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So far I'm going for the no smoking while in the house, and given my unemployed status I spend most of the day in the house. No patches though, last time I used them I was really, really ill.
Wish me luck!
Perhaps it was their life to live? Even if someone makes perfect decisions they are still going to die. For me spending my time doing things I enjoy trumps spending my time avoiding the things I enjoy just to spend more time avoiding the things I enjoy.
In this instance you're suggesting that smoking a cigarette is far more enjoyable then, say, living to see the birth of your grandchildren?
Look, I get what you mean, and it's good to take risks and get the best out of life and not worry about every little detail. Everyone's going to die, and sometimes shortening your lifespan is worth it for the quality that it will bring to your life. Some trade offs, however, are just stupid. I don't really want to tell you how to live, but after seeing what happens to people who underestimate the pain they're going to end up putting everyone who loves them through, I am going to make sure you understand how retarded the decision you're making is. It's just plain ridiculous, it's a horrible trade off.
Basically, I can't stop you from driving the wrong way on the highway for kicks, but I can tell you that it's just dumb and in doing so you're going to get people hurt.
Let's face it, there is no good reason not to quit smoking besides for the fact that it would be inconvenient and you won't feel good for a few days. I can not comprehend how smoking a pack of cigarettes could be worth years of your life. Hang gliding is worth years of your life, sky diving maybe, base jumping and driving really fast, I can see the appeal in dangerous activities. But smoking? Seriously?
Besides, it's gonna go in one ear and go out the other.
Or not even go in.
I am, for serious, quitting. Gave the rest of my pack away Wednesday night. I managed to get through all day yesterday (and much of the night before) without any cigarettes, but sort of fell off the wagon and had one just a few minutes ago due to job stress. It'll certainly be my only one today, and I'm hoping to make it over the weekend without any.
Pay people to quit smoking (and make nicorette free).
The logic is that you save money on government medical expenses in the long run.
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Oh god, he never updated.
When he stopped smoking he died.
In my defense I was very very drunk.
I want to quit somewhere ahead of time, but I don't want to quit right now.
I really don't want to quit...this is probably the main problem.
But, good luck to all those who try, even if you fail, at least you're trying. And extra huzzah!'s for those who succeed.
I've been a social smoker for the last year or so, and I should probably cut that out. I do have a pack of cigarettes in my apartment, but I only smoke whenever I drink and am in the company of other smokers. I think I average around 10 or 15 a month, but it's really about time I stop all together.
I like to drink a lot. I also smoke pot. Whenever I'm stoned or drunk, I like to have cigarettes. I think out of all of my friends.... maybe 4 of them don't smoke and I have a lot of friends. My little brother smoked, but he quit. My friends and I are always drinking. We go to shows, we go to bars, we hang out and play darts. We drink, and that means that I smoke. Even if I wasn't planning on smoking I usually do when I'm hanging out with my friends.... and my friends are all pretty generous so they don't mind bumming me smokes. We just went to a college town around here (Athens... where UGA is) and got wasted last night for Halloween. There were tons of cigarettes there. My friend brought 4 damn packs and had me carry them because he didn't have any pockets. Of course, it didn't help that I was a spy from TF2 so I constantly wanted a cig in my mouth to make the costume look complete. So basically, if I'm hanging out with my friends there will be smoking.
I want to quit because it fucks up my body. I know drinking probably fucks up my body as well, but I can't help thinking that my nose is stuffy right now because I smoke. I know that I am coughing a lot because I smoke. I know that I am breathing heavily after walking to class because I smoke. It smells and when I come into my house I am always cautious around my parents so they don't find out... it's kinda sad really. I can't even hug my Mom really because I'm paranoid she'll smell me (even if I haven't smoked in hours) and while she probably won't say anything she'll be sad that I smell like smoke. I want to quit because I want to be healthy. I want to work out and have a nice body.... right now it's not bad but I know it can be better... I just have no motivation... never really have even way before I started smoking.... but I think I might be more motivated if I wasn't a smoker. I want to quit because I like to smell nice. I put on cologne and I use body wash in the shower but when I smoke the nice smells get overridden by the nasty smoke smell.
I've been doing decently well. On Wednesday I hung out at my house by myself. I didn't drink or smoke cigarettes. I did smoke pot and use dip though (dip is good because I don't smell, it's cheap and it lasts me a much longer time... and of course gives my lungs a break). A normal day usually consists of dipping on the way too and from school, getting home and either going to a friends house or having a friend come over to my house (or going out.. say to a bar) and that usually consists of smoking. Hell, sometimes I even look forward to going to bars or whatever just so I can have a cigarette.
I dunno, it's a shitty addiction and I wish I could just quit so I stop being sick and stuffy and generally feeling like shit all the time. I have tons of great reasons to quit, but I also have so many people around me smoking that its nearly impossible to just up and quit when I'm around it all the time. Its a fucking catch 22. If I want to quit I pretty much have to stop hanging out with those friends... but those friends are really my life. I love these fucking guys. I dunno... should I just keep dipping until more of them quit? (A few have either quit or significantly slowed down) Should I take two weeks off from them and kick the habit? Should I just try to limit myself better, cutting down day after day? Go cool turkey before I go cold turkey?
Anyway, I just wanted to get my thoughts down... off my shoulders. Sorry this is so long and babbling, but I think this is a really good thread idea.
