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I'm sure everyone knows by now what I'm talking about in the title (if not, look at my username). I'm fed up. Is there a way for me to change what type of woman I find attractive? I'm a virgin; if my first time is with a thin girl (Not that I think anyone will be the least interested in me...), will that condition me towards finding leaner woman more attractive?
I wouldn't worry about changing what type of woman you're attracted to. I'd focus on trying to accept being attracted to whatever type of woman you're attracted to. Just because you lose your virginity to a thin girl, definitely does not mean you will suddenly find women of that body type attractive.
I'm guessing from the context of your message you are attracted to larger women, but I don't get that from your screen name. There's nothing wrong with that. You can't really control what gets you going, so just think about why you feel this is a bad thing for you to feel, when it's completely cool and natural.
Rubick, look up his history. He's made several threads about this.
This thread will probably devolve into the catastrophe most of your threads do, Windbit, but you need to see a therapist. Theres nothing wrong with being attracted to larger women. I'm attracted to girls with higher than average pitched voices. I dont know why, and i dont really care. I just accept it as just my preference and go with it.
I put that part about my username because I've already driven half the userbase here crazy. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised to find this thread locked before I finish this reply.
I wish I could just like bigger girls, but to tell the truth, I'm mentally ill. I can't feel right finding any woman who is heavier, even slightly, attractive. I always hear about how too much body fat is bad for you in the media, and about a year ago I had tried to research to see if things are as bad as they make it out to be. As far as I can tell, it is.
I've started seeing a therapist again, and I just saw a psychiatrist today who wants me to change my anti-anxiety medication to something that he hopes will help me better. However, I don't think I'll ever have peace of mind liking heavier women. In fact, I don't think I'll be able to stop worrying unless I start trying to find women who are borderline underweight attractive.
I know people can't understand why I feel this way, but I do, and telling me to stop worrying won't help. I just want a way out.
Rubick, look up his history. He's made several threads about this.
This thread will probably devolve into the catastrophe most of your threads do, Windbit, but you need to see a therapist. Theres nothing wrong with being attracted to larger women. I'm attracted to girls with higher than average pitched voices. I dont know why, and i dont really care. I just accept it as just my preference and go with it.
At least your preference isn't a major independent cause of heart disease, diabetes, and even some types of cancer apparently.
Be with women *YOU* find attractive, whether that be stick thin european underwear models or very large voluptuous women, not what you think "society" will expect you to be attracted to. Be with a woman who loves herself for who she is, not what she looks like. Be caring supportive and kind. Everyone's perception of what they're attracted to is different.
Dude, you had this exact thread before, with people giving you good advice. I don't think there's really anything new anyone can tell you at this point.
Being underweight is no sign of good health. So if its guilt keeping you from Heavy girls you cant justify it by "forcing yourself" to like skinny chicks. You're crazy, and I hope your therapy helps you, but you are going to get the same responses you did last thread.
Be with women *YOU* find attractive, whether that be stick thin european underwear models or very large voluptuous women, not what you think "society" will expect you to be attracted to. Be with a woman who loves herself for who she is, not what she looks like. Be caring supportive and kind. Everyone's perception of what they're attracted to is different.
I'm not doing this because of society: I'm doing this because I have developed a severe obsession with body fat and health that I can't deal with anymore.
I personally think that chubbier girls are beautiful, and I'd like nothing more than to hear medical experts all of a sudden say that being slightly overweight is not a risk, but they don't. In fact, many say that it is best to be as close to the bottom of the acceptable range as possible. Whenever I look at a heavier girl now, I can't help but think that the excess body fat that gives them the shape I love is also helping to destroy their health.
The only other way I could possibly rid myself of this obsession is if I could erase my memory of anything having to do with weight and health, and trust me I'd rather do that than change what I'm attracted to. But I can't.
Dude, you've talked about this for sooo long, are you sure you are even attracted to women? To me this sounds like you are making excuses to push yourself away from them. You say you never feel right being attracted to them, but maybe its not for the reason you think. You might be gay and not yet realize it.
Jesus Christ man, this isn't some tinpot dictatorship where you are going to be persecuted for liking fat women. If that's your thing, that's your thing.
