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HERE'S TO YOU TURING

bongibongi regular
edited July 2008 in Social Entropy++
in all of history, only one man

has sucked dick

has helped us in a major way to win ww2

has committed suicide by the most awesome way imaginable, eating a poisoned apple

has also basically invented modern computers and thus helped us all talk to each other (or you talk to me, and thus enrich your lives)

that man

is alan turing

Alan_Turing.jpg

let's talk about how awesome alan turing is and how different the world would be without him

for a start we might not have won WW2!

so we would all be nazis, let's take a moment to think about what that would be like

bongi on
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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Salud, you apple-eating faggot.

    Defender on
  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited July 2008
    sometimes i think life would be easier if i hated all the jews

    Garlic Bread on
  • FlavabeanFlavabean Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    if we didn't have computers we would all be steam punk...
    the future that never was...

    Flavabean on
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  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Alan Turing rules

    AN AI CONSTRUCT WILL PASS THE TURING TEST BY 2029

    Tossrock on
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  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    look how cheerful he is

    that is the face of a man who is thinking

    'HA HA GODEL CAN SUCK MY DICK, COMPUTERS WILL TOTALLY PASS THE TURING TEST ONE DAY'

    bongi on
  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    one of the most shameful things my country did was persecute this man to the point of suicide for his love of dicks

    bongi on
  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited July 2008
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Alan Turing rules

    AN AI CONSTRUCT WILL PASS THE TURING TEST BY 2029

    tossrock you're a transhumanist right

    sdrawkcaB emaN on
  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yeah, it's weird to think that faggotry was outright illegal fairly recently. And in England, no less!

    Defender on
  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Alan Turing rules

    AN AI CONSTRUCT WILL PASS THE TURING TEST BY 2029

    it's pretty funny because basically the turing test ain't shit

    Orikaeshigitae on
  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Alan Turing rules

    AN AI CONSTRUCT WILL PASS THE TURING TEST BY 2029

    it's pretty funny because basically the turing test ain't shit
    i actually read the article where turing proposed the turing test today and it's a lot more subtle than most replications

    bongi on
  • FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    jeez, what an awful haircut

    FAQ on
  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited July 2008
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Alan Turing rules

    AN AI CONSTRUCT WILL PASS THE TURING TEST BY 2029

    it's pretty funny because basically the turing test ain't shit

    what is the turing test

    sdrawkcaB emaN on
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    edited July 2008
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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Alan Turing rules

    AN AI CONSTRUCT WILL PASS THE TURING TEST BY 2029

    it's pretty funny because basically the turing test ain't shit

    what is the turing test

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

    Orikaeshigitae on
  • VicVic Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Defender wrote: »
    Yeah, it's weird to think that faggotry was outright illegal fairly recently. And in England, no less!

    I heard homophobia got widespread at around that time. Before men were alot more affectionate, body contact was not taboo and all that shit.

    Just imagine all the manhugs that law cost us.

    Vic on
  • Little JimLittle Jim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    alan turing did a lot of boring things that i had to learn about

    eat a dick turing

    your machines can eat a dick too

    Little Jim on
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  • FirmSkaterFirmSkater Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I thought this was going to be about someone in a band

    e: and someone who can't spell

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Why don't you REALLY show him who's boss, Little Jim? Stop using computers.

    Defender on
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  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    babbage was a faggot who created these devil machines
    Every moment dies a man,
    Every moment 1 1/16 is born.

    bongi on
  • Burning OrganBurning Organ Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Send help.

    Locked inside Turings castle.

    Burning Organ on
  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    i liked the turing test part of the diamond age

    Orikaeshigitae on
  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    if i had a time machine i think the first thing i would do is bring turing to the year 2008 to show him what computers are like

    bongi on
  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited July 2008
    bongi wrote: »
    if i had a time machine i think the first thing i would do is bring turing to the year 2008 to show him what computers are like

    he'd be all fuuuuuuck yeah and you'd be all let's bone and then you'd bone

    sdrawkcaB emaN on
  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    bongi wrote: »
    if i had a time machine i think the first thing i would do is bring turing to the year 2008 to show him what computers are like

    he'd be all fuuuuuuck yeah and you'd be all let's bone and then you'd bone
    awww yeaaaah 8-)8-)8-)

    bongi on
  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.

    But Turing seems like he was a pretty alright guy.

