Linespider5ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGERRegistered Userregular
edited January 2011
That's a really impressive and mostly dynamic illustration, especially for Ross, but I can't shake the feeling that Superman is gonna kill the fuck out of all three guys with that car.
I could have sworn that was the cover to one of the issues under James Robinson's Superman run. Maybe it was one they intended to use, but then set it aside as a stock cover.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
I could have sworn that was the cover to one of the issues under James Robinson's Superman run. Maybe it was one they intended to use, but then set it aside as a stock cover.
Yes! That's where I remembered it from. I think it was supposed to be the original cover to Superman #675 or 676, right before Robinson's run started.
Gotta say, I don't much care for that cover. Probably because I have no idea what's going on.
Did Superman lift up a car and find a dude with a gun underneath it? Is he smashing the dude with the gun? Is he ignoring the dude with the gun and assaulting someone's vehicle? I honestly can't tell what the idea is that the picture is trying to convey.
Gotta say, I don't much care for that cover. Probably because I have no idea what's going on.
Did Superman lift up a car and find a dude with a gun underneath it? Is he smashing the dude with the gun? Is he ignoring the dude with the gun and assaulting someone's vehicle? I honestly can't tell what the idea is that the picture is trying to convey.
It's an alternate history story set in the 60's - Superman is helping America win the Space Race by throwing the car into orbit. The other guys are Soviet sleeper agents sent to stop him with kryptonite bullets. Duh.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
Gotta say, I don't much care for that cover. Probably because I have no idea what's going on.
Did Superman lift up a car and find a dude with a gun underneath it? Is he smashing the dude with the gun? Is he ignoring the dude with the gun and assaulting someone's vehicle? I honestly can't tell what the idea is that the picture is trying to convey.
Going by one of the comments at the DCU Source blog, the cover was to tie into the original story for Superman #676, which dealt with the guy in the bottom left corner and his point of view in seeing Superman for the first time. But it was replaced with a Alan Scott Solomon Grundy story that was originally commissioned for Superman: Confidential. So it looks like it's supposed to be a normal person's first encounter with a meta. Although that car he tossed in the air looks like it will come down right on the car lighting up Superman in the background...
Chris Roberson's first issue of Superman was, shall we say, interesting. It starts with a visual homage to the classic "faster than a speeding bullet/more powerful than a locomotive/able to leap tall buildings in a single bound" tagline, and then moves into a story about Superman settling a dispute between a factory that's polluting the environment, and Lois Lane, who's trying to reveal the truth. At which point Superman decides the factory jobs are too important to the well-being of the town, and not only will he not help Lois bring the story to light, but he'll actually stop her from publishing it. He says all this while grabbing her by the arm and giving her that scary, Lifetime Original Movie abusive husband stare-down.
???
But then--
--members of the Superman Squad show up, and ask Superman if he's been feeling weird lately.
The going theory is that Roberson is retconning the past few months, as Superman legitimately losing his mind, or having some kind of breakdown. Lois even quips that he's acting like he's under the effects of Red Kryptonite.
I have to say, I'm not really interested enough to keep reading, but it was an improvement over what I've read of JMS's Superman. Primarily because Roberson seems intent on undermining the whole Grounded concept. Within the first three pages, Lois makes fun of Superman using a cellphone, asking why he doesn't just use his super-hearing and super-ventriloquism to talk to her. Actually, Roberson's Lois seems to be the voice of the skeptical reader, in a lot of ways.
But Roberson's also embracing a very Silver Age aesthetic, not just by giving nods to super-ventriloquism and Red Kryptonite, or using the Superman Squad, but by using things like thought balloons. I mean, the issue has Superman making a tornado, which carries water to a burning factory. That's old school cartoon shit.
I hesitate to call this issue good, but if Roberson's going where I think he is with this, it could end up being an interesting subversion of what JMS was doing.
Actually, I tried reading Roberson's Batman/Superman issues, and it's got the same aesthetic with the choppy dialogue and the thought balloons. I actually had to put it down after a few pages.
Still, if that's the direction, it's very interesting, but at the same time, I thought this was supposed to be sticking entirely to JMS's notes.
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited January 2011
Everything read like it was JMS' plan until the last two pages. And the environment/business angle was Captain Planet levels of bias, making Superman's decision even more stupid.
While I wouldn't be opposed to what Munch spoilered in order to make Grounded never happen, I would much rather this all be Parasite's fault. and just never bring it up again. Or this could be a multiverse earth that is subsequently destroyed during Flashpoint.
