I move to amend Azerbaijan's resolution with Canada's proposed resolution, to fill in the gaps not covered by Azerbaijan's resolution but not changing that which is covered.
Could you submit something showing exactly what you mean? (Use my rewrite as the base.)
EDIT: Agreed with Finland. If you're going to be merging proposals, you damn well better be doing a full-on rewrite. (And remember that I'm letting Azerbaijan consider all these and accept or reject as he sees fit.)
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I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT CANADA'S SOLUTION BEFORE ACCEPTING IT.
And of Finland and Monaco?
Finland's is to reduce yielding time from 12 hours to 6.
Monaco's is to allow debate and voting on two resolutions at once.
Personally, I oppose both- Finland on previously stated grounds, Monaco on the fact that apparently that has already killed one PA exercise. But I yield to Azerbaijan.
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I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT CANADA'S SOLUTION BEFORE ACCEPTING IT.
And of Finland and Monaco?
Finland's is to reduce yielding time from 12 hours to 6.
Monaco's is to allow debate and voting on two resolutions at once.
(I'm actually annoying myself by typing in caps all the time I was hoping to pass a resolution blocking me from doing it, but fuck it.)
I think the Delagates from Finland and Monaco bring acceptable changes to the table, but I would like to add the ability to extend the time of one resolution at a time (with 5 votes of course) from 6 to 8 hours.
I would like to take this time to mention that all proposals expressed herein in my loyal service to the illustrious nation of Monaco comes in tandem with an invitation for blackjack and hookers at the casino in Monte Carlo.
Finland withdrawls its previous motion and proposes the following amendment instead:
Replace sections 3 through 6 with the following:
*Parties may then yield their words to other parties as they see fit until debate closes (see below).
*At any time after the nature of debate has been agreed to, all parties with time may begin to argue using whatever time they have been allotted. Time used by a party may not be later yielded, but unused time may be so yielded.
*During arguing time, other parties may propose amendments, to be adopted or rejected by the proposing party. Other delegates may not debate them, but may express in what way, if any, the amendment will affect their vote.
*Once words (or a 12-hour period of time) has expired, voting will take place for a period of 18 hours. Majority rules.
I move to amend Azerbaijan's resolution with Canada's proposed resolution, to fill in the gaps not covered by Azerbaijan's resolution but not changing that which is covered.
Could you submit something showing exactly what you mean? (Use my rewrite as the base.)
Amendment 1:
*Voting begins when all states have used up their words or 24 hours has passed, whichever comes first. (This changes it from "reasonable amount of time" to a set time limit. 24 hours should let people from all time zones get their say in, especially after the 12 hour yield period. If 24 hours is too short, Azerbaijan is free to decline.)
Amendment 2:
*"YES" votes should be bolded in lime, and that "NO" votes should be bolded in red. (This makes votes easier to count.)
Yielding time should be decided on a case by case basis by the Secretary General (e.g. Resolution: Kittens are Cute might get a reduced yielding time, while Resolution: What to do with Israel might get an extended time).
[Spanish]Cuba is satisified with the Azerbaijan resolution and Canadian ammendments, but suggests a third ammendment be added to discourage shouting throughout an entire debate.[/Spanish]
GoslingLooking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, ProbablyWatertown, WIRegistered Userregular
edited July 2008
Okay, let's restart with the amended resolution, Resolution #1 (this is what Azerbaijan has currently consented to):
*Anyone may submit a resolution, which then must be seconded by five people. First to five is the one we work on.
*Up to two resolutions may be debated at a time.
*Once the nature of debate is agreed to, directly affected parties are alloted 300 words to state their case, and all other parties 100 words.
*Parties may then yield their words to other parties as they see fit for a period of 6 hours. No actual debate may take place during this time.
*With a five-vote consent, yielding time may be extended on one of the two resolutions from 6 to 8 hours.
*After the yielding period has ended, all parties with time may begin to argue using whatever time they have been allotted.
*During arguing time, other parties may propose amendments, to be adopted or rejected by the proposing party. Other delegates may not debate them, but may express in what way, if any, the amendment will affect their vote.
*Once words (or a reasonable period of time) has expired, voting will take place for a period of 18 hours. Majority rules.
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I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
UN General Assembly
Sponsors: UK, Taiwan, Canada
Signatories:
Topic: Lack of dance offs within this representative body
There is a lack of dance offs within this body, therefore this resolution puts forward three main parts.
