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Going to Poland (question about charging/electricity)

XenoXeno Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Yeah, I live in Canada and I'm going on vacation to Poland. I believe they use 220v in Poland. Anywho, I want to take my DS, cameras, trimmers, and other small stuff. Im confused as to what to buy. We got a convertor from CAA (AAA) that plugs into a Polish outlet and you can plug something into it. However, the guy said that on the charger, it should say whether it supports a higher voltage. For instance, on my Casio digital camera, the charger says 100-240V, so that would be ok to plug in. But the DS charger only says 100V so that is not ok to plug in.

1. If it says 100-240V, its ok to use in that outlet without it getting overloaded?

2. The CAA guy said only to charge things 20 minutes at a time. The fuck? It would take a whole day just to charge my camera.

3. What do I do about my DS?

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ideally you want a voltage converter, not just a plug adapter. Something like one of these:

    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2036264&cp=&pg=1&fbn=Converter%2FYes&searchSort=TRUE&f=PAD%2FPower+Converter%2FYes&fbc=1&retainProdsInSession=1&y=9&kw=voltage+converter&x=20&s=A-StorePrice-RSK&parentPage=search
    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2036265&cp=&pg=1&fbn=Converter%2FYes&searchSort=TRUE&f=PAD%2FPower+Converter%2FYes&fbc=1&retainProdsInSession=1&y=9&kw=voltage+converter&x=20&s=A-StorePrice-RSK&parentPage=search
    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062420&cp=&pg=1&fbn=Converter%2FYes&searchSort=TRUE&f=PAD%2FPower+Converter%2FYes&fbc=1&retainProdsInSession=1&y=9&kw=voltage+converter&x=20&s=A-StorePrice-RSK&parentPage=search

    The first one is for lower watt stuff, like electronics. The second is for high watt stuff like hair-dryers/etc. The third is a selectable one that has options for both electronics and higher watt stuff.

    These take the 220/240v input and step it down to 110/120v so that you can plug whatever charger or whatnot into it without worrying. If you just use a plug adapter you need to be very careful about what the charger accepts.

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ok, would something like this be ok?

    http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1762/cimg1318go5.jpg

    The black plug plugs into the socket, then I attach the hi=lo converter into that and then plug my ds in. One question though. It says on the side of the converter this. "Do Not use for computers and all other electronic equipment" So what does that mean? Its not good for my ds? Or because I have the black plug, its fine?

    Also, it says to use for only short periods of time to a maximum of three hours. So whats the cooldown time? 5 min, 30 min, hour?

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    "Do Not use for computers and all other electronic equipment"

    Oh the irony of this statement. Electronic equipment are supposed to be plugged into it... Since, you know... It's a voltage converter.

    But I think it may be talking about large electronic equipment. A computer draws a lot of juice, so maybe it can't convert it fast/efficient enough?

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    "Do Not use for computers and all other electronic equipment"

    Oh the irony of this statement. Electronic equipment are supposed to be plugged into it... Since, you know... It's a voltage converter.

    But I think it may be talking about large electronic equipment. A computer draws a lot of juice, so maybe it can't convert it fast/efficient enough?

    HAHA, I know. Yeah, the biggest thing I'm going to use is my camcorder to recharge it. So you guys think I'll be ok with what I have?

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    You would probably be better off going with one of the more powerful converters like this one here. When I went to Europe 2 years ago, I used one similar to this (made by the same company actually, but this one appears to be a newer model) and it worked fine for my DS and a little portable DVD player we had. We got it to use with a hair dryer, but the dryer had too much wattage and didnt work, so I just used it for my DS.


    Worked fine, but I was very paranoid about leaving it to charge. I left it plugged in nearby for a few hours tops and then unplugged everything to let it cool down. Once it gets cool to the touch, you should be fine to give it another go. Unfortunately, with about 2 weeks before I came back, I left my DS plugged in for too long and it blew something inside the converter. It also blew a fuse somewhere in the house, because the power went off for. Dont just plug it in and forget about it, you have to actively monitor your charging habits. No damage to the DS, but it just made me even more paranoid about power. Heck, if you want, you could always buy a DS adapter over there specifically designed for their power supplies. It should be compatible with your system, since all DS's have the same requirements.


