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The Linux Switch

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  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    the thing is

    other than gaming

    what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?

    in terms of functionality, how is a 2002 ferrari f430 different than a 1992 honda civic del sol?

    i mean... they both do the same thing.

    are you saying the mac is the ferrari or the honda

    Ranx on
  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    the thing is

    other than gaming

    what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?
    unless you're doing high-end 3D stuff, nothing. you make up for it with optimized versions of photoshop and video processing apps though.

    otherwise mac fucking rocks.

    t spooky: the F430 came out in 2004

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    YOU CAN'T RIGHT CLICK ON A MAC
    THAT'S GAY

    YES YOU CAN

    I'M RIGHT CLICKING RIGHT NOW

    LIAR
    YOU ARE LYING

    Lord Dave on
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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    the thing is

    other than gaming

    what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?

    It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.

    Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt.

    Quicktime and iTunes don't really support anything but MP3 and AAC, you can install third-party packages but those don't work for anything except the common case of playing directly off the local drive. No streaming Vorbis from another computer for me, so I have to run my media player in a Linux virtual machine using VMWare.

    Janin on
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  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    YOU CAN'T RIGHT CLICK ON A MAC
    THAT'S GAY

    YES YOU CAN

    I'M RIGHT CLICKING RIGHT NOW

    LIAR
    YOU ARE LYING

    I'M PUTTING TWO FINGERS ON MY MOUSE PAD AND CLICKING

    AND IT'S RIGHT CLICKING

    Ranx on
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    the thing is

    other than gaming

    what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?

    in terms of functionality, how is a 2002 ferrari f430 different than a 1992 honda civic del sol?

    i mean... they both do the same thing.

    are you saying the mac is the ferrari or the honda

    either way the kit car is cooler

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Two fingers is for fags, real men Ctrl-Click.

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  • edited July 2008
    FortyTwo wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    why the fuck would you want to go linux only?

    do you hate having free time and a simple, trouble-free computer?

    I love Linux because I get to actually use my computer instead of spending hours doing dumb system maintenance shit Windows demands.

    Am I like the only person that has not been raped in the ass by Windows? Because I simply have not experienced all of these horror stories that people keep bringing up.

    I've had pretty minimal hassles with Windows. I have linux installed because I like to tweak stuff and it's easier to tweak it in Ubuntu. Also the community support is pretty rad. Chances are, if there's something you want to try, somebody has written an exhaustive step-by-step tutorial on how to do it.

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  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    the thing is

    other than gaming

    what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?

    It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.

    Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt.

    Quicktime and iTunes don't really support anything but MP3 and AAC, you can install third-party packages but those don't work for anything except the common case of playing directly off the local drive. No streaming Vorbis from another computer for me, so I have to run my media player in a Linux virtual machine using VMWare.

    well I'm not computer savvy enough to give a shit about the first two, but I'm pretty sure perian works for online stuff too

    Ranx on
  • Little JimLittle Jim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    FortyTwo wrote: »
    linux.jpg

    haha humour as seen on slashdot !

    might as well scream DON'T BUY ME

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.

    Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt
    you are saying words but they don't mean anything

    why can't you just be a normal person, jeez

    Faricazy on
  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    yeah faricazy knows where it's at

    Ranx on
  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    the thing is

    other than gaming

    what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?

    in terms of functionality, how is a 2002 ferrari f430 different than a 1992 honda civic del sol?

    i mean... they both do the same thing.

    are you saying the mac is the ferrari or the honda

    neither.

    i'm saying that your analogy is flawed.

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
  • edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    Ranx wrote: »
    the thing is

    other than gaming

    what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?

    in terms of functionality, how is a 2002 ferrari f430 different than a 1992 honda civic del sol?

    i mean... they both do the same thing.

    are you saying the mac is the ferrari or the honda

    neither.

    i'm saying that your analogy is flawed.

    comparing apples to hand grenades, as it were.

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    well I'm not computer savvy enough to give a shit about the first two, but I'm pretty sure perian works for online stuff too

    Yeah but for people who work in IT being able to just break out the command line is very useful, to get the same experience in OS X as I can in Linux/BSD I basically have to install a Linux/BSD userland which is annoying.

    Perian doesn't work for streams because iTunes assumes they're either MP3 or AAC, so if you send it any other format it just shits its pants and won't play.

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  • CasperCasper __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    my mac has two left and two right click buttons, and a center scroll ball/button

    Casper on
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.

    Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt
    you are saying words but they don't mean anything

    why can't you just be a normal person, jeez

    they all mean things you wouldn't understand unless you used linux for a bit

    speaking of which i've had the hankerin' for a double reformat of drives

    kill my old laptop's dual-boot and make it windows only, possibly media center XP, and use it for useless shit
    and revamp my current cheapo laptop as a linux box for my everyday use

    potatoe on
  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    the thing is

    other than gaming

    what are you missing using a mac in terms of functionality?

    in terms of functionality, how is a 2002 ferrari f430 different than a 1992 honda civic del sol?

    i mean... they both do the same thing.

    You are dumb, I don't want to help you anymore.

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  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    my biggest argument against macs are the first-party-hardware.

    you're paying more for a brand name.

    I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.

    The real question you should be asking is what can you do with windows/mac that you can't do with linux because linux is free, whereas osx and windows cost money, or you have to break the law to get them for free.

    The answer to that question is VERY LITTLE, however, you might have to do a lot of work and fucking around to get what you want done.

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    they all mean things you wouldn't understand unless you used linux for a bit
    :O

    e tu, brutatoe?

    Faricazy on
  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    It doesn't have a built-in package manager, is my main complaint. This leads to third-party attempts like Fink (port of Debian's apt-get) or Darwinports (port of BSD's ports) that don't really interact well with OS X itself.

    Due to a general disregard for the command line from OS X users and Apple, the terminal emulator is almost as useless as Windows'. What I would give for gnome-terminal, or even rxvt
    you are saying words but they don't mean anything

    why can't you just be a normal person, jeez

    A package manager is pretty much the best thing ever, you wouldn't understand unless you've used Ubuntu or Debian for a while. In short, instead of having to search the internet and hit up weird shareware sites and risk malware to install programs, you just open an application called "Synaptic", search for something you want like "porn" (try it Linux users, it works!), and then install it. It will automatically detect updates for you, install extra support programs you need (no more "I need version 1.3.9bb3, you only have 1.3.9bb2), and recommend plugins to improve your experience.

    It also has automatic media codec installation, so instead of having to google "what plays .tta" you just open the file, you get a little prompt "you need extra software to play this, install now?", and it works perfectly.

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  • GalielmusGalielmus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Tech specs wise, arguments for windows machines vs. mac machines could go on forever. There's ups and downs to each.

    What it boils down to for me is the freaking price. I own a 1200 dollars windows machine I built myself. I bought my wife (due to her request and ignorance) an apple that cost 2500. My machine outperforms hers in every single aspect. This means gaming, all adobe programs, media, utility, reliability, and most importantly... COST. If her machine did something wonderful, I'd say it was maybe worth the price tag.

    Now quick, someone tell me that I paid twice as much for assembly because they Apple is a bunch of whores and don't sell all their individual parts. Go!

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  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Galielmus wrote: »
    Tech specs wise, arguments for windows machines vs. mac machines could go on forever. There's ups and downs to each.

    What it boils down to for me is the freaking price. I own a 1200 dollars windows machine I built myself. I bought my wife (due to her request and ignorance) an apple that cost 2500. My machine outperforms hers in every single aspect. This means gaming, all adobe programs, media, utility, reliability, and most importantly... COST. If her machine did something wonderful, I'd say it was maybe worth the price tag.

    Now quick, someone tell me that I paid twice as much for assembly because they Apple is a bunch of whores and don't sell all their individual parts. Go!

    you paid for the logo.

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    the test run is: are you a faggot

    if y install linux

    bongi on
  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    either you bought her a laptop (laptops are expensive, hello), or you bought her a 16 core mac pro. which your machine shouldn't outperform.

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Faricazy wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    they all mean things you wouldn't understand unless you used linux for a bit
    :O

    e tu, brutatoe?

    the main CS computer lab at school is all linux-based
    and i have linux installed on one of my laptops

    so

    yeah

    i am a sweaty neckbearded mouthbreather

    potatoe on
  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    my biggest argument against macs are the first-party-hardware.

    you're paying more for a brand name.

    I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.

    I doubt I'll ever buy a Mac desktop, but their laptops are outstanding. Little details like hibernation when the lid closes, or muting the speakers when the headphone cable pops out, or a dozen other small things that never worked quite right in my Windows laptops are just there without muss nor fuss.

