Also, what mob corpses have people had good outcomes from eating? The Wiki only has a short list of Horses, Puttis(charisma), rabbit tails(luck) and quicklings. I've also gained Will from eating hermit crabs.
Eat chess piece guys for mad strength gains, chaos eyes for sanity points and shiny hedgehogs and wisps for free levels. The previous sentence may be a lie.
Giants and those hand guys for strengths, trolls/ogres for constitution, casting mobs for magical stuffs. Oh and certain mobs give resistances like spiders or fire hounds and stuff. Just eat everything like I do.
Fruits also increase certain stats, and I know for certain some blessed herbs give guaranteed gains in two stats.
While suspicious of everything you just said, thank you and perhaps I'll become a little more adventurous in my dining.
The second phase of the main quest can go fuck itself, I hit level 6 or 7 and all of a sudden I open a door thats filled with about 20 Wizards of Elea, i knew i was fucked but..hey what the hell, I slash the first one, about half of them cast magic something or other at me and boom, -100 hitpoints. My little girl and infantrymen also went down in that first volley of death
The second phase of the main quest can go fuck itself, I hit level 6 or 7 and all of a sudden I open a door thats filled with about 20 Wizards of Elea, i knew i was fucked but..hey what the hell, I slash the first one, about half of them cast magic something or other at me and boom, -100 hitpoints. My little girl and infantrymen also went down in that first volley of death
Precisely what happened to me there, I came back and picked them off as they came into view with magic dart, silence potions, and shurikens. It was an old fashioned shoot out.
So..anyone have any idea wtf "your nerve is damaged" does? its in purple..which is bad...I think..byut...It doesn't appear to have done anything to me..and it was followed by "Suddenly, your mind becomes very clear. Your stomach is unbelievably full"
God dammit. If theres one thing that has killed me more than starvation its Mutants. The worst thing is they look like normal dudes right up until they one shot you for not paying attention.
My female dwarven claymore is kinda funny lookin:
Protip: If the innkeeper is sleeping during etherwind just bash him in the face immediately instead of waiting around for a bit to see if he'll wake up (the sores and debilitation are etherwind disease).
I think I grew feathers from wearing the feather item all the time. Not sure how I got poisonous hands.
I started playing this the other day thanks to this thread. I'm having a great time so far but I've got a couple questions. Any answers would be most appreciated.
1. What sort of things should I take into consideration when choosing equipment to not lower my chance to successfully cast spells? I figured after some experimentation it was all armor that's not light and some weapons. I've stuck with wakizashis and recently upgraded to a Metal Wakizashi of Lightning from my old Scalework one. In addition to weighing .4 more, it has one more damage dice. Is my casting worse because its metal or is it some sort of weight thing?
2. I died recently while holding the cooler I got from saving the puppy in a stupid mishap. Naturally the cooler disappeared, I'm pretty sure it happened while I was inside a world map square so I'm not sure I can recover it. Can I get another one or am I boned?
3. Merchants I deal with often are all annoyed at me for some reason. Does this effect the prices they give me and is there a way to get them back to normal?
4. I find things that look like CDs, usually BGM #something or other or playback disks. What are these for?
5. I'm currently playing a warmage (my second dude, thought a hybrid might be an easy way to go boy was I wrong) and I learned early that if I wanted my magic to be effective at all I had to wear light armor making me a wizard who is pretty good at wearing heavier armors and stabbing people but rarely does. The help file on armor says with high skill you can learn to cast better in heavy armor. Anyone know if you can ever get a decent success rate with high skill in medium or heavy armor or is it a waste of time and should I just stick to light?
2. I died recently while holding the cooler I got from saving the puppy in a stupid mishap. Naturally the cooler disappeared, I'm pretty sure it happened while I was inside a world map square so I'm not sure I can recover it. Can I get another one or am I boned?
If you're absolutely sure you lost it on the world map and remember the area you lost it at, you can go there and there may be a bag icon on the map for you to go to and (g)et your items.
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- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
I started playing this the other day thanks to this thread. I'm having a great time so far but I've got a couple questions. Any answers would be most appreciated.