Dude, you've talked about this for sooo long, are you sure you are even attracted to women? To me this sounds like you are making excuses to push yourself away from them. You say you never feel right being attracted to them, but maybe its not for the reason you think. You might be gay and not yet realize it.
See a therapist.
At this point I almost wish you're right.
Also, I started seeing a therapist in Atlanta yesterday. My next appointment isn't until next Wednesday. I wish I could see him everyday, because honestly now I'd rather sleep straight through the week until my next appointment rather than have to wait.
Dude, you've talked about this for sooo long, are you sure you are even attracted to women? To me this sounds like you are making excuses to push yourself away from them. You say you never feel right being attracted to them, but maybe its not for the reason you think. You might be gay and not yet realize it.
Man, you like what you like. If something deep in the reptilian stem of your brain sees a chubby girl, or a skinny girl, or a perky little redhead, or whatever your thing is, and sends up a message saying "I WANT TO BREED WITH THIS," it's pretty fucking hard to tune that out. And why would you want to? Looking at things you think are sexy is nice, why spoil that with higher brain function? Hell, there are plenty of deeply-ingrained biological reasons to be attracted to heavier women, if you really want to drag SCIENCE! into this... being able to carry extra weight has been a symbol of success for most of human history. Skinniness used to be equated with poverty and/or hard physical labour; only the wealthy could afford *not* to be toiling in the fields burning calories. Also, wide hips make for easier childbirth, and the ability to store fat reserves in the thighs and ass used to be a pretty useful survival skill.
Another thing is, what you think you're attracted to might not even have anything to do with what your body actually responds to. You're a virgin, so believe me, emotion goes a long way towards nudging those neural pathways over a bit. I grew up thinking that my "type" was the dark-haired, dark-eyed, clean-shaven sensitive tough guy, and I spent years nursing schoolgirl crushes on David Duchovny and Paul Gross. My boyfriend, however, is a white-skinned Irishman with wavy blond hair, blue eyes, and a fiercely red beard that would do a Viking oarsman proud, and I think he's the sexiest thing on two legs. Would I still do Christian Bale in a New York minute? Probably, because he's the goddamned Batman. But I no longer fret about finding somebody to match my idealized type, because I've already got someone perfect, and my type can just deal with that.
Stop worrying about what you're attracted to, and for the love of God, don't plan your first sexual encounter around a body type. This isn't behavioural conditioning, and you shouldn't be figuring out how many skinny girls you'll need to grind before you gain another level in your Compliance with Norms of Sexual Attraction skill.
Dude, you've talked about this for sooo long, are you sure you are even attracted to women? To me this sounds like you are making excuses to push yourself away from them. You say you never feel right being attracted to them, but maybe its not for the reason you think. You might be gay and not yet realize it.
See a therapist.
At this point I almost wish you're right.
Maybe I am.
So now in a few months we're gonna see a thread about how to change what kind of guy you are attracted to?
Dude, you've talked about this for sooo long, are you sure you are even attracted to women? To me this sounds like you are making excuses to push yourself away from them. You say you never feel right being attracted to them, but maybe its not for the reason you think. You might be gay and not yet realize it.
See a therapist.
At this point I almost wish you're right.
Maybe I am.
So now in a few months we're gonna see a thread about how to change what kind of guy you are attracted to?
Dude, you've talked about this for sooo long, are you sure you are even attracted to women? To me this sounds like you are making excuses to push yourself away from them. You say you never feel right being attracted to them, but maybe its not for the reason you think. You might be gay and not yet realize it.
See a therapist.
At this point I almost wish you're right.
Maybe I am.
So now in a few months we're gonna see a thread about how to change what kind of guy you are attracted to?
OK, I didn't know all the OP's past history with this subject... I still think my advice is valid, and I'm going to add in this nice little bonus.
You're obsessed with the health risks associated with being overweight. Let me tell you something.
I am what would be considered a plus size girl. My cholesterol is Normal, my blood glucose levels are Normal, I have a strong and healthy heart, but then again, I see my Doc at the very least once a year for a physical and blood work, and I take care of myself, I eat (pretty) healthy and exercise.... all of this and I'm still "plus size"... and healthy.
