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Elona: Part Roguelike, part JRPG, part Morrowind

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  • Rainbow WeaselRainbow Weasel Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dammit, every time I go to page 1 of my inventory my game crashes instantly. I mean, I can still function doing other things, but it is somewhat hard to not access a good portion of my inventory for fear of insta crash. Am I supposed to send an e-mail about my error report or something?

    EDIT: Scratch that. Decided to go among the dungeons and get my ass handed to me by random mobs. I guess they destroyed the item in question or something, because now I have everything pretty much back to normal. Well, except for my extreme drop in fame and cash (not that I really need any.)

    Rainbow Weasel on
  • Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I watch the calender very carefully now. Around the first of the month when its going to hit, I just head to my house and practice my harmonica until it comes and goes.

    Edit: So theres this little kid in Noyel who you can give Cure Corruption potions to for his mother. Is that a scam? Because I've already given them two over the course of the game, and I hadnt been back to check on them lately. It was so big of a deal because I just play Blackjack to get mine.

    Dr Mario Kart on
  • LoathingLoathing Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I got the ether wind disease on me called Mana Battery, which supposedly makes me absorb mana from nearby Rods (I'm guessing the rods you pick up and stuff?). It's a red debuff on the stat page, so it mean's that it's bad - but I really don't see that being all that bad since I never use rods.

    o_O

    Loathing on
  • ValkunValkun Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Darmak wrote: »
    Come to think of it, I dont know how to actually use those learned spells. I've seen those pop up in dreams a lot too. I know about using books/scrolls/rods of ___, but thats...different, right?
    Hit 's' I think, or hit 'a' and tab over. Either way, that's how you used learned spells. I'm a warrior and I know quite a few (4-dimensional pocket? lolwut) but I can't cast any due to shitty magic stats. That's alright though, I can still do my personal teleport thing so it's all good.

    Seriously, can anyone cast that and tell us what that does? It was the first spell I learned in a dream and my archer has never cast a spell yet.

    As a mid-level mage, I can attest that the spell does indeed allow you to put things in some mysterious dimension. However, I've yet to find a book/dream to give me enough stock to grab the experimental test item I left in there.

    Does the new version remove Harvest from the mage guild book writer? That'd make me sad, sad and poor.

    I've noticed that stocks for spells aren't dropping as fast as they were when I first started. It used to be 1 MP = 1 stock when casting. Now it's down to around 2 MP = 1 stock. I thought memorization gave more stock per spellbook charge. Does it simply make stock use more efficient?

    Valkun on
  • FantasyrogueFantasyrogue Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Loathing wrote: »
    I got the ether wind disease on me called Mana Battery, which supposedly makes me absorb mana from nearby Rods (I'm guessing the rods you pick up and stuff?). It's a red debuff on the stat page, so it mean's that it's bad - but I really don't see that being all that bad since I never use rods.

    o_O

    Well, rods of identify or uncurse or something are nice.

    I played some blackjack with the 10 free chips you get but I've no idea how to get more. I got some nice potions off that first set of chips (won 4 times in a row).

    Fantasyrogue on
  • LoathingLoathing Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Can try getting more chips by gathering materials from the different little nodes that appear. Get a whole bunch of random shit from then, most of the stuff I don't even know what it's used for - but the chips you get you use the the casino (obviously), the 100 and 500 yen coins you use in the treasure machines to get treasure balls.

    Loathing on
  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited August 2008
    Dammit, every time I go to page 1 of my inventory my game crashes instantly. I mean, I can still function doing other things, but it is somewhat hard to not access a good portion of my inventory for fear of insta crash. Am I supposed to send an e-mail about my error report or something?

    EDIT: Scratch that. Decided to go among the dungeons and get my ass handed to me by random mobs. I guess they destroyed the item in question or something, because now I have everything pretty much back to normal. Well, except for my extreme drop in fame and cash (not that I really need any.)

    A few other people have reported that some item causes the game to crash if you scroll to its page.

    And that's why I haven't updated yet.

    Aroduc on
  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Edit: So theres this little kid in Noyel who you can give Cure Corruption potions to for his mother. Is that a scam? Because I've already given them two over the course of the game, and I hadnt been back to check on them lately. It was so big of a deal because I just play Blackjack to get mine.