    If the device is rated at 100-240V, then you just need an adapter that will fit the plug, not a full blown converter. If in doubt, just use the converter.


    Just curious, where exactly in Poland are you visiting?

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Bear in mind that Poland has really annoying plugs designed to anger travellers. Rather than being the standard two pin plugs they are two pins with a third spike jutting out.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    What's the plug look like on the step down converter? I can only see one prong, but is it the same plug as the black adapter? Because if so there's no reason to plug in both.

    I don't know what the difference is really, but a lot of converters don't recommend using with sensitive electronics because they're designed more for things like hair-dryers/irons/etc. This one (http://www.luggagefactory.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=S059-11007HL ) which is I believe the same one you have says it's designed for appliances and shouldn't be used for more than 30 minutes at a time (probably due to heat buildup). I don't have any direct experience with them, so I probably would tend to be more cautious and get one targeted for electronics.

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  • XenoXeno Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    1. The converter is this one. http://www.seattlestravelstore.com/gear/1010002f.html

    2. The black prong one has 2 prongs and a third hole for the other prong that mojo mentioned.

    3. You think something like this would be better? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS80730207&catid=25949 I would just pick up 2 of these so I don't have to baby the charging process as long. (2 ds's and 2 cameras would need charging)

    4. I'm going to Warsaw, Bialystok, and other places my folks know more about, haha.

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  • EverywhereasignEverywhereasign Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Keep in mind that if the "brick" on your charging unit DOES say 110-240, you just need the plug adapter, not the voltage converter. The reason the CAA guys said don't use it for more then 20 minutes is because, it CAN get warm after extensive use and it MIGHT fuck up and melt the plastic. It really really shouldn't, but it might.

    The DS not traveling well has been covered here again and again. A great solution (which I have no idea who suggested first) is to buy a USB charger for it. Most computers/laptops have 110-240 chargers so you just need the plug adapter for them.

    The DS would most likely be fine with either voltage adapter you have linked, the concern with these is voltage spikes. The cheaper they are, the more likely they could damage your DS'.

    The last option, which worked well for me in the UK, was to stop by an electronics store and buy a replacement DS charger once you land in Poland, just like here they should have no-name brand ones that will work just as well.

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Not do derail, but what happens do the device if you accidentally plug the brick in and it isn't voltage compliant? I know for a fact I blew up my 360's power brick this way a week ago in china because my fiancee insisted that the voltages were teh same and i didnt have internet to reassure me. Hope my 360 isn't a big white paperweight.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Erios wrote: »
    Not do derail, but what happens do the device if you accidentally plug the brick in and it isn't voltage compliant? I know for a fact I blew up my 360's power brick this way a week ago in china because my fiancee insisted that the voltages were teh same and i didnt have internet to reassure me. Hope my 360 isn't a big white paperweight.

    No telling for sure without being able to test the system, but in a case like this where there's an external power brick, there's at least a decent chance that your system itself is okay. The power brick probably protected the system from any crazy voltage spike or anything like that.

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  • useless4useless4 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Echoing what i said in a post a few post down:
    Buy a decent adapter for your laptop (since it's multivoltage just get an adapter for the wall) and usb charge EVERYTHING ELSE.

    One brave traveling tip for those who are reckless: The DS will charge in MOST "shaver only" outlets in hotel bathrooms. Same with a sony ebook reader (and presumably a PSP too since the bricks are very similar) I have had it trip the breaker once however and though i had lost my ds. I didn't though. Then I went usb and never looked back.

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Daenris wrote: »
    Erios wrote: »
    Not do derail, but what happens do the device if you accidentally plug the brick in and it isn't voltage compliant? I know for a fact I blew up my 360's power brick this way a week ago in china because my fiancee insisted that the voltages were teh same and i didnt have internet to reassure me. Hope my 360 isn't a big white paperweight.

    No telling for sure without being able to test the system, but in a case like this where there's an external power brick, there's at least a decent chance that your system itself is okay. The power brick probably protected the system from any crazy voltage spike or anything like that.

    Well that's good, I have a cheap OEM brick on the way. So let's pray :P.

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