PSP or DS?!?! *#)(!@ I CANT CHOOSE!

Crimthaan

I'm thinkin of grabbin one of the two...I just cant decide which bloody one. I'm already got a 30Gig iPod, dont have a playstation *sold my two to help pay for 360* and am generally new to the whole portable gaming device...

What are the pro/cons of each? I'm pretty sure PSP has the prettier games and get online, but it seem that DS has a wider variety of game...I'm especially intrigued by Advanced Wars and Sid Meirs...


Thanks guys,
Crim

*goes to put on his flame retardent suit and hopes trolls dont bash on him

Pureauthor

It would help if you gave us a bit more of an overview as the sort of games you like/don't like, you know?

That aside, I'm just going to guess DS, since it hits a wider range, and is therefore likelier to satiate you.

Dis

NDS for the games...
PSP for portable Videos and some gaming...

NDS simply has more fun games than PSP...

Ah_Pook

i recommend getting the one that has the games that you want to play on it. personally i would go with the DS and copies of AW: Days Of Ruin and Space Invaders Extreme, but thats just me.

Cantido

I traded my PSP, they had a No Games problem for a while.

I got a DS this year and I don't think I'm ever going to sell any of it games. Gonna play foreva...

Crimthaan

Wow, fast replies...

As far as games go, I think I'm pretty much a game slut. Started out with RTS's, then turn based games...then FPS's. Recently *past 2 years* I've gotten super into RPG's *dare I say I've never played a FF game?!* and games like brain age and shit are cool....

From where I've seen so far it looks like for PURE gaming and stuff *whcih is what I want it for, I already have a laptop and iPod* the DS is teh way to go.

MarioG

One question: Do you like fun? If so get a DS.

Also Zelda, Animal Crossing and Mario Kart are all god DS games with WiFi.

Pureauthor

Hm, well then, if you like jRPGs, DS is probably the better choice. 'Brain Age' stuff as well.

Also, 'pure' gaming is a pretty ridiculous buzzword.

MundaneSoul

I went through this same dilemma a few months back. I chose the DS.

I do not regret this decision. Not even a little.

Obviously there are great games on both systems, but I personally feel like the DS has the better selection and lots of great stuff on the horizon as well.

Transporter

This is the worst disgused thread I have ever seen.

Kalkino

Advance Wars has enough replayability to justify a DS on its own, if you like TBS games

Dashui

I have both, and I play my PSP far more, but every person is going to give you their opinion. The only person who can choose is you, even if you say you can't decide. We don't necessarily know what you exactly like, only you do, so look at the list of games and get the one that has more titles you're interested in.

In the case of RPGs, as you say you're getting "super" into them, they both have a good amount of them. I think the PSP has more variety, however, instead of just numerous Final Fantasy remakes. You've got lots of Tales games on the PSP, such as Tales of Eternia, Tales of Mythology 1 and 2, and Tales of Heart. I absolutely love those games. There's also Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core, Brave New Story, Breath of Fire III, Disgaea, Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy Tactics, Jeanne D'Arc, Wild Arms, Riviera, etc. It can also play PSX games, and I've got Vagrant Story on there right now.

If you like Metal Gear Solid, there's also Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops that's very much worth looking into. The Metal Gear Acid games are equally fun. For the more quirky games, there's Patapon and LocoRoco, including the sequels they just announced. Sid Meier's Pirates! is also available on the system, which is ridiculously addictive.

Those are just some of the games on the PSP I consider worth getting, and if any of those match up to your likes, then perhaps the PSP is up your alley. But like I said, opinions, and only you know exactly what you ultimately want. Either way, good luck; both are great systems.

slash000

For variety, RPGs, several great strategy gaming options, and just great portability/battery life, the option to get pick up and play or sit down and play for a while games, and even a few good FPSs, I think your best bet is the NDS.

Obviously, both systems have some of these game types, but thinking on it, I can come up with more in every category on the NDS, and each of which I would consider at least an equal or better game in most instances.

Crimthaan

Sweetttt

I went through this dilemma a few months ago and chose to hold back on buying either. Now that I'm working my third 12 hour shift in a row *security guard sucks* I need something to keep me entertained. I think on my lunch break I'm gonna go grab a DS and a game or two.