1. What sort of things should I take into consideration when choosing equipment to not lower my chance to successfully cast spells? I figured after some experimentation it was all armor that's not light and some weapons. I've stuck with wakizashis and recently upgraded to a Metal Wakizashi of Lightning from my old Scalework one. In addition to weighing .4 more, it has one more damage dice. Is my casting worse because its metal or is it some sort of weight thing?
2. I died recently while holding the cooler I got from saving the puppy in a stupid mishap. Naturally the cooler disappeared, I'm pretty sure it happened while I was inside a world map square so I'm not sure I can recover it. Can I get another one or am I boned?
3. Merchants I deal with often are all annoyed at me for some reason. Does this effect the prices they give me and is there a way to get them back to normal?
4. I find things that look like CDs, usually BGM #something or other or playback disks. What are these for?
5. I'm currently playing a warmage (my second dude, thought a hybrid might be an easy way to go boy was I wrong) and I learned early that if I wanted my magic to be effective at all I had to wear light armor making me a wizard who is pretty good at wearing heavier armors and stabbing people but rarely does. The help file on armor says with high skill you can learn to cast better in heavy armor. Anyone know if you can ever get a decent success rate with high skill in medium or heavy armor or is it a waste of time and should I just stick to light?
Thanks in advance.
1 + 5) It's based on your armor skills. You can see the total weight of your gear plus what armor skill it's using under Extra Info in the character screen.
2) Read on the official forums that they're rare like all the artifacts.
3) Yep, and you need to have high charisma in order to increase their relations towards you.
4) The BGM ones are for music, use them to change the music to whatever is on the disc. The playback discs plays back cut scenes you've unlocked, like the intro.
On another note, I love my skeleton key. It's an artifact I looted off of an adventurer NPC. I can open level level 34 gamble chests with my 16 lockpicking and the skeleton key. And I couldn't before! They also contained 50k! Each! I had two!
On another note, I love my skeleton key. It's an artifact I looted off of an adventurer NPC. I can open level level 34 gamble chests with my 16 lockpicking and the skeleton key. And I couldn't before! They also contained 50k! Each! I had two!
You bastard! I haven't made enemies with any of the adventurers yet.
Shopkeepers and charisma are supposedly fucked right now, at least i've seen a few reports on their forums about shopkeepers hating people with 150+ charisma, and their like continuing to go down when talked to.
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edited July 2008
Alright, I did it: I installed and played it last night. My biggest fears (the controls) turned out to be a non-issue. But damn if the game isn't fucking hard.
I rolled a dude, at the cursed corpse...
Re-rolled, got those elves out of my house, went to the first town. Got a quest from near the big piano, found some stairs near the inn, went down them, and the ownage from the grey and red slimes began.
Killing Putits is easy, killing Red Putits is easy, but killing Slimes is a fucking nightmare. Luckily, there's a long, narrow hallway in which these vile abominations spawn.
First, get a ranged weapon and ammo. I had a glass laser gun, but anything will suffice. When you happen to be in that corridor, move towards the putits, but DO NOT ATTACK THEM. Putits are terrible fighters, so make sure you have at least 3-4 in front of you, and slowly make your way through them. When you see a slime, immediately target it and shoot it. While the damage might seem negligible, slimes often spew acid when attacked. The point is to melt these fuckers in their own drool. You will complete this quest safely and get some extra points in Evasion. (Leave your pet in town.)
There is also a Bubble monster in that last room. If you're lucky, it'll get killed by the acid. Alternatively, shoot it from afar.
One other thing to note about the Putit dungeon is that it is a dungeon. Take what you find, even furniture. Better yet, take all the trash from Your Home and leave it inside the dungeon in the very first room (which is safe even for a snail tourist). You'll have fast access to a reliable storage early in the game, right inside the town. You'll be scoring PP's left and right.
When you see a slime, immediately target it and shoot it
Hmm, how do you do the manual targetting thing? I just started my first archer today, and I'm just madly shooting everything on the screen. Can you just click on stuff? or, maybe I should look in '?", Imagine there's something there .