    Just make sure not to buy upgrades (use Newegg instead), and see if you can get the computer on sale (30% off CompUSA liquidation sale fuck yeah)

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  • GalielmusGalielmus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Bought her a desktop. Its a last gen system, not the newest one. Not entirely sure which model, and I refuse to go check because last time I did my computer locked up. Apparently it sensed the negative energies of Apple all over me.

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  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    my biggest argument against macs are the first-party-hardware.

    you're paying more for a brand name.

    I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.

    I doubt I'll ever buy a Mac desktop, but their laptops are outstanding. Little details like hibernation when the lid closes, or muting the speakers when the headphone cable pops out, or a dozen other small things that never worked quite right in my Windows laptops are just there without muss nor fuss.

    Just make sure not to buy upgrades (use Newegg instead), and see if you can get the computer on sale (30% off CompUSA liquidation sale fuck yeah)

    see, if i was gonna buy a laptop, i'd just get an EEEPC or whatever.

    that will cover everything i'd ever need a laptop for.

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • RanxRanx Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    well what exactly does your wife need the computer for

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  • CasperCasper __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    I love my little MacBook Air. It is my favorite little travel companion.

    Casper on
  • GalielmusGalielmus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    my biggest argument against macs are the first-party-hardware.

    you're paying more for a brand name.

    I don't do this with clothes, nor will i do it with computers.

    I doubt I'll ever buy a Mac desktop, but their laptops are outstanding. Little details like hibernation when the lid closes, or muting the speakers when the headphone cable pops out, or a dozen other small things that never worked quite right in my Windows laptops are just there without muss nor fuss.

    Just make sure not to buy upgrades (use Newegg instead), and see if you can get the computer on sale (30% off CompUSA liquidation sale fuck yeah)

    see, if i was gonna buy a laptop, i'd just get an EEEPC or whatever.

    that will cover everything i'd ever need a laptop for.

    Yes. That is the next thing on my To Buy list.

    Galielmus on
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    hibernation when the lid closes?

    i'm pretty sure that's been in most, if not all, windows laptops for the last 4-5 years

    potatoe on
  • GalielmusGalielmus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ranx wrote: »
    well what exactly does your wife need the computer for

    Work. Adobe suite mostly as she does graphic design. Which my computer does better, which leads to her using it for the larger files.

    Galielmus on
  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Casper wrote: »
    I love my little MacBook Air. It is my favorite little travel companion.
    wait did your penis get shot off or something

    Faricazy on
  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    hibernation when the lid closes?

    i'm pretty sure that's been in most, if not all, windows laptops for the last 4-5 years

    It's the first one where it works, though. My previous laptops, in order, would:

    1. Bluescreen on resume
    2. Sometimes bluescreen on resume
    3. Severe graphical glitches until reboot
    4. Chug along at greatly reduced performance for 5-10 minutes after resume
    5. No mouse until reboot

    So on the mac, when I shut the lid and opened it and nothing broke it was a pretty amazing moment.

    Janin on
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  • GalielmusGalielmus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    hibernation when the lid closes?

    i'm pretty sure that's been in most, if not all, windows laptops for the last 4-5 years

    It's the first one where it works, though. My previous laptops, in order, would:

    1. Bluescreen on resume
    2. Sometimes bluescreen on resume
    3. Severe graphical glitches until reboot
    4. Chug along at greatly reduced performance for 5-10 minutes after resume
    5. No mouse until reboot

    So on the mac, when I shut the lid and opened it and nothing broke it was a pretty amazing moment.

    Let me guess, Toshiba laptop?

    Galielmus on
  • CasperCasper __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Casper wrote: »
    I love my little MacBook Air. It is my favorite little travel companion.
    wait did your penis get shot off or something

    Well I wouldn't call that little.
    [tiny]
    more like really tiny.[/tiny]

    Casper on
  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Galielmus wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    potatoe wrote: »
    hibernation when the lid closes?

    i'm pretty sure that's been in most, if not all, windows laptops for the last 4-5 years

    It's the first one where it works, though. My previous laptops, in order, would:

    1. Bluescreen on resume
    2. Sometimes bluescreen on resume
    3. Severe graphical glitches until reboot
    4. Chug along at greatly reduced performance for 5-10 minutes after resume
    5. No mouse until reboot

    So on the mac, when I shut the lid and opened it and nothing broke it was a pretty amazing moment.

    Let me guess, Toshiba laptop?

    #2 and #4. #3 and #5 were compaqs, #1 was something I don't remember.

    Janin on
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