@Pureauthor: really? buzz word? Would you like me to specify a little better next time? hah, thanks for the advice.

slash000

If you're just now getting into RPGs, with the NDS you can open up the entire library of NDS RPGs as well.

Pureauthor

Dashui wrote: »

I have both, and I play my PSP far more, but every person is going to give you their opinion. The only person who can choose is you, even if you say you can't decide. We don't necessarily know what you exactly like, only you do, so look at the list of games and get the one that has more titles you're interested in.

In the case of RPGs, as you say you're getting "super" into them, they both have a good amount of them. I think the PSP has more variety, however, instead of just numerous Final Fantasy remakes.

Leaving aside that the best RPGs on the DS are completely new IPs, that one of the FF remakes is of a game that 99% of gamers in english-speaking countries never had the chance to play, and that the other remake has changed enough shit to basically qualify as an entirely new game...

You've got lots of Tales games on the PSP, such as Tales of Eternia, Tales of Mythology 1 and 2, and Tales of Heart. I absolutely love those games. There's also Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core, Brave New Story, Breath of Fire III, Disgaea, Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy Tactics, Jeanne D'Arc, Wild Arms, Riviera, etc. It can also play PSX games, and I've got Vagrant Story on there right now.

More than half the games in your list are straight ports! Also, it's 'Brave Story: New Traveler', not Brave New Story.

Aaaannnnnnnddd I'm pretty sure Tales of Heart is a DS game.

If you're just now getting into RPGs, with the NDS you can open up the entire library of NDS RPGs as well.

I should certainly hope so.

slash000

I took the liberty of gleaning from the other past thread what RPGs are out and what are coming out for the Nintendo DS:


The World Ends with You
Front Mission DS
Dragon Quest Rocket Slime
Zelda PH
DQ Monsters
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy Tactics A2
Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicles
Final Fantasy Fables
Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey 2
Mario and Luigi Partners in Time
Rune Factory
Contact
Luminous Arc
Children of Mana


Pokemon Ranger (roguelike rpg)
Shiren the Wanderer (roguelike rpg)
Izuna (roguelike rpg)


Announced:

Dragon Quest IX
Sonic Chronicles: Brotherhood
Chrono Trigger Ds
Blue Dragon DS
Disgaea DS
Dragon Quest Iv
Dragon Quest V
Dragon Quest VI
Archaic Sealed Heat
Blue Dragon DS


KH 358/2d
Avalon Code
Rune Factory 2
Soma Bringer
World Destruction
Sigman Harmonics
Valkyrie Profile TAO
Pokemon Ranger2
Shiren 2
Monster Lair
From the Abyss
Away Shuffle Dungeon (Mistwalker!)
Tales of Tempest
Tales of Innocence
Luminous Arc 2




I know I missed a few, as well.



Anyway, what the OP should really consider is all of the GBA backwards compat games. The GBA has tons of awesome RPGs, some great strategy games, and tons tons of variety.

blaklaw

The internets is no place to ask people to compare two systems. The signal-to-noise ratio contains too much brand loyalty and not enough fact.

Look at the available games for both, make a list of which ones you are interested in. Purchase the system with the bigger list.

I have them both. Either way, you will be very happy.

slash000

Pureauthor wrote: »

You've got lots of Tales games on the PSP, such as Tales of Eternia, Tales of Mythology 1 and 2, and Tales of Heart. I absolutely love those games. There's also Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core, Brave New Story, Breath of Fire III, Disgaea, Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy Tactics, Jeanne D'Arc, Wild Arms, Riviera, etc. It can also play PSX games, and I've got Vagrant Story on there right now.

Aaaannnnnnnddd I'm pretty sure Tales of Heart is a DS game.

Indeed, Tales of Heart is an NDS games.

Final Fantasy is playable via the GBA. Riviera is as well. Disgaea is coming to the Nintendo DS.

The Breath of Fire games, 1 and 2, are on the GBA, and whilst there is no FFT on the GBA or NDS, there is FFTA on the GBA and FFTA2 on the NDS.

blaklaw wrote: »

The internets is no place to ask people to compare two systems. The signal-to-noise ratio contains too much brand loyalty and not enough fact.

Look at the available games for both, make a list of which ones you are interested in. Purchase the system with the bigger list.