When you're pressing someone to do something they don't want to do, it's not called "support". It's also not likely to work. The only real required characteristic for someone to successfully quit smoking is they have to want to. If that's not there, it won't happen. If it is there, it's still not super-easy or anything but it can be done.
She did want to quit. She said that she really didn't want to smoke, but it was the only thing that she knew to deal with pressures of work and life. It's not like I hassled her into the ground, I just encouraged her to note when she smoked,and try to plan on removing one or two if she could. I think it's fair to call helping someone whose viewpoint is obscured by their circumstance out of said circumstance support, though that's not the direction that this thread needs to move towards.
It's kind of scary thinking I'm going to quit, but I realized in the long run it will be better for me.
So if everything goes to plan, I will be not smoking any cigarettes on the 20th of November.
I won't probably post anything during the beginning, but once I get around to 3-4 cigarettes a day I'll be going crazy and posting here.
Any support is appreciated.
But i also want to have a good time and not be grouchy. So I'm on the patch. I'm debating whether I will continue to buy patches when I get back to the states or if I will go back to smoking. If I do stay on the patch it will not be short term, I need some sort of nicotine with the job I have or I will shoot people. The patch is more expensive than cigarettes (damnit) but also about 37326 million times more healthy. So maybe I'll just use it for a long time, I dunno.
With long-term use the patch is still going to give you all the problems nicotine in cigarettes gives you. Bad blood-pressure, crappy arteries, dramatically increased risk of stroke and heart-attack.
That's not what I've read about non-tobacco nicotine replacement.
Here's what the Mayo Clinic website has to say about it.
I'll look again, but I don't remember the vehicle being as much the problem as delivering nicotine to the bloodstream in general. Patch is also bad if you're pregnant, but that doesn't seem likely in your case. Could it be a matter of whether you use the patch to quit and thus are only on it temporarily versus just using it to give yourself nicotine forever?
Nicotine is the addictive part of tobacco, but it's not the really harmful part. The amount of nicotine you get from any over the counter nicotine-replacement product is apparently much less than smoking, and hence the blood pressure problems are not there. The risk of stroke and heart disease are apparently not caused by nicotine, but by the many other awful things in cigarettes (which explains why dip doesn't carry exactly the same risks as cigarette smoking).
The elevated blood-pressure will still be there, but not to the same extent. Apparently the carbon monoxide is the bigger contributor to most of the stuff nicotine does, but nicotine does do some of it too. If you find some kind of study on long-term patch use link it, I always like to know as much as possible about the myriad ways I'm slowly killing myself.
For me, controlling when I smoked was step one, then step two was just reducing the instances where I allowed myself to smoke.
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I don't remember the sound of his voice, though. He had a laryngectomy, which, in case you don't know, is where they remove your voice box, and you breathe through a hole in your throat. To speak, you use a little handheld machine called an agitator, which makes you sounds kinda like a robotic frog.
He had quit by then, but some people keep smoking after the procedure, through their stoma.
He had about half of a lung removed when he got cancer again, which really limited the options the next time he developed lung cancer.
Quitting's a pretty good idea. I endorse it.
So I've kinda sorta been on a smoking hiatus since the election now. Since last tuesday the nicotine dreams have come and gone and I've actually started dreaming, which didn't seem to happen while smoking. The downside to this is that my eating habits have gotten much worse, especially during a cig craving. Also, and this might be just because of the winter, but I've had several minor little illnesses during the past week, like sinus pressure and minor headaches.
I'm not really sure where to go from here. There's a pack in my car.
Fuck Chantix.
I just took my last pill for week 2. Yeah, my smoking cravings have gone down considerably but I'm an emotional fucking trainwreck. I may have ruined things with a very special woman to me. And last but not least I'm so goddamned emo right now it's making me sick.
Stay the fuck away from this drug.
Results may vary.
I have quit. I am calling it successful after being tobacco free since November and nicotine free since mid December.
I used the patch as nicotine replacement. The weird dreaming side effect was not as intense this time (compared to the last time I tried the patch years ago). My digestion and bowel habits have not recovered, and I am miserable. I'll spare you all the details.
Results did vary. I've been a miserable pile for a few days. I mean miserable in the way you need a damn support group miserable. My shits been off the radar, emotion-wise, and I don't recall me ever being depressed earlier in life.
And thank you for sparing the bowel thing, because... well yeah. Let's just say thank you.
This is a little like asking if hitting yourself in the head with a hammer is as bad for you as hitting yourself in the head with a tire iron.
They're both bad. One is more likely to give you mouth cancer, the other is more likely to give you lung cancer.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
People who only smoke a pipe tend to smoke a whole lot less. Basically if you're only smoking two or three times a week it is very unlikely that anything bad will happen to you before you die anyway. If you smoke a pipe twenty times a day you basically might as well be smoking Camel non-filters. As long as you're smoking tobacco it's bad for you, but how bad depends how much and how often.
Yeah, very true. That's the thing about cigarettes; they're the fast-food version of tobacco. They're produced and packaged in a way that makes it easy to consume them rapidly without thinking about it.
There's probably something to be said for buying natural additive-free tobacco versus cheap tobacco with added tar and other synthetic shit. It's all bad for you, but some is definitely worse than others.
I just hate saying things like that because somebody takes it mean "oh, I'm fine, I smoke a pipe, I won't get cancer!" when it all it really means is that you're getting cancer a little more slowly.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.