I understand you have an obsession and an irrational fear, I hope your therapy helps, I do. Understand though, that it's the girl's lifestyle and also family history that's going to dictate a lot of what you're afraid of, not purely her body type.
You're fucking insane. This has nothing to do with the type of woman you're attracted to, it has to do with your anxiety seeking something to fixate on. If you weren't into curvier women, you'd be freaking out that the girl you like eats fast food, or high fructose corn syrup, or likes to drink once in awhile, or loves her caffeine, or smokes occaisionally, or rides roller coasters, or something.
Drill this into your head: everyone does things that are bad for them. Everyone is going to die someday, possibly because of their bad habits but possibly not. That thicker girl you think is super-hot but in danger of heart disease? May outlive your skinny ass for years because she's healthy and you got hit by a bus due to your road-crossing habit. Stick with your therapist and stop making stupid threads about this.
My dads advice. "Son, marry yourself an ugly woman and she'll always treat you like a king!" Now, I ended up marrying a really really nice woman who has realistic (curvy) porportions, and is a little moreso after giving me a bouncing healthy baby daughter (2 months now). And you know what? She needs lovin' too.
If you really love someone, appearance is not so important anymore after awhile. After all, for every hot chick in the world, there's some guy who just couldn't stand her shit anymore.
Good Lord, another thread? The women whom you posted links to in your last thread weren't even that much overweight. But even if they were, so what? Just go date the women you find attractive.
I know exactly where my preference for women comes from, and I know that it is something that is pretty impossible to change.
In my case, there are two factors:
One, my sister is blond and was a bimbo type in high school. I was the little brother, and she beat me and made my life hell when I was younger.
Two, my first real crush was on a girl with dark hair and a dark personality. She was beautiful and rebellious. We were just slightly more than friends throughout my entire middle and high school years, but nothing serious ever came from our relationship.
So, I hate blond bimbo girls and dont find them attractive at all, while dark or auburn haired, smokey eyed independent and dangerously sexy girls bring me to my knees.
This is a bad thing for me, and I've also wanted to change this in myself, because as it turns out many girls with these features are the shallow insane soul sucking type, which is bad because I am the typical nice guy type.
Sexual attraction is partly genetic, partly cultural, partly social. The only way to completely change what you're attracted to is to go back and change your genes, then change the society you were born into and your place within it, and then restrict from certain forms of imagery and social conditioning. Otherwise, by the time you're even able to cognitive realise that you're attracted to things, it's already too late, and the best you can do is make peace with it.
I think at this point, after all the threads, one truth has come from this:
You have serious anxiety issues.
That's it. That's the one thing causing your problems with women. It's good you're seeking help, just keep doing it and listening and being open to discussion. Then, one day once you're over with all your issues, you can look back at all the threads you've made and laugh at how absurd you sounded.
Until then, maybe just don't try to seek a physical relationship at all. Wait until you clear your baggage before you start bringing it onto someone else.
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I'm guessing from the context of your message you are attracted to larger women, but I don't get that from your screen name. There's nothing wrong with that. You can't really control what gets you going, so just think about why you feel this is a bad thing for you to feel, when it's completely cool and natural.
This thread will probably devolve into the catastrophe most of your threads do, Windbit, but you need to see a therapist. Theres nothing wrong with being attracted to larger women. I'm attracted to girls with higher than average pitched voices. I dont know why, and i dont really care. I just accept it as just my preference and go with it.
I wish I could just like bigger girls, but to tell the truth, I'm mentally ill. I can't feel right finding any woman who is heavier, even slightly, attractive. I always hear about how too much body fat is bad for you in the media, and about a year ago I had tried to research to see if things are as bad as they make it out to be. As far as I can tell, it is.
I've started seeing a therapist again, and I just saw a psychiatrist today who wants me to change my anti-anxiety medication to something that he hopes will help me better. However, I don't think I'll ever have peace of mind liking heavier women. In fact, I don't think I'll be able to stop worrying unless I start trying to find women who are borderline underweight attractive.
I know people can't understand why I feel this way, but I do, and telling me to stop worrying won't help. I just want a way out.
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At least your preference isn't a major independent cause of heart disease, diabetes, and even some types of cancer apparently.