Superman's decision on the environmental angle is a believably bad JMS decision. "I feel bad for the fishes, but we're okay!" as if all pollution does is kill fish and has no ripple effect.
I was absolutely bored with the thought balloon style and the hokey cliche tasks. Everything up to the environmentalist argument reads like one of those free comic books that comes with DC brand popsicles, or something. Putting out a factory fire is the kind of conflict that children would write into a comic, I don't know why it had to be so by the numbers. Unless they're aiming for something really meta.
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Garlic Breadi'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm aRegistered User, Disagreeableregular
edited January 2011
I'm liking Cornell's Action Comics a lot, but I just can't get over that Lois robot. It's completely ridiculous, way past creepy, and doesn't seem like something Lex would do (or at least take out in public like he does)
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
I'm liking Cornell's Action Comics a lot, but I just can't get over that Lois robot. It's completely ridiculous, way past creepy, and doesn't seem like something Lex would do (or at least take out in public like he does)
I don't really know what kind of Luthor we're supposed to have after Infinite Crisis. He's no longer the brilliant evil businessman but somewhere between mad scientist and almost a nerd like awkwardness who no longer was married or had a daughter or was seen as a playboy in the same vein of Bruce Wayne.
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited January 2011
Booster Gold foresaw Lois robot and Max killing Ted in 80's panels!
Well that was when he was in his chubby 80's motif, wait until he trimmed down after getting acquitted and before becoming President. And I'm pretty sure Hope and Mercy were more than just bodyguards.
And who can compete with Booster Gold, really? That's unfair. Not even Bruce or Dick are at that level (and in B&R's last arc Cornell kind of made the point Bruce didn't even sleep with all those women on his shoulders, which I found interesting).
Oh, it's totally sketchy and weird. But I also can kind of understand it. Lois has been a thorn in his side for years, and for a guy like Lex, who isn't used to people screwing with him, I could see him developing an attraction to her. But at the same time, he can just shut her down any time she starts to bug him, which meshes with his insecurity and desire to always be in control.
Plus, Lois is off on her tour through America with Superman, so I imagine it's easier for Lex to pass off his robot as the real thing.
Oh, it's totally sketchy and weird. But I also can kind of understand it. Lois has been a thorn in his side for years, and for a guy like Lex, who isn't used to people screwing with him, I could see him developing an attraction to her. But at the same time, he can just shut her down any time she starts to bug him, which meshes with his insecurity and desire to always be in control.
Plus, Lois is off on her tour through America with Superman, so I imagine it's easier for Lex to pass off his robot as the real thing.
That's a pretty good explanation.
Also, the Lois-bot clearly has her own agenda, and we'll probably learn more about her creation as that agenda is revealed. Maybe that will help explain why Lex made her.
Anyone else read the last issue? I was confused by the ending.
Did Robo-Lois push Spalding, or did the Joker? Also, loved the Doctor Who reference.
I believe she did push him in, going by the panel before with her ominous gleaming eye, and then Joker looking at her after Spalding got eated by the sphere. I think she expected something different, which is why she went "oh...oh no"
I do wonder if Batman would go after the Joker if Lex killed him, though.
Anyone else read the last issue? I was confused by the ending.
Did Robo-Lois push Spalding, or did the Joker? Also, loved the Doctor Who reference.
I believe she did push him in, going by the panel before with her ominous gleaming eye, and then Joker looking at her after Spalding got eated by the sphere. I think she expected something different, which is why she went "oh...oh no"
I do wonder if Batman would go after the Joker if Lex killed him, though.
Lois pushed him in, but Joker took the blame. He probably realized that Lois had her own hidden agenda from Lex, and didn't want to spoil it. It's funnier that way.
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Garlic Breadi'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm aRegistered User, Disagreeableregular
edited January 2011
I did like that Pete Woods added the mouth-scars and bullet wound from Morrison's Batman run to the Joker
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TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited February 2011
Who is the one character missing in that photo? That's right, Krypto vs. Doomsday (Supergirl looks less knocked out and more fall down drunk for that cover)
And worth noting is that in the Superman 80 page giant on sale Wednesday Paul Tobin and Colleen Coover doing a Lois Lane story, should be a treat.
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Steel is probably going to die
If Pete Woods just referenced the "WTF Piccard" meme for Superman's reaction, that would be perfect.
I swear I've seen this before, used for another promo piece or something. And again it's a darker cover for such an historic anniversary issue.
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...Is that Dan Didio on the left?
Yes! That's where I remembered it from. I think it was supposed to be the original cover to Superman #675 or 676, right before Robinson's run started.
