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It's weird being on this side of the thing, but I need to lock down my in-law's computer so their nephew can't surf porn on it. They don't know he's doing it, but it's a matter of time and I'd just as soon save everyone the discomfort.
Any recommendations on how this can be done effectively?
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edited July 2008
Any pre-teen will find a way around any sort of block that you would be able to put on it. Most porn blockers are an obstacle rather then an all out block.
Just man up and talk to him about it. Yeah, he's not your kid, so don't be condescending like a parent. Have a real talk with him.
Just tell him it's cool to look at porn or whatever, but it's stupid to look at it on someone else's computer because if he gets caught he'll be in deep shit or at least a very awkward position.
Any pre-teen will find a way around any sort of block that you would be able to put on it. Most porn blockers are an obstacle rather then an all out block.
Actually i can't really believe this, there are a great number of people and kids that are stumped if even the littlest thing on their pc/the internet doesn't go like they figure it will. That being said, wanting to look at rude titties is a great motivator to learn.
Actually, you can use opendns.com to do exactly this, plus in my experience this has made my internet faster for some reason.
Opendns is a good solution. A very clever preteen would figure out what's up, I know I would've at that age (So humble too) but it's certainly one of the more elegant solutions around.
I'd talk to him - yes, it might be uncomfortable for a bit, but he'll know something is up when he can't access the sites he is used to accessing - better you tell him than him worrying your in-laws have found out and blocked access themselves.
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Just man up and talk to him about it. Yeah, he's not your kid, so don't be condescending like a parent. Have a real talk with him.
Just tell him it's cool to look at porn or whatever, but it's stupid to look at it on someone else's computer because if he gets caught he'll be in deep shit or at least a very awkward position.
Education always works better than just saying "no".
Porn blockers are like sexual abstinence programs... do you really think teenagers won't find a way?
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Log all sites visited and then ask some embarrassing questions re: surfing habits.
If anything, this is essential in case he denies it, so that you'll be able to mention what they look at online to alert them that it isn't a hidden thing. From there you can probably maneuver into an open discussion.
If they don't have their own computer yet, which seems to be the problem here, then maybe offer to get them a magazine once in awhile (Maxim at the very least, or just some swimsuit catalogs depending on age)? Kind of an odd thing to do these days, but it has its uses. That way if you make it nigh impossible to check sites on the computer, they'll have an outlet that is both useful and still able to be done away from anyone's prying eyes.
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what are people's porn rights anyway? I appreciated internet porn probably most when I first viewed it. I was curious enough to look it up at probably age 10 or so. I mean, I dont know, I wouldn't have wanted me back then to get blocked..
I would agree with all of those who say that he will get around it; I did. The best bet is to put the computer in a family location. However, if he's going to do it, he's going to do it.
I'm going to have to ask why you need to help them"avoid discomfort."?
It truly is a matter for the child's perents. The best thing to do is to tell them, simple as that. Then give them any suggestions you found useful from this thread.
Is there some reason you can't tell the perents? Are you afraid the child will recieve some overly-severe punishment? I, and I'm sure the rest of the posters, are just not understanding the circumstances is all.
Just man up and talk to him about it. Yeah, he's not your kid, so don't be condescending like a parent. