what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?
It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.
Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt.
Quicktime and iTunes don't really support anything but MP3 and AAC, you can install third-party packages but those don't work for anything except the common case of playing directly off the local drive. No streaming Vorbis from another computer for me, so I have to run my media player in a Linux virtual machine using VMWare.
do you hate having free time and a simple, trouble-free computer?
I love Linux because I get to actually use my computer instead of spending hours doing dumb system maintenance shit Windows demands.
Am I like the only person that has not been raped in the ass by Windows? Because I simply have not experienced all of these horror stories that people keep bringing up.
I've had pretty minimal hassles with Windows. I have linux installed because I like to tweak stuff and it's easier to tweak it in Ubuntu. Also the community support is pretty rad. Chances are, if there's something you want to try, somebody has written an exhaustive step-by-step tutorial on how to do it.
what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?
It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.
Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt.
Quicktime and iTunes don't really support anything but MP3 and AAC, you can install third-party packages but those don't work for anything except the common case of playing directly off the local drive. No streaming Vorbis from another computer for me, so I have to run my media player in a Linux virtual machine using VMWare.
well I'm not computer savvy enough to give a shit about the first two, but I'm pretty sure perian works for online stuff too
It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.
Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt
well I'm not computer savvy enough to give a shit about the first two, but I'm pretty sure perian works for online stuff too
Yeah but for people who work in IT being able to just break out the command line is very useful, to get the same experience in OS X as I can in Linux/BSD I basically have to install a Linux/BSD userland which is annoying.
Perian doesn't work for streams because iTunes assumes they're either MP3 or AAC, so if you send it any other format it just shits its pants and won't play.
It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.
Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt
you are saying words but they don't mean anything
why can't you just be a normal person, jeez
they all mean things you wouldn't understand unless you used linux for a bit
speaking of which i've had the hankerin' for a double reformat of drives
kill my old laptop's dual-boot and make it windows only, possibly media center XP, and use it for useless shit
and revamp my current cheapo laptop as a linux box for my everyday use
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my biggest argument against macs are the first-party-hardware.
you're paying more for a brand name.
I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.
The real question you should be asking is what can you do with windows/mac that you can't do with linux because linux is free, whereas osx and windows cost money, or you have to break the law to get them for free.
The answer to that question is VERY LITTLE, however, you might have to do a lot of work and fucking around to get what you want done.
It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.
Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt
you are saying words but they don't mean anything
why can't you just be a normal person, jeez
A package manager is pretty much the best thing ever, you wouldn't understand unless you've used Ubuntu or Debian for a while. In short, instead of having to search the internet and hit up weird shareware sites and risk malware to install programs, you just open an application called "Synaptic", search for something you want like "porn" (try it Linux users, it works!), and then install it. It will automatically detect updates for you, install extra support programs you need (no more "I need version 1.3.9bb3, you only have 1.3.9bb2), and recommend plugins to improve your experience.
It also has automatic media codec installation, so instead of having to google "what plays .tta" you just open the file, you get a little prompt "you need extra software to play this, install now?", and it works perfectly.
Tech specs wise, arguments for windows machines vs. mac machines could go on forever. There's ups and downs to each.
What it boils down to for me is the freaking price. I own a 1200 dollars windows machine I built myself. I bought my wife (due to her request and ignorance) an apple that cost 2500. My machine outperforms hers in every single aspect. This means gaming, all adobe programs, media, utility, reliability, and most importantly... COST. If her machine did something wonderful, I'd say it was maybe worth the price tag.
Now quick, someone tell me that I paid twice as much for assembly because they Apple is a bunch of whores and don't sell all their individual parts. Go!
Tech specs wise, arguments for windows machines vs. mac machines could go on forever. There's ups and downs to each.
What it boils down to for me is the freaking price. I own a 1200 dollars windows machine I built myself. I bought my wife (due to her request and ignorance) an apple that cost 2500. My machine outperforms hers in every single aspect. This means gaming, all adobe programs, media, utility, reliability, and most importantly... COST. If her machine did something wonderful, I'd say it was maybe worth the price tag.