1. The representatives from the Republic of China and the Peoples Republic of China shall have a dance off
2. The Judges of this dance off shall be the United Kingdom, the United States, North Korea, Canada, and Iran.
3. That future problems can, and will, be dealt with in a similar manner.
UN General Assembly
Sponsors: UK, Taiwan, Canada
Signatories:
Topic: Lack of dance offs within this representative body
There is a lack of dance offs within this body, therefore this resolution puts forward three main parts.
1. The representatives from the Republic of China and the Peoples Republic of China shall have a dance off
2. The Judges of this dance off shall be the United Kingdom, the United States, North Korea, Canada, and Iran.
3. That future problems can, and will, be dealt with in a similar manner.
hear hear!
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AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
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GoslingLooking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, ProbablyWatertown, WIRegistered Userregular
explanation: why does yielding time need to be separate from the debate proper? It seems like an unnecessary procedural hold-up.
I prefer it's separate because remember I'm the guy running this thing and I'd prefer I not get run ragged by 62 people to the point where I throw up my hands and say fuck this shit. Please to be considerate towards your Secretary General who is not a robot.
I already am getting a tad swamped by all the amendments.
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I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
I object on the grounds that it is difficult to express a dance-off in 200 words or less.
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GoslingLooking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, ProbablyWatertown, WIRegistered Userregular
edited July 2008
For now? We're only working on Resolution #1. I'm not going to recognize any other proposal until work on Resolution #1 is completed. After that, we'll work on 2 and 3. I want to make sure we can at least get a single resolution done and over with before we try any advanced maneuvers.
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I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
explanation: why does yielding time need to be separate from the debate proper? It seems like an unnecessary procedural hold-up.
I prefer it's separate because remember I'm the guy running this thing and I'd prefer I not get run ragged by 62 people to the point where I throw up my hands and say fuck this shit. Please to be considerate towards your Secretary General who is not a robot.
I already am getting a tad swamped by all the amendments.
To be fair, future amendments should be easier because right now we're deciding the rules with which we yield, debate, amend, and vote by.
In the interest of recognizing our humble and modest Secretary General's fleshy, meat covered existence, and lack of automaton-ness, I suggest that, in the interest of calming a torrent of amendments he post the following picture to express a desire for a period of calm for no less than 10 minutes.
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GoslingLooking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, ProbablyWatertown, WIRegistered Userregular
edited July 2008
Okay, the amendments I count are:
CANADA
Amendment 1:
*Voting begins when all states have used up their words or 24 hours has passed, whichever comes first. (This changes it from "reasonable amount of time" to a set time limit. 24 hours should let people from all time zones get their say in, especially after the 12 hour yield period. If 24 hours is too short, Azerbaijan is free to decline.)
Amendment 2:
*"YES" votes should be bolded in lime, and that "NO" votes should be bolded in red. (This makes votes easier to count.)
RUSSIA
Yielding time should be decided on a case by case basis by the Secretary General (e.g. Resolution: Kittens are Cute might get a reduced yielding time, while Resolution: What to do with Israel might get an extended time).
Azerbaijan, your call.
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I have a new soccer blog The Minnow Tank. Reading it psychically kicks Sepp Blatter in the bean bag.
UN General Assembly
Sponsors: UK, Taiwan, Canada
Signatories:
Topic: Lack of dance offs within this representative body
There is a lack of dance offs within this body, therefore this resolution puts forward three main parts.
1. The representatives from the Republic of China and the Peoples Republic of China shall have a dance off
2. The Judges of this dance off shall be the United Kingdom, the United States, North Korea, Canada, and Iran.
3. That future problems can, and will, be dealt with in a similar manner.
North Korea supports this resolution, although it notes that nothing present in the dance offs can compare to the divine grooviness of Kim Jong Il's dance moves.
The Representative from Jamaica moves that the amendment upping the number of debated resolutions from one to two be struck from the resolution, in the belief that two proposals may cause too much clutter and stress, as well as interfering with the vibrations of the room.
Jamaica supports all other amendments to the resolution.
Argentina moves that the Dance Off shall include the tango.
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edited July 2008
Brazil supports an amendment to increase the number of simultaneous resolutions under consideration to 5, so that the delegation doesn't have to wait several days before something interesting happens.