    It's not a scam, you give her 4 or 5 before the quest finishes. You get a pile of money at the end, though probably not as much as the potions were worth, but it's interesting anyway.

    Fats on
  • CelethangCelethang Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Also, I think once you finish that quest, every time after that you bring a cure corruption to her, you get +20 karma.

    Celethang on
  • LoathingLoathing Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I wouldn't waste a CC potion just to get some karma, unless you're in really, really, really bad need of it. Burying corpses I find gives me more then I need.

    Loathing on
  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Celethang wrote: »
    Also, I think once you finish that quest, every time after that you bring a cure corruption to her, you get +20 karma.

    Yes, if
    you don't kill her when she asks you to.

    Fats on
  • tgbobtgbob Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You could also sell her freak ass for 50k to Moyer, then kill her and Pael for their statues and cards.

    tgbob on
  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I *think* I'm finally starting to get the hang of this game, having got my Juere Claymore (Lunatic Mist) to level 5. Right now he's pretty much owning the shit out of this game, except for the occasional kobold or killer squirrel that shows up outta nowhere to 1-shot him. I'm afraid to level to 6 though, because that's when the real horrors of the game begin from what I can tell, and even without all the death penalties, I get pretty frustrated with this son of a bitch at times.

    The main question I have now is in regards to skills. I finally figured out the delivery racket, so my money has begun to skyrocket, but more importantly so have my PPs. I need just one more to get a new skill, so I'm wondering which I should go after first... cooking or weightlifting? I was thinking weightlifting just because, damn, I'm so sick of being overweight after picking up just a few items, but being able to cook is sure to have its own benefits. I don't actually have a portable cooking thingy yet though, and am not sure where to get one.

    Also, is 5th level about right to try to tackle the full extent of the puppy dungeon? I haven't gone more than 3 floors down so far, mainly because I end up needing to run back to sell stuff... but I imagine I'm gonna need a bit of extra food and stuff to get all the way down there.

    Toxic Pickle on
  • MithMith Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My Juere Claymore has both those skills, actually.

    IMO Cooking is peripheral, and cooking missions are a bit of a pain because your rotproof food storage is limited by number of stacks, each cooked item takes up its own stack, and results are semirandom. Cooked food stays around longer without rotting, but I don't think this actually matters very often. Maybe if you get Anatomy corpses start really piling up, I don't know.

    Weightlifting is nice, but Sense Quality will do more for cutting down your dungeon weight problems, and is nice to have besides. At skill level 6 it can filter out most trash equipment without you even having to pick it up. Grab this skill in Yowyn.

    Mith on
  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited August 2008
    Get Weightlifting.

    Aroduc on
  • ArcusArcus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've tried this game for a week now, and I'm loving the options and randomness, but at the same time wishing there was more documentation than just the wiki. So I'll throw a few questions out here. Right now my level 6 Pianist character is finally able to rake in same good amounts of gold, but is failing at being dominant in battles. I was trying to find ways to deal more damage and perhaps take hits better. Any suggestions? I also noticed that I'm lacking the tactics skill (which says it deals more damage plus I'd like the swarm skill). Does anyone know what town has the trainer for that?

    Also this thread sells the game pretty well, as it has random pics of the hilarity in the game, wacky weapons of epic destruction, and information on farming T-rex's and little girls :lol:

    Arcus on
  • LoathingLoathing Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Get weightlifting instead of cooking, and if you want to be able to do better in battles, just get more pets. Since you're charisma should be high since you're a pianist, you'll be able to have a nice little army.

    Loathing on
  • SilvanariSilvanari Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    cooking has a benefit that is mentioned earlier in this forum. all cooked foods weigh .5 this is extremely helpful if the corpses that you come accross start to weigh in at 35 or more.

    weightlifting will be easier to train up though. just walking around burdened will give you xp in it. so for the long run weightlifting is better to get early on.

    both are definately good skills to get because they allow you to actually make it to the bottom of dungeons.

    Silvanari on
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  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So last night this game really started showing me its unfair side... it's an ugly face that did not leave me wanting for more. At level 5, I'd decided to take on that slime dungeon in the first town, and while I did suffer a few deaths because man, fuck slimes, I was able to wear the slimes down over time and finally wrecked them all. I figured out that taking my little girl in this dungeon was epic fail though, because she has no qualms about standing in those puddles until she melts into goo herself.