I have them both. Either way, you will be very happy.

I disagree. I think that a message board can have a civilized discussion about the merits of two games libraries available to two different platforms, as well as the quality and variety of each, without devolving into a flamewar.

I agree that the OP should make a list of games he's interested in. But I think one of the best ways to help him in doing that is to answer his questions as best we can. A lot of things on each platform go unnoticed. A thread like this can really help a person decide.

But ultimately the decision is up to the OP.

Khavall

I went through this a while ago, chose PSP, and have never looked back.



Here's the real truth: Both are great systems. They both have a great library, and there is nothing wrong with either system.

The PSPs "has no games" problems was solved long ago.

Khavall

Pureauthor wrote: »

You've got lots of Tales games on the PSP, such as Tales of Eternia, Tales of Mythology 1 and 2, and Tales of Heart. I absolutely love those games. There's also Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core, Brave New Story, Breath of Fire III, Disgaea, Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy Tactics, Jeanne D'Arc, Wild Arms, Riviera, etc. It can also play PSX games, and I've got Vagrant Story on there right now.

More than half the games in your list are straight ports! Also, it's 'Brave Story: New Traveler', not Brave New Story.

Aaaannnnnnnddd I'm pretty sure Tales of Heart is a DS game.

I'm sorry, are ports no longer good games?

slash000

Both are great systems. Both very viable for gaming. The tough question arises when trying to decide which will bring the better bang for your buck, so to speak.

And ports definitely should 'count,' so to speak, because portable ports of great games serve the purpose of allowing you to play awesome games on the go. And in fact, the OP may not have played them on the original system. And if he did, he may very well be excited to play a portable iteration of it.

I know quite a few people are excited for Chrono Trigger DS. Myself, for example.

Pureauthor

No, see, read the part I bolded in the first half. He basically dismisses the DS jRPG library as 'Final fantasy remakes' (and in most gamer's views, I imagine they hold remakes to be higher than straight ports), and then proceeds to list... ports in support of the PSP. I just found it funny.

El Guaco

I think one of the criteria you should consider is what you're going to use the handheld for. Me, I use it to kill 10 minutes to an hour when I'm not at home and want something to pass the time. Or, as a way to relax before I go to sleep. I've found that the DS's catalog of games is good for this kind of play that is pick-up and put-down. I don't want a handheld game where I feel like I have to play for 30 minutes straight to make progress, I want instant gratification. If I wanted an epic gameplay experience, I'll turn on my 360.

slash000

Pureauthor wrote: »

No, see, read the part I bolded in the first half. He basically dismisses the DS jRPG library as 'Final fantasy remakes' (and in most gamer's views, I imagine they hold remakes to be higher than straight ports), and then proceeds to list... ports in support of the PSP. I just found it funny.

Oh, I see what you mean. It was a bit unfair to dismiss the "Final Fantasy remakes" on the NDS because they are.. final fantasy remakes.. and then list a bunch of games, of which consist of ports/remakes, some of which are Final Fantasy. :P

Anyway, they're all (the ones listed) pretty good games, in general I'd say.

Khavall

El Guaco wrote: »

I think one of the criteria you should consider is what you're going to use the handheld for. Me, I use it to kill 10 minutes to an hour when I'm not at home and want something to pass the time. Or, as a way to relax before I go to sleep. I've found that the DS's catalog of games is good for this kind of play that is pick-up and put-down. I don't want a handheld game where I feel like I have to play for 30 minutes straight to make progress, I want instant gratification. If I wanted an epic gameplay experience, I'll turn on my 360.

Both have power save modes that work well, and both have games that can be played for short amounts of time or long amounts of time.

Daedalus

slash000 wrote: »

I disagree. I think that a message board can have a civilized discussion about the merits of two games libraries available to two different platforms, as well as the quality and variety of each, without devolving into a flamewar.

I agree in theory but have seen little evidence of this in practice.

Pureauthor

More games need to use the Pokemons' 'Oh you're back. Here's a summary of the stuff you last did to get you up to speed'. deal.

slash000

Khavall wrote: »

Both have power save modes that work well, and both have games that can be played for short amounts of time or long amounts of time.

Agreed.