And I just love random millionaires giving me money. I think I got 4k in only a couple minutes, just randomly.
And I think someone mentioned something about negative karma, and not knowing why. It is possibly from looting adventurers in dungeons. You get +karma for burying the and -karma for looting.
Oh, and what does a "rare treasure ball" do? I've gotten a couple from the treasure machines in Palmia.
I also played a bunch of Blackjack. That was kinda fun, got some nice stuffs from winning a bunch of hands in a row.
Also, for the guy who keeps getting his stuff cursed in his dreams, unequip everything before you sleep. It's sort of annoying but it keeps stuff from being dream cursed.
Yep, found that. And proceeded to try killing putits and slimes.
Killed two of the slimes, then killed one too many putits and had a slime in my face. Run away, run away!
Oh well, I'll try it again with the next char. Or if I get this one high enough.
In better news, I had a pair of named boots show up in my salary trunk. They give me knowledge of anatomy, whatever that means.
Is the anvil just a decoration or is there some sort of blacksmithing skill in the game?
I have found tailoring kits, gemcutter and carpenters tools so far.
You can make scrolls of identify with the gemcutter . Provided you have the proper stuff anyway.
Does everyone else gather materials all the time? They don't take up weight that I can see, and you get things like casino ships and foreign currency.
Gathering and carrying around yelling madmen is kinda funny though .
You'll have fast access to a reliable storage early in the game, right inside the town. You'll be scoring PP's left and right.
Note: Having Magic Dart helps.
"Scoring PPs?" What?
Platinum Pieces
******** On another note entirely - my stupid Question time.
1. That bell creature that you run across all over - *ring* *ring* wtf is it and do you kill it? Try to capture it? It always disappears on me before I can kill it.
2. I keep hearing Horse Hooves or some such thing...is it worth noting?
3. Crafting Materials - I grab all the ones I come across but have YET to have enough materials to actually make anything. Granted I'm only Lvl 7 now but one would think I could at least make something by now.
4. Weight Training? I got this skill but it is really Creeping up and not really doing much.. anyway to do this better? I fill myself up to Overburdened(Usually Burdened due to Armor) and walk all over the place and yet it's still only 2.230(started at 1.00)
5. Harvesting Quests - the time limit is it Real world time or In game time? I have 23 Strength and I start picking and next thing I know I'm out of time and failed quest. If it's in game time how does one tell how much time is left/passing?
6. Skill Potential The (102%) thing - would someone explain that to me as if I were a 2 year old?
So is there a trick to leashing up animals? I assume I just use it on them?
I had and then immediately lost a leash, same with a monster ball. Any monsters to look out for as good bets?
I wanted to leash a cat last night. I was killing bears and hands, and one bear turned and ran after being injured. A stray dungeon cat suddenly ran at it and finished it off. I tried to give it a dead fish as a reward, but it refused. I wanted to take the little guy home after that.
And... and how does having a random dungeon storage room help with that?
I figured he meant that there are enough "I want ___" quests which are really typical objects, empty bowls or tightropes or such, that you wouldn't necessarily carry around or be able to find within 2 days, even though they're not worth much. Dump a ton of that kind of thing into a static dungeon and just keep an eye out for an easy reward when those appear on the board.
Dump a ton of that kind of thing into a static dungeon and just keep an eye out for an easy reward when those appear on the board.
Yeah, a bunch of the "I Want!" quests can be for things like junk stones, bone fragments, garbage or other random crap. Just have it on hand, and poof, instant plat.
Or, if you have a bunch of random junk on hand, you can use it to trade for the actual item from the NPC.
As it is, I will usually ransack the putit and bandit static dungeons for stuff to trade for the I Want! quests, if I can't get the actual item.
And the Negotiation skill is great. Price of individual IDs is down to 333 for me, woo. That's also with eating like three putit corpses too, so charisma is up a bit too.
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edited July 2008
I just captured a Yeek and spent a while using my stash of monster balls to splice other monsters into him, so he's a beast. And with the riding skill, we're pretty much unstoppable, me sitting on top of this horribly mutated gibbering little fucker with a spear. I love this game.