I'm not doing this because of society: I'm doing this because I have developed a severe obsession with body fat and health that I can't deal with anymore.
I personally think that chubbier girls are beautiful, and I'd like nothing more than to hear medical experts all of a sudden say that being slightly overweight is not a risk, but they don't. In fact, many say that it is best to be as close to the bottom of the acceptable range as possible. Whenever I look at a heavier girl now, I can't help but think that the excess body fat that gives them the shape I love is also helping to destroy their health.
The only other way I could possibly rid myself of this obsession is if I could erase my memory of anything having to do with weight and health, and trust me I'd rather do that than change what I'm attracted to. But I can't.
See a therapist.
Just don't worry about it.
At this point I almost wish you're right.
Also, I started seeing a therapist in Atlanta yesterday. My next appointment isn't until next Wednesday. I wish I could see him everyday, because honestly now I'd rather sleep straight through the week until my next appointment rather than have to wait.
Maybe I am.
Another thing is, what you think you're attracted to might not even have anything to do with what your body actually responds to. You're a virgin, so believe me, emotion goes a long way towards nudging those neural pathways over a bit. I grew up thinking that my "type" was the dark-haired, dark-eyed, clean-shaven sensitive tough guy, and I spent years nursing schoolgirl crushes on David Duchovny and Paul Gross. My boyfriend, however, is a white-skinned Irishman with wavy blond hair, blue eyes, and a fiercely red beard that would do a Viking oarsman proud, and I think he's the sexiest thing on two legs. Would I still do Christian Bale in a New York minute? Probably, because he's the goddamned Batman. But I no longer fret about finding somebody to match my idealized type, because I've already got someone perfect, and my type can just deal with that.
Stop worrying about what you're attracted to, and for the love of God, don't plan your first sexual encounter around a body type. This isn't behavioural conditioning, and you shouldn't be figuring out how many skinny girls you'll need to grind before you gain another level in your Compliance with Norms of Sexual Attraction skill.
So now in a few months we're gonna see a thread about how to change what kind of guy you are attracted to?
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If that happens I'll probably kill myself.
Probably.
You're obsessed with the health risks associated with being overweight. Let me tell you something.
I am what would be considered a plus size girl. My cholesterol is Normal, my blood glucose levels are Normal, I have a strong and healthy heart, but then again, I see my Doc at the very least once a year for a physical and blood work, and I take care of myself, I eat (pretty) healthy and exercise.... all of this and I'm still "plus size"... and healthy.
I understand you have an obsession and an irrational fear, I hope your therapy helps, I do. Understand though, that it's the girl's lifestyle and also family history that's going to dictate a lot of what you're afraid of, not purely her body type.
Drill this into your head: everyone does things that are bad for them. Everyone is going to die someday, possibly because of their bad habits but possibly not. That thicker girl you think is super-hot but in danger of heart disease? May outlive your skinny ass for years because she's healthy and you got hit by a bus due to your road-crossing habit. Stick with your therapist and stop making stupid threads about this.
If you really love someone, appearance is not so important anymore after awhile. After all, for every hot chick in the world, there's some guy who just couldn't stand her shit anymore.
In my case, there are two factors:
One, my sister is blond and was a bimbo type in high school. I was the little brother, and she beat me and made my life hell when I was younger.
Two, my first real crush was on a girl with dark hair and a dark personality. She was beautiful and rebellious. We were just slightly more than friends throughout my entire middle and high school years, but nothing serious ever came from our relationship.
So, I hate blond bimbo girls and dont find them attractive at all, while dark or auburn haired, smokey eyed independent and dangerously sexy girls bring me to my knees.
This is a bad thing for me, and I've also wanted to change this in myself, because as it turns out many girls with these features are the shallow insane soul sucking type, which is bad because I am the typical nice guy type.
You have serious anxiety issues.
That's it. That's the one thing causing your problems with women. It's good you're seeking help, just keep doing it and listening and being open to discussion. Then, one day once you're over with all your issues, you can look back at all the threads you've made and laugh at how absurd you sounded.
Until then, maybe just don't try to seek a physical relationship at all. Wait until you clear your baggage before you start bringing it onto someone else.