    Flush with victory, I did a couple last quests and bought Weightlifting, hoping to finally start getting some carrying capacity. That handled, I decided it was time to take down the Puppy dungeon, and boy did I get slapped down. That fucking Kobold killed me so many damn times, many of which I never even saw him coming until he was right next to me, 1- to 2-shotting me with that fucking mace. The last time I had gone down to the 4th level, only to get blinded by some named Jeek (Leek? I can't remember) right on the stairs... not wanting to fight blind, I went back up the stairs to try and wait out the blindness only to be 2-shotted by a 'something' with a mace while I couldn't see. Fuck you kobolds, and fuck you Elona.

    Toxic Pickle on
  • tlc337tlc337 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    That handled, I decided it was time to take down the Puppy dungeon, and boy did I get slapped down.

    RE: Slime Quest: You should check your equipment and the state of your relationship with your Pet. The slimes will destroy all of your equipment if you weren't paying attention. And, the more that your pet dies, the more he/she hates you. This is a quest best left for later.

    Given what you've described, you need to level up some more before you take on Puppy Dungeon. It sucks, I know. The loot you get with Puppy dungeon is EXTREMELY helpful. But, it's going to have to wait if you're getting slaughtered that badly on the way down. It's going to be 10 times as bad trying to get back out with the puppy.

    Fortunately, if you level up enough (quests, Arena, Main Quest, visit every town, etc.), Puppy Dungeon is a cake walk done at the proper level.

    The best thing I've found is to try to find a randomly spawned "Beginner Dungeon" and try to trek through that. While it appears randomly on the map, the contents are instanced, so you can keep going in there and trying. War by attrition.

    This game is brilliant but unforgiving. Keep at it.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The slime quest was easy once I got a rod of lightning and a rod of fireball. It's basically a straight tunnel all the way to the end so you can zap a bunch of them at once. Fireball leaves little burning patches all over that continue to hurt the enemies which was how I killed that one uber slime thing.

    I used up every charge in each rod which was just enough. I had to briefly enter that last room to get the hiding enemies' attention. I don't know if I even lost any equipment, each time a slime was close enough to hit me I think it said I dodged them.

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  • FantasyrogueFantasyrogue Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I kept going in and hoping a putit would be in front of a slime, then I'd shoot the slime with my bow and arrows (while the putit blocked the way. Thanks guys earlier in the thread for that idea). It took me quite a while to get every last slime down and quite a few deaths of my own though. Plus one or two unforseen deaths when I accidentily teleported right into the room full of slimes. I really need that cure corruption potion :P

    The puppy dungeon still gives me too much trouble if I go in too deep so I'll keep looking for other ways to raise my stats/get my pets happier (and higher level).

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I kept going in and hoping a putit would be in front of a slime, then I'd shoot the slime with my bow and arrows (while the putit blocked the way. Thanks guys earlier in the thread for that idea). It took me quite a while to get every last slime down and quite a few deaths of my own though. Plus one or two unforseen deaths when I accidentily teleported right into the room full of slimes. I really need that cure corruption potion :P

    The puppy dungeon still gives me too much trouble if I go in too deep so I'll keep looking for other ways to raise my stats/get my pets happier (and higher level).
    To get your pets happier and higher level just let them kill things. They get happier and happier the more they kill, and they get xp to boot. I guess they're just homicidal maniacs who love to kill stuff but it makes things easy. Just enter a dungeon and stand on the exit staircase and hold down the '5' key on your num pad, the monsters will come to you and your pet will kill them all. That way you can leave whenever things start to look grim or if you need monsters to respawn.

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  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    If you can't cast spells you can lure a normal slime to block the narrow passage while you shoot at those acid slimes coming from behind. They tend to spill acid on the ground greatly hurting itself and the ones around them.

    Regarding the puppy dungeon you should roll a warrior or a warmage if you don't like getting oneshotted. I don't have much trouble with the dungeon at all maybe except for the hunger inducing ghoul and my own greed.

    Edit: Bows are your good friend.

    Peas on
  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    What's it mean when some of my stats have a * next to them in the char screen?

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  • Steel-AngelSteel-Angel Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    A drunken miner raped my dog in the first town.

    This game is so awesome.

