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Does anyone game on an HD-CRT TV?
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Didn't know where to put this, so what the heck, might as well make a thread.
There are HD capable (usually 1080i) CRT's out there and I am curious the picture quality whilst playing a 360 or whatever on.
I know it's not the usual 720p resolution, nor is it an LCD but the thought of a 34 inch CRT that can do HD resolutions is quite tempting, as I don't care about the huge amount of space they take up compared to LCD's.
So does anyone do this? Do you have any screenshots?
There are HD capable (usually 1080i) CRT's out there and I am curious the picture quality whilst playing a 360 or whatever on.
I know it's not the usual 720p resolution, nor is it an LCD but the thought of a 34 inch CRT that can do HD resolutions is quite tempting, as I don't care about the huge amount of space they take up compared to LCD's.
So does anyone do this? Do you have any screenshots?
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although when I moved it was helpful that my roommate has a 28-foot trailer.
*edit* sorry, component. It also has a DVI port which when I finally get my surround sound speakers set up I can use with a HDMI adapter
pros:
It's thirty inches.
It's 1080i.
It cost me two hundred dollars.
cons:
geometry is never as straight as an LCD
it weighs more than I do.
no, seriously, I had to lift this two hundred someodd pound fucker up a flight of stairs.
edit: Basticle I hope you mean "component".
...... 4:3 ....so its not HD ?
Stairs beat wheels, in much the same way that rock beats scissors.
Really, there are awesome deals on used HD CRTs. Everybody wants to upgrade to something flatter.
No it is. Goes to 1080i but lacks 720p. It's just not in a widescreen format.
Personally, I use an FW900 24" Wide Screen (16:10) Sony Trinitron Monitor. No cut edges at all and the geometry is about as good as you can get on a CRT. They don't make these anymore but you can find them online for between 300 to 1000 bucks depending on condition. accurateit.com is where I got mines, (cost 500 USD incl shipping)
You can get those on EBAY for like $100.
Yeah like literally!
Yeah, but I'm allergic to being ripped off.
I play through a 22" lcd monitor now, but just want a different experience and the cheap-ness of these caught my eye, since I need a tv anyway.
I'm thinking like these:
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/ele/758553424.html
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/ele/758919186.html
http://toronto.en.craigslist.ca/tor/ele/753782360.html
I would still like to see one in action, though.
It doesn't do widescreen either.
I really love the PQ of a tube. There is a slight overscan, depending on the set, and you might have to mess around with the service menus to get the geometry right, but it looks really great.
http://www.fubarduck.com/hdtv-lag-faq/
most high-def CRTs will have some deinterlacing hardware for SD signals, so you still have lag.
However, HD signals in the set's native resolution(s) (almost always 480p and 1080i) will have no lag, in theory.
the largest ever was a 40" with 4:3 ratio. Sony made a few, maybe some others.
I am currently looking to buy said 40" or the top of the line best 34" wide Sony ever made.
this is correct. CRTs that have multiple native resolutions are awesome, because my Wii can look good and my 360 can look good on the same TV.
CRTs are wonderful things in that the picture is generated by an electron beam moving across a cathode tube. As such it can be in 480p, native, some of the time (well, usually it'll actually be 540p with blank space on the extra lines that you don't see because of overscan anyway) and be in 1080i native some other times.
oh...er...I have a CRT rear projection set, which is what I thought we were talking about....
in retrospect I'm probably the only one whow as talking about a rear projection CRT set....I feel stupid.
If you don't mind the bulk and weight, CRT is still a great display technology. AFAIK, it just has fewer inherent problems than LCD, plasma, or DLP
The step up from component/analog to HDMI/digital doesn't *seem* as drastic as it does on an LCD screen though.... it wasn't nearly as noticeable on my set as on the in-laws LCD at least
Agreed. The big advantage for me was that I could use another port on my TV, and as someone else on this forum mentioned, one fucking cable.
We love our TV... a 30" Samsung CRT HDTV. We wish it had more inputs (only 2 component and 1 HDMI, though there are a couple of AV/S-Video ports), but other than that, the thing is great.
Speaking of, I'd love to hook my PS3 up via HDMI as well (got the HD-DVD player plugged in right now). Are there any good HDMI switchboxes out there?
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
Don't feel bad, I'm in the same boat as you. I game on 55" RP-CRT (Mitsubishi WS 55-513 to be exact) and it is easily the greatest monitor/TV I've ever owned.
I've had it ISF calibrated as well so it's an amazing all around display (games, movies, computer, you name it, it does it and does it well). The black levels especially kick the shit out of any LCD or Plasma I've seen.
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But video games and movies look great. I just can't use it as a computer monitor very well.
Wow after reading that, I don't understand how anyone could even tolerate an LCD. Then again those are extreme examples in most cases.
Still makes me wonder why CRT tech isn't being developed further, or better yet why we haven't seen SED displays hit the market. (Last I heard SED was caught up in some legal nonsense)
Oh, it definitely is available. It would be embarassingly cheap to do on a mass scale too, but TV manufacturers just don't care. To be fair I can kind of understand why, I doubt they're willing to cut into profit margins to appease the tiny percentage of their market that finds the input lag in SFII:Turbo completely intolerable through their SNES on s-video (which it is on my LCD, for the record).
There's always external deinterlacers like the iscan VP20, but they will probably end up costing you more than the TV, since they dont get produced on a mass scale and the manufacturer basically knows they're catering to enthusiasts who'll pay silly money, similar to audiophiles.
EDIT: also, its pretty much common knowledge that CRTs produce a much richer and more stable picture than LCDs. No graphic designer worth his salt would go near an LCD, and pretty much all the top SFX companies use CRTs. Good luck getting a 40" CRT into your house, though.
I know everyone likes LCD's these days but I really miss CRT's. I hear they're also better on power consumption (which surprised me.)
I've had one guy pm me a little vid which was cool - I'd like to see more!
I've an associate that has an [strike]LG[/strike] (oops) Toshiba widescreen HDTV, watched some of that Planet Earth or whatnot series on it, as well as a bit if Halo 3/Gears of War on his Xbox. Fantastic picture.
If space isn't your top concern, and you are or know a few burly guys, tubes are still worth it for gaming enthusiasts, especially since you can now snipe them off Craigslist for peanuts as the masses scramble to buy LCD TVs. $200 (and most likely better speakers) with proper support for older systems and better color vs $800 for what, to keep up with the Joneses?
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