant.
What's the counter argument that's based purely on logical thought and not uncommon knowledge?
There are a huge variety of bananas. They picked the farmed, seedless variety, which would otherwise utterly fail if left without human interference.
That's not logic. It's knowledge.
IF you've eaten a banana, surely you've noticed that it doesn't have any seeds. I've always assumed that those things were specially grown becuase of their lack of seeds, just like navel oranges.
Interestingly, that's part of the problem with them, you can't make new Cavendish banana plants by any means other than propogation, so all Cavendish banana plants are genetically identical. This does not make for a disease resistant plant.
Yeah, they were talking about that on NPR the other day. Also how alternative banana crops are becoming increasingly popular as a result of the money lost from pestilence on Cavendish crops.
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the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
There are a huge variety of bananas. They picked the farmed, seedless variety, which would otherwise utterly fail if left without human interference.
You laughin' at me, boy? Get the hell off my lawn!
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Not everybody knows about the origin or cultivation of the yellow seedless banana. Most people assume it just grows wild like every other plant.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
That's diiirty.
I keep coming back to this idea, but shit only streches so far for me. It's only so reasonable to suggest that somebody is that fucking stupid before you have to question what they actually do know, and whether or not they're deliberately, knowingly hiding facts so they can manipulate people.
It goes from "he's just stupid" to "he's Cheney-evil" for me pretty quickly.
Fuck being the operative word here, of course.
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Everybody knows Cavendish bananas, but I'd assume that most people are familiar with plantains and the variety of bananas you can get in Latino food.
That's not logic. It's knowledge.
Morally speaking, I'm gonna say no. Does it make much sense? Absolutely not. I mean, if you aren't going to use it, and they aren't allowed to use it, what's the point? Just put more ramen in the box where that hulking console was going.
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And this would be in my room
On my desk since I don't have a TV and only have a computer monitor
I don't think most people are evil, no, and I do assume ignorance in most cases, but when it comes to people like Ray Comfort, Mr. Confrontational Asshole Christian, I really do wonder if he's not got some ulterior motive for his shit.
I'd say it's not wrong, but it's kind of dickish. If you don't want it distracting you, don't bring it.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
IF you've eaten a banana, surely you've noticed that it doesn't have any seeds. I've always assumed that those things were specially grown becuase of their lack of seeds, just like navel oranges.
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Even if the theory of evolution could be boiled down to matter+energy=life, the notion that opening a thousand (or even a few hundered thousand) jars of peanut butter disproves something that (in theory) has been occuring ever so slightly for the last million billion years (and longer), and has happened once (well, relatively, and that we know of), is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
Honestly, the complexity, time, scale, and outright luck that something like evolution (and the creation of life) takes sounds pretty damn godlike to me. It astounds me that "religion" and "science" are viewed as polar opposites by the majority of the population.
Jesus, the stupidity of that video is making my brain explode. I keep thinking of more and more to type out but...Jesus.
If it's in your room you have every right to tell people that you don't want them in your room while you're studying.
I thought you meant that you'd hook it up in the common area in your suite or something.
No, there's nothing wrong with keeping it in your room and telling people that you don't want them distracting you with video games while you're trying to do work.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
KEEP GIVING MONEY TO MY CHURCH
I haven't eaten a banana since I was like 5. So, I don't really recall their seed status.
It's not wrong at all. I don't even think it's particularly dickish.
The Xbox is yours and you decide whether anyone gets to put their grubby paws on it. They shouldn't be distracting you from your work in the first place, much less with your own stuff. You're bringing it to school, not making it public property.
You should eat bananas. Great for energy, so tasty.
Interestingly, that's part of the problem with them, you can't make new Cavendish banana plants by any means other than propogation, so all Cavendish banana plants are genetically identical. This does not make for a disease resistant plant.
Yeah, they were talking about that on NPR the other day. Also how alternative banana crops are becoming increasingly popular as a result of the money lost from pestilence on Cavendish crops.