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  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Just to clarify a few things:

    I'm playing a Claymore, so am wearing some pretty decent armor, and my sword does seem to kill most anything so fast that I basically just run around and plow through every other enemy in the dungeon... it's just that there always seems to be one uber critter lurking around down there that destroys me... everything else is super easy... I usually get ganged up by enemies and mow them down like nothing.

    I don't really understand why, amidst all these easy monsters, there is one, indistinguishable from the rest, that is ridiculously powerful. I understand putting one in there for the fear effect, but at least make it look different somehow so I can see it coming and run like a little girl.

    In other news, I decided to try something different again, just to see how it played. I made a Catgod Archer, and boy is -that- ever ridiculous. Fast run speed, incredible evasion, but my bow doesn't seem to do much at all versus enemies with good armor. Right as I was leaving the first town, I got ambushed by a few monsters, one of them being a hermit crab... I literally stood there and fired at it for ten minutes, not able to make a dent in its health, but at the same time it couldn't hit me because of evasion... it did hit me occasionally but I'd heal right back up by the time it ever got another shot in. I got to second level just by standing there holding the 'F' key, machine-gunning (or rather, machine-bowing) it. I had to stop occasionally to eat something, but otherwise that was pure cheating. And it was awesome.

    Found another hermit crab in the beginning of the Puppy Dungeon, and fighting that got me to 3rd level. This is ridiculous... ridiculous awesome!

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I think the problem is that you're a glass cannon. You can go around one-shotting everything but not notice when your HP starts dropping. Doesn't take many hits to kill any character.

    I always take dodge and defensive feats at the start.

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  • LoathingLoathing Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The main quest is kind of fucked IMO. That dungeon you need to go into, and then get to level 16 to find that scout or whatever, it gets rather godamn insanely hard around level 12. Like, I'm level 13 and I have six pets with me, ranging from level 7 at the lowest to level 16 at the highest and we still got raped - not to mention there was invisible shit attacking me in there too.

    Loathing on
  • vhzodvhzod Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I really like the game but I don't think I can play anymore for now. Why? Because there's no way to dodge magic beams. So hounds, bishops, goblin shamans, all of that crap completely kills me before I can do anything to it. They show up in every dungeon and almost every hunting mission now. I just can't put up with dying to something I can't even get away from.

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  • SueveSueve Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Can someone suggest a good starting character? I want to try this again with a plausible character and not a slug wizard girl runner.

    Sueve on
  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    To be honest, I'm at a point where I just don't really know what to do. All my quests are too hard, and I've done every instanced dungeon that it within my capabilities to do(like, not super high level). My guy is pretty awesome, with good equipment, stats, mutations, etc... But I still can't take an equal leveled dungeon to me, or anything.

    So I just don't know what to do. I can make lots of money, but for what? I generally trade or steal for anything I need, as I have scrolls of oracle coming out of every orifice. I just basically go to the world map, and say "Damn, what should I go do? I don't even know..."

    Raslin on
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  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Thash grape! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sueve wrote: »
    Can someone suggest a good starting character? I want to try this again with a plausible character and not a slug wizard girl runner.

    If you want to completely break the game, turn on extended races and make a Catgod Archer. Oh my freaking god they are insane. Fast run speed + awesome ranged = win. Even if enemies do take a swing at me or fire ranged weapons, I have high evasion skills so they usually miss.

    I've been doing those escort quests where you get jumped by assassins, and winning every fight because I can stay at range and just constantly fire my bow, beating monsters far more powerful than myself by simple attrition. I might have more problems when I get levels and have to worry about stronger ranged and magic enemies, but as of right now it's just sick.

    Having reached level 5, Void Whore the Catgod Archer has yet to die! 8-)

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited August 2008
    Raslin wrote: »
    To be honest, I'm at a point where I just don't really know what to do. All my quests are too hard, and I've done every instanced dungeon that it within my capabilities to do(like, not super high level). My guy is pretty awesome, with good equipment, stats, mutations, etc... But I still can't take an equal leveled dungeon to me, or anything.

    So I just don't know what to do. I can make lots of money, but for what? I generally trade or steal for anything I need, as I have scrolls of oracle coming out of every orifice. I just basically go to the world map, and say "Damn, what should I go do? I don't even know..."

    Do the main quest?

    Aroduc on
  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    To be honest, I'm at a point where I just don't really know what to do. All my quests are too hard, and I've done every instanced dungeon that it within my capabilities to do(like, not super high level). My guy is pretty awesome, with good equipment, stats, mutations, etc... But I still can't take an equal leveled dungeon to me, or anything.