Now quick, someone tell me that I paid twice as much for assembly because they Apple is a bunch of whores and don't sell all their individual parts. Go!
my biggest argument against macs are the first-party-hardware.
you're paying more for a brand name.
I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.
I doubt I'll ever buy a Mac desktop, but their laptops are outstanding. Little details like hibernation when the lid closes, or muting the speakers when the headphone cable pops out, or a dozen other small things that never worked quite right in my Windows laptops are just there without muss nor fuss.
Just make sure not to buy upgrades (use Newegg instead), and see if you can get the computer on sale (30% off CompUSA liquidation sale fuck yeah)
Bought her a desktop. Its a last gen system, not the newest one. Not entirely sure which model, and I refuse to go check because last time I did my computer locked up. Apparently it sensed the negative energies of Apple all over me.
my biggest argument against macs are the first-party-hardware.
you're paying more for a brand name.
I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.
I doubt I'll ever buy a Mac desktop, but their laptops are outstanding. Little details like hibernation when the lid closes, or muting the speakers when the headphone cable pops out, or a dozen other small things that never worked quite right in my Windows laptops are just there without muss nor fuss.
Just make sure not to buy upgrades (use Newegg instead), and see if you can get the computer on sale (30% off CompUSA liquidation sale fuck yeah)
see, if i was gonna buy a laptop, i'd just get an EEEPC or whatever.
that will cover everything i'd ever need a laptop for.
my biggest argument against macs are the first-party-hardware.
you're paying more for a brand name.
I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.
I doubt I'll ever buy a Mac desktop, but their laptops are outstanding. Little details like hibernation when the lid closes, or muting the speakers when the headphone cable pops out, or a dozen other small things that never worked quite right in my Windows laptops are just there without muss nor fuss.
Just make sure not to buy upgrades (use Newegg instead), and see if you can get the computer on sale (30% off CompUSA liquidation sale fuck yeah)
see, if i was gonna buy a laptop, i'd just get an EEEPC or whatever.
that will cover everything i'd ever need a laptop for.
i'm pretty sure that's been in most, if not all, windows laptops for the last 4-5 years
It's the first one where it works, though. My previous laptops, in order, would:
1. Bluescreen on resume
2. Sometimes bluescreen on resume
3. Severe graphical glitches until reboot
4. Chug along at greatly reduced performance for 5-10 minutes after resume
5. No mouse until reboot
So on the mac, when I shut the lid and opened it and nothing broke it was a pretty amazing moment.
i'm pretty sure that's been in most, if not all, windows laptops for the last 4-5 years
It's the first one where it works, though. My previous laptops, in order, would:
1. Bluescreen on resume
2. Sometimes bluescreen on resume
3. Severe graphical glitches until reboot
4. Chug along at greatly reduced performance for 5-10 minutes after resume
5. No mouse until reboot
So on the mac, when I shut the lid and opened it and nothing broke it was a pretty amazing moment.
i'm pretty sure that's been in most, if not all, windows laptops for the last 4-5 years
It's the first one where it works, though. My previous laptops, in order, would:
1. Bluescreen on resume
2. Sometimes bluescreen on resume
3. Severe graphical glitches until reboot
4. Chug along at greatly reduced performance for 5-10 minutes after resume
5. No mouse until reboot
So on the mac, when I shut the lid and opened it and nothing broke it was a pretty amazing moment.
Let me guess, Toshiba laptop?
#2 and #4. #3 and #5 were compaqs, #1 was something I don't remember.
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are you saying the mac is the ferrari or the honda
otherwise mac fucking rocks.
t spooky: the F430 came out in 2004
LIAR
YOU ARE LYING
It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.
Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt.
Quicktime and iTunes don't really support anything but MP3 and AAC, you can install third-party packages but those don't work for anything except the common case of playing directly off the local drive. No streaming Vorbis from another computer for me, so I have to run my media player in a Linux virtual machine using VMWare.
I'M PUTTING TWO FINGERS ON MY MOUSE PAD AND CLICKING
AND IT'S RIGHT CLICKING
either way the kit car is cooler
I've had pretty minimal hassles with Windows. I have linux installed because I like to tweak stuff and it's easier to tweak it in Ubuntu. Also the community support is pretty rad. Chances are, if there's something you want to try, somebody has written an exhaustive step-by-step tutorial on how to do it.
well I'm not computer savvy enough to give a shit about the first two, but I'm pretty sure perian works for online stuff too
haha humour as seen on slashdot !
might as well scream DON'T BUY ME
why can't you just be a normal person, jeez
neither.
i'm saying that your analogy is flawed.
-Mikal-
comparing apples to hand grenades, as it were.
Yeah but for people who work in IT being able to just break out the command line is very useful, to get the same experience in OS X as I can in Linux/BSD I basically have to install a Linux/BSD userland which is annoying.
Perian doesn't work for streams because iTunes assumes they're either MP3 or AAC, so if you send it any other format it just shits its pants and won't play.
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they all mean things you wouldn't understand unless you used linux for a bit
speaking of which i've had the hankerin' for a double reformat of drives
kill my old laptop's dual-boot and make it windows only, possibly media center XP, and use it for useless shit
and revamp my current cheapo laptop as a linux box for my everyday use
You are dumb, I don't want to help you anymore.
you're paying more for a brand name.
I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.
The real question you should be asking is what can you do with windows/mac that you can't do with linux because linux is free, whereas osx and windows cost money, or you have to break the law to get them for free.
The answer to that question is VERY LITTLE, however, you might have to do a lot of work and fucking around to get what you want done.
-Mikal-
e tu, brutatoe?
A package manager is pretty much the best thing ever, you wouldn't understand unless you've used Ubuntu or Debian for a while. In short, instead of having to search the internet and hit up weird shareware sites and risk malware to install programs, you just open an application called "Synaptic", search for something you want like "porn" (try it Linux users, it works!), and then install it. It will automatically detect updates for you, install extra support programs you need (no more "I need version 1.3.9bb3, you only have 1.3.9bb2), and recommend plugins to improve your experience.
It also has automatic media codec installation, so instead of having to google "what plays .tta" you just open the file, you get a little prompt "you need extra software to play this, install now?", and it works perfectly.
What it boils down to for me is the freaking price. I own a 1200 dollars windows machine I built myself. I bought my wife (due to her request and ignorance) an apple that cost 2500. My machine outperforms hers in every single aspect. This means gaming, all adobe programs, media, utility, reliability, and most importantly... COST. If her machine did something wonderful, I'd say it was maybe worth the price tag.
Now quick, someone tell me that I paid twice as much for assembly because they Apple is a bunch of whores and don't sell all their individual parts. Go!
you paid for the logo.
-Mikal-
if y install linux
the main CS computer lab at school is all linux-based
and i have linux installed on one of my laptops
so
yeah
i am a sweaty neckbearded mouthbreather
I doubt I'll ever buy a Mac desktop, but their laptops are outstanding. Little details like hibernation when the lid closes, or muting the speakers when the headphone cable pops out, or a dozen other small things that never worked quite right in my Windows laptops are just there without muss nor fuss.
Just make sure not to buy upgrades (use Newegg instead), and see if you can get the computer on sale (30% off CompUSA liquidation sale fuck yeah)
see, if i was gonna buy a laptop, i'd just get an EEEPC or whatever.
that will cover everything i'd ever need a laptop for.
-Mikal-
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Yes. That is the next thing on my To Buy list.
i'm pretty sure that's been in most, if not all, windows laptops for the last 4-5 years
Work. Adobe suite mostly as she does graphic design. Which my computer does better, which leads to her using it for the larger files.
It's the first one where it works, though. My previous laptops, in order, would:
1. Bluescreen on resume
2. Sometimes bluescreen on resume
3. Severe graphical glitches until reboot
4. Chug along at greatly reduced performance for 5-10 minutes after resume
5. No mouse until reboot
So on the mac, when I shut the lid and opened it and nothing broke it was a pretty amazing moment.
Let me guess, Toshiba laptop?
Well I wouldn't call that little.
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more like really tiny.[/tiny]
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#2 and #4. #3 and #5 were compaqs, #1 was something I don't remember.