There´s also the exorcist feat, which at least prevents stuff from being doomed while you sleep. Not sure if they can still be cursed, though.
And there are potions of cure mutation Valkun, though good luck with finding one. I think I got one of those randomly as a quest reward.
I find stacks of multiple cure mutation potions in magic shops all the time. And they're not even all that expensive.
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The (potential) of skills is what is raised when you train it. The percentage is basically the amount of experience points for a skill you get when you do an action. Say the base XP for swinging a longsword is .01. Having 100% potential would mean one swing would take you from 2.00 to 2.01. 200% would take you to 2.02.
So is there a trick to leashing up animals? I assume I just use it on them?
I had and then immediately lost a leash, same with a monster ball. Any monsters to look out for as good bets?
I wanted to leash a cat last night. I was killing bears and hands, and one bear turned and ran after being injured. A stray dungeon cat suddenly ran at it and finished it off. I tried to give it a dead fish as a reward, but it refused. I wanted to take the little guy home after that.
The leash isn't used to tame creatures. You use it on an existing pet to make it teleport back to you when it runs off screen. Similarly, you use a stethoscope on a pet to make it display a health bar. You can then drop the items back in storage, the effects are permanent even if either of you die.
So, I took out a boss monster at the bottom of a danger level 1 dungeon. I tell you, I did not expect an orc to have a breath weapon and paralyzing attack. It killed my little girl, possibly some of the other monsters, and almost killed me. When I looted it, I found out why it was so deadly: I had a halberd that "did nerve damage" (paralysis) and invoked a paralyzing breath attack. I promptly started using it once I fully ID'd it, so every now and then I'll paralyze an enemy or spit out a cone of paralysis in combat. I get the feeling I should be careful with this in town.
A good thing to know is material types have inherent bonuses when you use items made out of them. Glass for example increases your speed and defense value but reduces protection and weight. With a mostly full set of glass armor my wizard had a speed of 133 when unburdened.
Ok, by now I'm sure everyone has had their final laughs at the alias picking, but I thought I should jump on and share my most recent pick of "Oral Friendship". I look at it and get all giggly.
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It would appear there ain't no rest for the wicked...who knew?
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
edited July 2008
is there any place where you reliably buy monster balls? alternatively, any way to quickly raise your gene engineer skill? The only way I can think of is constant trips to Derphy to buy slaves and then back to your house to splice them, is there a town that trains them?
is there any place where you reliably buy monster balls? alternatively, any way to quickly raise your gene engineer skill? The only way I can think of is constant trips to Derphy to buy slaves and then back to your house to splice them, is there a town that trains them?
You could save up for a ranch and breed low level pets there. Much splice-fuel to be had!
Note the bag next to me, yes, this was the second time it sent me to that godawful room.
There was no exit, I had to mine my way back into that room and kill them all at the choke point.
Luckily, when the bears tore me limb from limb the second time, I dropped the stupid fucking claymore.
I found a room like that full of orcs, and another full of dogs. Luckily, both weren't right next to the stairs, so I was able to easily slaughter them with my blessed machinegun.
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While suspicious of everything you just said, thank you and perhaps I'll become a little more adventurous in my dining.
Precisely what happened to me there, I came back and picked them off as they came into view with magic dart, silence potions, and shurikens. It was an old fashioned shoot out.
My female dwarven claymore is kinda funny lookin:
Protip: If the innkeeper is sleeping during etherwind just bash him in the face immediately instead of waiting around for a bit to see if he'll wake up (the sores and debilitation are etherwind disease).
I think I grew feathers from wearing the feather item all the time. Not sure how I got poisonous hands.
1. What sort of things should I take into consideration when choosing equipment to not lower my chance to successfully cast spells? I figured after some experimentation it was all armor that's not light and some weapons. I've stuck with wakizashis and recently upgraded to a Metal Wakizashi of Lightning from my old Scalework one. In addition to weighing .4 more, it has one more damage dice. Is my casting worse because its metal or is it some sort of weight thing?
2. I died recently while holding the cooler I got from saving the puppy in a stupid mishap. Naturally the cooler disappeared, I'm pretty sure it happened while I was inside a world map square so I'm not sure I can recover it. Can I get another one or am I boned?
