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The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
Didn't see this on the front page but lookie what I found:
Previously, any PC user who wanted to play "ranked" games, earn online achievements or partake in cross-platform play (for games like Shadowrun, Universe at War and Lost Planet: Colonies) would have to pay the same monthly fee as normal Xbox 360 Live users for a Gold account, reagrdless if they even owned an Xbox 360 or not.
As of today, PC users will no longer be required to have said Gold account to receive the benefits of Xbox Live on the PC. Truly, this should have been the policy from the beginning, but I feel that Microsoft may be getting ready to push more games onto the PC and could not do so with most PC gamers currently loathing them for being charged for something they would receive for free from any other company (Valve, Blizzard, etc.). Anyone who has played a PC game until now would be hard pressed to even find an opponent using the ranked quick search. You'd have to search unranked games, as most users refused to pay for a Gold account.
This won't really affect most of us achievement whores out there who got into PC gaming for the extra achievements since we already have the Gold account from our 360, but this is great news for us regardless, as the more popular Games for Windows Live becomes, the more likely it will be for companies to add achievement functionality. To view a FAQ about PC gaming and a current list of Games for Windows Live games with achievements, head here.
Windows Live is their branding for different "utilities" (quotations since I can't think of any other word that fits) such as Live Mail, Live Messenger (or MSN), etc. Windows Live stuff looks like it's replacing the things which come built-in to Windows (Live Mail replaces Windows Mail/Outlook Express, Live Photo Gallery replaces Windows Photo Gallery, etc.), while Games for Windows is the branding for games which meet certain criteria (integrates with Vista Games Explorer, supports Vista Parental Controls, works on 64-bit processors, and many more I can't quite remember :P)
I think Games for Windows also has an optional thing called "Tray and Play" which lets you run the game from the disk while it's installing, but only Halo 2 has it. Would be a nice feature to see in more games, in my opinion.
Wait, so windows gamers get to basically have Xbox Live Gold accounts for free? But 360 gamers still have to pay for it?
Isn't that...fucking bullshit? Especially considering how much extra money the average 360 gamer has already given to Microsoft just to get the console online? EG - this fucking £80 wireless adapter for my 360 versus my free cable modem for my PC?
Wait, so windows gamers get to basically have Xbox Live Gold accounts for free? But 360 gamers still have to pay for it?
Isn't that...fucking bullshit? Especially considering how much extra money the average 360 gamer has already given to Microsoft just to get the console online? EG - this fucking £80 wireless adapter for my 360 versus my free cable modem for my PC?
Uh... a wired network adapter came with the 360, and you paid (presumably) for that cable modem.
Wait, so windows gamers get to basically have Xbox Live Gold accounts for free? But 360 gamers still have to pay for it?
Isn't that...fucking bullshit? Especially considering how much extra money the average 360 gamer has already given to Microsoft just to get the console online? EG - this fucking £80 wireless adapter for my 360 versus my free cable modem for my PC?
I don't see the problem. Nobody's even playing the Games for Windows Live games anyway.
Uh... a wired network adapter came with the 360, and you paid (presumably) for that cable modem.
Not really, they come gratis with your broadband in the UK. Although I forgot the 360 has a built in wired network adapter. But that's besides the point! Double standards etc. etc. yar yar rant rant.
Is there a difference between Windows Live and Games for Windows branding?
Games for Windows is different from Live. I'm not sure where they draw the line, but both Frontlines and Gears PC are branded as "Games for Windows" but only GoW requires Live to play ranked.
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Windows Live is their branding for different "utilities" (quotations since I can't think of any other word that fits) such as Live Mail, Live Messenger (or MSN), etc. Windows Live stuff looks like it's replacing the things which come built-in to Windows (Live Mail replaces Windows Mail/Outlook Express, Live Photo Gallery replaces Windows Photo Gallery, etc.), while Games for Windows is the branding for games which meet certain criteria (integrates with Vista Games Explorer, supports Vista Parental Controls, works on 64-bit processors, and many more I can't quite remember :P)
I think Games for Windows also has an optional thing called "Tray and Play" which lets you run the game from the disk while it's installing, but only Halo 2 has it. Would be a nice feature to see in more games, in my opinion.
There already is a thread about this.
Isn't that...fucking bullshit? Especially considering how much extra money the average 360 gamer has already given to Microsoft just to get the console online? EG - this fucking £80 wireless adapter for my 360 versus my free cable modem for my PC?
I don't see the problem. Nobody's even playing the Games for Windows Live games anyway.
Not really, they come gratis with your broadband in the UK. Although I forgot the 360 has a built in wired network adapter. But that's besides the point! Double standards etc. etc. yar yar rant rant.
Games for Windows is different from Live. I'm not sure where they draw the line, but both Frontlines and Gears PC are branded as "Games for Windows" but only GoW requires Live to play ranked.