Did Superman lift up a car and find a dude with a gun underneath it? Is he smashing the dude with the gun? Is he ignoring the dude with the gun and assaulting someone's vehicle? I honestly can't tell what the idea is that the picture is trying to convey.
It's an alternate history story set in the 60's - Superman is helping America win the Space Race by throwing the car into orbit. The other guys are Soviet sleeper agents sent to stop him with kryptonite bullets. Duh.
Going by one of the comments at the DCU Source blog, the cover was to tie into the original story for Superman #676, which dealt with the guy in the bottom left corner and his point of view in seeing Superman for the first time. But it was replaced with a Alan Scott Solomon Grundy story that was originally commissioned for Superman: Confidential. So it looks like it's supposed to be a normal person's first encounter with a meta. Although that car he tossed in the air looks like it will come down right on the car lighting up Superman in the background...
I was thinking either him or Jim Cramer.
???
But then--
The going theory is that Roberson is retconning the past few months, as Superman legitimately losing his mind, or having some kind of breakdown. Lois even quips that he's acting like he's under the effects of Red Kryptonite.
I have to say, I'm not really interested enough to keep reading, but it was an improvement over what I've read of JMS's Superman. Primarily because Roberson seems intent on undermining the whole Grounded concept. Within the first three pages, Lois makes fun of Superman using a cellphone, asking why he doesn't just use his super-hearing and super-ventriloquism to talk to her. Actually, Roberson's Lois seems to be the voice of the skeptical reader, in a lot of ways.
But Roberson's also embracing a very Silver Age aesthetic, not just by giving nods to super-ventriloquism and Red Kryptonite, or using the Superman Squad, but by using things like thought balloons. I mean, the issue has Superman making a tornado, which carries water to a burning factory. That's old school cartoon shit.
I hesitate to call this issue good, but if Roberson's going where I think he is with this, it could end up being an interesting subversion of what JMS was doing.
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Still, if that's the direction, it's very interesting, but at the same time, I thought this was supposed to be sticking entirely to JMS's notes.
While I wouldn't be opposed to what Munch spoilered in order to make Grounded never happen, I would much rather this all be Parasite's fault. and just never bring it up again. Or this could be a multiverse earth that is subsequently destroyed during Flashpoint.
Superman's decision on the environmental angle is a believably bad JMS decision. "I feel bad for the fishes, but we're okay!" as if all pollution does is kill fish and has no ripple effect.
I was absolutely bored with the thought balloon style and the hokey cliche tasks. Everything up to the environmentalist argument reads like one of those free comic books that comes with DC brand popsicles, or something. Putting out a factory fire is the kind of conflict that children would write into a comic, I don't know why it had to be so by the numbers. Unless they're aiming for something really meta.
Superman is like, "YOU TOLD ME BEAR STEARNS WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT!
LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN REMEMBER WHERE YOU PARKED NOW, CRAMER!"
There's zero chance that's not intentional.
I don't really know what kind of Luthor we're supposed to have after Infinite Crisis. He's no longer the brilliant evil businessman but somewhere between mad scientist and almost a nerd like awkwardness who no longer was married or had a daughter or was seen as a playboy in the same vein of Bruce Wayne.
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Well that was when he was in his chubby 80's motif, wait until he trimmed down after getting acquitted and before becoming President. And I'm pretty sure Hope and Mercy were more than just bodyguards.
And who can compete with Booster Gold, really? That's unfair. Not even Bruce or Dick are at that level (and in B&R's last arc Cornell kind of made the point Bruce didn't even sleep with all those women on his shoulders, which I found interesting).
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It's that it's a Lois android.
Naturally. When you don't have a collar, girls don't holla, yo.
edit: on the subject of Lois-bot, a preview page from 897 where Lex meets the Joker:
Cornell writing Joker should be a treat.
Plus, Lois is off on her tour through America with Superman, so I imagine it's easier for Lex to pass off his robot as the real thing.
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That's a pretty good explanation.
Also, the Lois-bot clearly has her own agenda, and we'll probably learn more about her creation as that agenda is revealed. Maybe that will help explain why Lex made her.
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I do wonder if Batman would go after the Joker if Lex killed him, though.
Who is the one character missing in that photo? That's right, Krypto vs. Doomsday (Supergirl looks less knocked out and more fall down drunk for that cover)
And worth noting is that in the Superman 80 page giant on sale Wednesday Paul Tobin and Colleen Coover doing a Lois Lane story, should be a treat.
Never before have I seen such a thing!
Seriously, it's a great drawing, but c'mon Rocafort. You're better than that.
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