3. Merchants I deal with often are all annoyed at me for some reason. Does this effect the prices they give me and is there a way to get them back to normal?
4. I find things that look like CDs, usually BGM #something or other or playback disks. What are these for?
5. I'm currently playing a warmage (my second dude, thought a hybrid might be an easy way to go boy was I wrong) and I learned early that if I wanted my magic to be effective at all I had to wear light armor making me a wizard who is pretty good at wearing heavier armors and stabbing people but rarely does. The help file on armor says with high skill you can learn to cast better in heavy armor. Anyone know if you can ever get a decent success rate with high skill in medium or heavy armor or is it a waste of time and should I just stick to light?
Thanks in advance.
If you're absolutely sure you lost it on the world map and remember the area you lost it at, you can go there and there may be a bag icon on the map for you to go to and (g)et your items.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
1 + 5) It's based on your armor skills. You can see the total weight of your gear plus what armor skill it's using under Extra Info in the character screen.
2) Read on the official forums that they're rare like all the artifacts.
3) Yep, and you need to have high charisma in order to increase their relations towards you.
4) The BGM ones are for music, use them to change the music to whatever is on the disc. The playback discs plays back cut scenes you've unlocked, like the intro.
On another note, I love my skeleton key. It's an artifact I looted off of an adventurer NPC. I can open level level 34 gamble chests with my 16 lockpicking and the skeleton key. And I couldn't before! They also contained 50k! Each! I had two!
You bastard! I haven't made enemies with any of the adventurers yet.
I rolled a dude, at the cursed corpse...
Re-rolled, got those elves out of my house, went to the first town. Got a quest from near the big piano, found some stairs near the inn, went down them, and the ownage from the grey and red slimes began.
Is this normal? I feel so lost...
Killing Putits is easy, killing Red Putits is easy, but killing Slimes is a fucking nightmare. Luckily, there's a long, narrow hallway in which these vile abominations spawn.
First, get a ranged weapon and ammo. I had a glass laser gun, but anything will suffice. When you happen to be in that corridor, move towards the putits, but DO NOT ATTACK THEM. Putits are terrible fighters, so make sure you have at least 3-4 in front of you, and slowly make your way through them. When you see a slime, immediately target it and shoot it. While the damage might seem negligible, slimes often spew acid when attacked. The point is to melt these fuckers in their own drool. You will complete this quest safely and get some extra points in Evasion. (Leave your pet in town.)
There is also a Bubble monster in that last room. If you're lucky, it'll get killed by the acid. Alternatively, shoot it from afar.
One other thing to note about the Putit dungeon is that it is a dungeon. Take what you find, even furniture. Better yet, take all the trash from Your Home and leave it inside the dungeon in the very first room (which is safe even for a snail tourist). You'll have fast access to a reliable storage early in the game, right inside the town. You'll be scoring PP's left and right.
Note: Having Magic Dart helps.
Hmm, how do you do the manual targetting thing? I just started my first archer today, and I'm just madly shooting everything on the screen. Can you just click on stuff? or, maybe I should look in '?", Imagine there's something there
And I just love random millionaires giving me money. I think I got 4k in only a couple minutes, just randomly.
And I think someone mentioned something about negative karma, and not knowing why. It is possibly from looting adventurers in dungeons. You get +karma for burying the and -karma for looting.
Oh, and what does a "rare treasure ball" do? I've gotten a couple from the treasure machines in Palmia.
I also played a bunch of Blackjack. That was kinda fun, got some nice stuffs from winning a bunch of hands in a row.
Also, for the guy who keeps getting his stuff cursed in his dreams, unequip everything before you sleep. It's sort of annoying but it keeps stuff from being dream cursed.
Is there any method in the game to remove mutations like you can with disease?
Is the anvil just a decoration or is there some sort of blacksmithing skill in the game?
And there are potions of cure mutation Valkun, though good luck with finding one. I think I got one of those randomly as a quest reward.
Yep, found that. And proceeded to try killing putits and slimes.