    So I just don't know what to do. I can make lots of money, but for what? I generally trade or steal for anything I need, as I have scrolls of oracle coming out of every orifice. I just basically go to the world map, and say "Damn, what should I go do? I don't even know..."

    Do the main quest?

    Lesimas is too hard. I can get to about lvl 13, and then things just start raping me.

    Raslin on
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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited August 2008
    Raslin wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    To be honest, I'm at a point where I just don't really know what to do. All my quests are too hard, and I've done every instanced dungeon that it within my capabilities to do(like, not super high level). My guy is pretty awesome, with good equipment, stats, mutations, etc... But I still can't take an equal leveled dungeon to me, or anything.

    So I just don't know what to do. I can make lots of money, but for what? I generally trade or steal for anything I need, as I have scrolls of oracle coming out of every orifice. I just basically go to the world map, and say "Damn, what should I go do? I don't even know..."

    Do the main quest?

    Lesimas is too hard. I can get to about lvl 13, and then things just start raping me.

    I would postulate that maybe your equipment isn't as good as you think it is then.

    Aroduc on
  • PeasPeas Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Juere Warmage is a pretty stable build if you want to do melee as well as casting reasonably well. Feats wise I chose Lady killer, Magical Cell, and Exorcist.
    Raslin wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    To be honest, I'm at a point where I just don't really know what to do. All my quests are too hard, and I've done every instanced dungeon that it within my capabilities to do(like, not super high level). My guy is pretty awesome, with good equipment, stats, mutations, etc... But I still can't take an equal leveled dungeon to me, or anything.

    So I just don't know what to do. I can make lots of money, but for what? I generally trade or steal for anything I need, as I have scrolls of oracle coming out of every orifice. I just basically go to the world map, and say "Damn, what should I go do? I don't even know..."

    Do the main quest?

    Lesimas is too hard. I can get to about lvl 13, and then things just start raping me.

    Did you try building a farm,ranch or a museum yet? You can use your money on these to make even more money. That said, I still have a long way to go before I have enough to build a museum. Also my farm is a desolated barren.

    Peas on
  • SilvanariSilvanari Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    actually Catgod anything is pretty badass. i've got a catgod thief and i rape the hell out of everything. i can't dual weild, but who cares when nothing can hit me. at level 5, i went down to the 14th level of lesimas before things started to kill me. and as far as the game is concerned, i haven't died yet.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    To be honest, I'm at a point where I just don't really know what to do. All my quests are too hard, and I've done every instanced dungeon that it within my capabilities to do(like, not super high level). My guy is pretty awesome, with good equipment, stats, mutations, etc... But I still can't take an equal leveled dungeon to me, or anything.

    So I just don't know what to do. I can make lots of money, but for what? I generally trade or steal for anything I need, as I have scrolls of oracle coming out of every orifice. I just basically go to the world map, and say "Damn, what should I go do? I don't even know..."

    Do the main quest?

    Lesimas is too hard. I can get to about lvl 13, and then things just start raping me.

    I would postulate that maybe your equipment isn't as good as you think it is then.

    So you've done it, I assume?

    Raslin on
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  • john fechonjohn fechon Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Raslin wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    To be honest, I'm at a point where I just don't really know what to do. All my quests are too hard, and I've done every instanced dungeon that it within my capabilities to do(like, not super high level). My guy is pretty awesome, with good equipment, stats, mutations, etc... But I still can't take an equal leveled dungeon to me, or anything.

    So I just don't know what to do. I can make lots of money, but for what? I generally trade or steal for anything I need, as I have scrolls of oracle coming out of every orifice. I just basically go to the world map, and say "Damn, what should I go do? I don't even know..."

    Do the main quest?

    Lesimas is too hard. I can get to about lvl 13, and then things just start raping me.

    I would postulate that maybe your equipment isn't as good as you think it is then.

    So you've done it, I assume?


    The dungeon levels don't always match up to your char's level. I didn't make it to the bottom of the puppy dungeon until about level 9. Try leveling up other skills like perform, invest in a shopkeeper and get better equipment from them. Train spells and casting if you went warrior, or try using a different weapon like axes, bows, or polearms, level those skills. Nuke palmia and steal the throne. You know you want to.

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