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EDIT: Agreed with Finland. If you're going to be merging proposals, you damn well better be doing a full-on rewrite. (And remember that I'm letting Azerbaijan consider all these and accept or reject as he sees fit.)
She would also like to note that the resolution proposed by Canada is also agreeable if it makes it into the agenda.
Finland's is to reduce yielding time from 12 hours to 6.
Monaco's is to allow debate and voting on two resolutions at once.
Personally, I oppose both- Finland on previously stated grounds, Monaco on the fact that apparently that has already killed one PA exercise. But I yield to Azerbaijan.
I think the Delagates from Finland and Monaco bring acceptable changes to the table, but I would like to add the ability to extend the time of one resolution at a time (with 5 votes of course) from 6 to 8 hours.
Finland withdrawls its previous motion and proposes the following amendment instead:
Replace sections 3 through 6 with the following:
*Parties may then yield their words to other parties as they see fit until debate closes (see below).
*At any time after the nature of debate has been agreed to, all parties with time may begin to argue using whatever time they have been allotted. Time used by a party may not be later yielded, but unused time may be so yielded.
*During arguing time, other parties may propose amendments, to be adopted or rejected by the proposing party. Other delegates may not debate them, but may express in what way, if any, the amendment will affect their vote.
*Once words (or a 12-hour period of time) has expired, voting will take place for a period of 18 hours. Majority rules.
Amendment 1:
*Voting begins when all states have used up their words or 24 hours has passed, whichever comes first. (This changes it from "reasonable amount of time" to a set time limit. 24 hours should let people from all time zones get their say in, especially after the 12 hour yield period. If 24 hours is too short, Azerbaijan is free to decline.)
Amendment 2:
*"YES" votes should be bolded in lime, and that "NO" votes should be bolded in red. (This makes votes easier to count.)
to Azerbaijan's proposal
Yielding time should be decided on a case by case basis by the Secretary General (e.g. Resolution: Kittens are Cute might get a reduced yielding time, while Resolution: What to do with Israel might get an extended time).
*Anyone may submit a resolution, which then must be seconded by five people. First to five is the one we work on.
*Up to two resolutions may be debated at a time.
*Once the nature of debate is agreed to, directly affected parties are alloted 300 words to state their case, and all other parties 100 words.
*Parties may then yield their words to other parties as they see fit for a period of 6 hours. No actual debate may take place during this time.
*With a five-vote consent, yielding time may be extended on one of the two resolutions from 6 to 8 hours.
*After the yielding period has ended, all parties with time may begin to argue using whatever time they have been allotted.
*During arguing time, other parties may propose amendments, to be adopted or rejected by the proposing party. Other delegates may not debate them, but may express in what way, if any, the amendment will affect their vote.
*Once words (or a reasonable period of time) has expired, voting will take place for a period of 18 hours. Majority rules.
UN General Assembly
Sponsors: UK, Taiwan, Canada
Signatories:
Topic: Lack of dance offs within this representative body
There is a lack of dance offs within this body, therefore this resolution puts forward three main parts.
1. The representatives from the Republic of China and the Peoples Republic of China shall have a dance off
2. The Judges of this dance off shall be the United Kingdom, the United States, North Korea, Canada, and Iran.
3. That future problems can, and will, be dealt with in a similar manner.
hear hear!
I already am getting a tad swamped by all the amendments.
To be fair, future amendments should be easier because right now we're deciding the rules with which we yield, debate, amend, and vote by.
And they should be the only thing to be put inside spoilers.
CANADA
Amendment 1:
*Voting begins when all states have used up their words or 24 hours has passed, whichever comes first. (This changes it from "reasonable amount of time" to a set time limit. 24 hours should let people from all time zones get their say in, especially after the 12 hour yield period. If 24 hours is too short, Azerbaijan is free to decline.)
Amendment 2:
*"YES" votes should be bolded in lime, and that "NO" votes should be bolded in red. (This makes votes easier to count.)
RUSSIA
Yielding time should be decided on a case by case basis by the Secretary General (e.g. Resolution: Kittens are Cute might get a reduced yielding time, while Resolution: What to do with Israel might get an extended time).
Azerbaijan, your call.
North Korea supports this resolution, although it notes that nothing present in the dance offs can compare to the divine grooviness of Kim Jong Il's dance moves.
Jamaica supports all other amendments to the resolution.
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