    CrossBuster on
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  • StraythStrayth Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    i liked the turing test part of the diamond age

    Strayth on
    That's right.
  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.
    and your evidence that humans do anything but is...?

    bongi on
  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.

    But Turing seems like he was a pretty alright guy.

    that's what makes me laugh about it

    it doesn't actually test the intelligence of a system, just its bluffing ability

    Orikaeshigitae on
  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Alan Turing rules

    AN AI CONSTRUCT WILL PASS THE TURING TEST BY 2029

    tossrock you're a transhumanist right

    yep

    Tossrock on
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  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.

    But Turing seems like he was a pretty alright guy.

    that's what makes me laugh about it

    it doesn't actually test the intelligence of a system, just its bluffing ability
    except that the scope of the turing test is so wide that its bluffing ability is realistically beyond the ability of any programmer, so the turing test still holds

    turing explicitly states that the test is designed to seperate 'learned from rote' from an actual understanding of the questions asked

    bongi on
  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    bongi wrote: »
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.
    and your evidence that humans do anything but is...?

    Are you saying that all of the various human societies and cultures that exist, and have existed, are the result of purely mechanical processes? I don't have strict proof one way or another, but that's pretty implausible.

    CrossBuster on
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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It's spelled turning.

    Filler Inc. on
  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    bongi wrote: »
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.
    and your evidence that humans do anything but is...?

    Are you saying that all of the various human societies and cultures that exist, and have existed, are the result of purely mechanical processes? I don't have strict proof one way or another, but that's pretty implausible.

    well yeah
    souls dont exist

    Zoolander on
  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    bongi wrote: »
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.

    But Turing seems like he was a pretty alright guy.

    that's what makes me laugh about it

    it doesn't actually test the intelligence of a system, just its bluffing ability
    except that the scope of the turing test is so wide that its bluffing ability is realistically beyond the ability of any programmer, so the turing test still holds

    turing explicitly states that the test is designed to seperate 'learned from rote' from an actual understanding of the questions asked
    still doesn't actually test consciousness/intelligence, just imitation

    Orikaeshigitae on
  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Zoolander wrote: »
    bongi wrote: »
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.
    and your evidence that humans do anything but is...?

    Are you saying that all of the various human societies and cultures that exist, and have existed, are the result of purely mechanical processes? I don't have strict proof one way or another, but that's pretty implausible.

    well yeah
    souls dont exist

    I never said they do.

    Consciousness and free will don't need to have a supernatural explanation.

    CrossBuster on
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  • bongibongi regular
    edited July 2008
    bongi wrote: »
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.
    and your evidence that humans do anything but is...?

    Are you saying that all of the various human societies and cultures that exist, and have existed, are the result of purely mechanical processes? I don't have strict proof one way or another, but that's pretty implausible.
    that's exactly what i'm saying

    bongi on
  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Zoolander wrote: »
    bongi wrote: »
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.
    and your evidence that humans do anything but is...?

    Are you saying that all of the various human societies and cultures that exist, and have existed, are the result of purely mechanical processes? I don't have strict proof one way or another, but that's pretty implausible.

    well yeah
    souls dont exist

    I never said they do.
    so then everything occurs by physical processes

    Zoolander on
  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.

    But Turing seems like he was a pretty alright guy.

    Yeah, only, no.

    If you consider the test a game tree, the game complexity of an english language conversation grows faster than it would be possible to compute. Brute forcing every possible response to every possible query at every possible depth level would require more storage space than there are atoms in the observable universe. It's impossible.

    The only way to really do it is with some kind of heuristic that is capable of forming new responses, and at the point where your heuristic reaches such complexity as to be indistinguishable from intelligence, who's to say it isn't intelligence?

    Also, fuck John Searle.

    Tossrock on
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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Zoolander wrote: »
    Zoolander wrote: »
    bongi wrote: »
    If someone built a super-fast computer with a ridiculous amount of storage, and had coders spend the equivalent of many lifetimes writing its software, it could probably brute-force the Turing Test and pass.

    That doesn't mean it's any smarter than a pocket calculator.
    and your evidence that humans do anything but is...?

    Are you saying that all of the various human societies and cultures that exist, and have existed, are the result of purely mechanical processes? I don't have strict proof one way or another, but that's pretty implausible.

    well yeah
    souls dont exist

    I never said they do.
    so then everything occurs by physical processes

    I don't see how that makes free will impossible.

    CrossBuster on
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