Daedalus wrote: »

slash000 wrote: »

I disagree. I think that a message board can have a civilized discussion about the merits of two games libraries available to two different platforms, as well as the quality and variety of each, without devolving into a flamewar.

I agree in theory but have seen little evidence of this in practice.

Depends on how you define the term. But our last DS/PSP which to choose thread turned out pretty darn well.

Roxtar

Dis wrote: »

NDS for the games...
PSP for portable Videos and some gaming...

NDS simply has more fun games than PSP...

Yeah thats totally FACT! Not just an opinion.... o_O Anyways i'm of the set of going PsP as I personnally prefer PsP games :shock: such as Crisis Core, Jean D'arc, and patapon amongst others (currently playing Gurumin). What I would suggest is look at a catalogue of games both offer and make a decision. I will GUARANTEE you the PsP looks better, however may have a shorter battery life and a smaller selection of games. What I did was went with the system that had the games I wanted and bought it (system sellers were Jean D'arc and spectral souls for me).

blaklaw

slash000 wrote: »

I disagree. I think that a message board can have a civilized discussion about the merits of two games libraries available to two different platforms, as well as the quality and variety of each, without devolving into a flamewar.

I think this thread will be another civil discussion that is 50% helpful and 50% people arguing, civilly, over why the DS is better in every possible way (or vice versa, but with a lot less frequency).

To me, that's never helpful. Even when it's civil and not flamey. Maybe it is to the OP. I dunno.

But ultimately, we agree. Both are very capable of making the OP happy.

Daedalus

I prefer the DS largely because it's easier to run homebrew stuff on, as opposed to the PSP where you are in a constant battle with the manufacturer if you want to run unsigned code. This may not interest you at all, which is fair.

That said, I'll probably pick up a PSP to go with my DS if I ever find one sufficiently cheap.

slash000

I tried to get homebrew to run on my PSP so as to get full screen TV output, but I was very much afraid of bricking the thing, so I decided not to do it. I haven't felt a desire to mod my NDS one way or the other, mostly because any time I consider doing it, I decide to spend the cash on a new game rather than whatever equipment it is you need for NDS homebrew.

Daedalus

slash000 wrote: »

I tried to get homebrew to run on my PSP so as to get full screen TV output, but I was very much afraid of bricking the thing, so I decided not to do it. I haven't felt a desire to mod my NDS one way or the other, mostly because any time I consider doing it, I decide to spend the cash on a new game rather than whatever equipment it is you need for NDS homebrew.

You don't need to mod the DS anymore, just get a card that looks just like a DS game except with a slot for a MicroSD card. Total cost is around $20, plus whatever you spend on a MicroSD card. No modifications to your DS whatsoever. Unless you want to get rid of the Health and Safety Warning, anyway.

And between ScummVM, Quake, Descent, and Lemmings alone it is so worth it. I'd pay $20 for any one of those.

Dashui

Jeez, rip me apart, Nintendo people. :P

I really don't like these kind of threads, especially with these two very big competing companies. You always have two sides trying to dish it out. Really, he should just look at a proper list of games and their review scores and decide himself. I'm not always comfortable having a bunch of people tell him someone what he or she should like, which is why I said they're both great systems. I do own both, after all.

Just say up some money and buy both!

slash000

We're not telling him what to get. We're providing information and then giving an opinion.

Can't much go wrong with either system. But there are definitely big differences to both. I think that the more information provided by more people, along with more opinions on each side supported by such information, I think it is the back and forth nature of such a discussion that helps a person make a decision. Gives consideration to both sides.


Hm. Maybe this post of mine isn't very helpful, though :P

Wearingglasses

You know, buy both if you ever come across them on bargains. They're both worth your money. People on both sides have been very satisfied with their purchase, evidently.

Xagarath

Both systems have good games, though I find the DS library accords better with my own tastes.
The key difference is that the DS has more games in development for it, and is likely to continue doing so.

Food

I have a PSP and a DS, and I enjoy the DS a bit more mainly because it has more games that are 'up my alley' so to speak. Both systems are fun, though.

Crimthaan

I just got back from GameStop. Picked up a blue DS lite, Warhammer: Squad Command *Since I play 40k*, Brain Age II, Advanced Wars, and Mario Kart. Thanks for everyones input...even if half of you were arguing

slash000

Hour and fifteen minutes. Nice.