Killed two of the slimes, then killed one too many putits and had a slime in my face. Run away, run away!
Oh well, I'll try it again with the next char. Or if I get this one high enough.
In better news, I had a pair of named boots show up in my salary trunk. They give me knowledge of anatomy, whatever that means.
I have found tailoring kits, gemcutter and carpenters tools so far.
You can make scrolls of identify with the gemcutter
Does everyone else gather materials all the time? They don't take up weight that I can see, and you get things like casino ships and foreign currency.
Gathering and carrying around yelling madmen is kinda funny though
"Scoring PPs?" What?
Platinum Pieces
******** On another note entirely - my stupid Question time.
1. That bell creature that you run across all over - *ring* *ring* wtf is it and do you kill it? Try to capture it? It always disappears on me before I can kill it.
2. I keep hearing Horse Hooves or some such thing...is it worth noting?
3. Crafting Materials - I grab all the ones I come across but have YET to have enough materials to actually make anything. Granted I'm only Lvl 7 now but one would think I could at least make something by now.
4. Weight Training? I got this skill but it is really Creeping up and not really doing much.. anyway to do this better? I fill myself up to Overburdened(Usually Burdened due to Armor) and walk all over the place and yet it's still only 2.230(started at 1.00)
5. Harvesting Quests - the time limit is it Real world time or In game time? I have 23 Strength and I start picking and next thing I know I'm out of time and failed quest. If it's in game time how does one tell how much time is left/passing?
6. Skill Potential The (102%) thing - would someone explain that to me as if I were a 2 year old?
Behold the Beauty of my Curses/Diseases
I had and then immediately lost a leash, same with a monster ball. Any monsters to look out for as good bets?
I wanted to leash a cat last night. I was killing bears and hands, and one bear turned and ran after being injured. A stray dungeon cat suddenly ran at it and finished it off. I tried to give it a dead fish as a reward, but it refused. I wanted to take the little guy home after that.
And... and how does having a random dungeon storage room help with that?
Maybe I'm misreading what he meant, though.
Yeah, a bunch of the "I Want!" quests can be for things like junk stones, bone fragments, garbage or other random crap. Just have it on hand, and poof, instant plat.
Or, if you have a bunch of random junk on hand, you can use it to trade for the actual item from the NPC.
As it is, I will usually ransack the putit and bandit static dungeons for stuff to trade for the I Want! quests, if I can't get the actual item.
And the Negotiation skill is great. Price of individual IDs is down to 333 for me, woo. That's also with eating like three putit corpses too, so charisma is up a bit too.
I find stacks of multiple cure mutation potions in magic shops all the time. And they're not even all that expensive.
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The (potential) of skills is what is raised when you train it. The percentage is basically the amount of experience points for a skill you get when you do an action. Say the base XP for swinging a longsword is .01. Having 100% potential would mean one swing would take you from 2.00 to 2.01. 200% would take you to 2.02.
The leash isn't used to tame creatures. You use it on an existing pet to make it teleport back to you when it runs off screen. Similarly, you use a stethoscope on a pet to make it display a health bar. You can then drop the items back in storage, the effects are permanent even if either of you die.
So, I took out a boss monster at the bottom of a danger level 1 dungeon. I tell you, I did not expect an orc to have a breath weapon and paralyzing attack. It killed my little girl, possibly some of the other monsters, and almost killed me. When I looted it, I found out why it was so deadly: I had a halberd that "did nerve damage" (paralysis) and invoked a paralyzing breath attack. I promptly started using it once I fully ID'd it, so every now and then I'll paralyze an enemy or spit out a cone of paralysis in combat. I get the feeling I should be careful with this in town.
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You could save up for a ranch and breed low level pets there. Much splice-fuel to be had!
I found a room like that full of orcs, and another full of dogs. Luckily, both weren't right next to the stairs, so I was able to easily slaughter them with my blessed machinegun.
Apparently one of the maps was cursed, but they still netted me a pair of rather nice little things for a little level 4 archer.
Though what does 'maintain X' mean? Just prevent lowering or does it lock it at that value?
The blocked teleport is a fucking godsend.
I never asked for this!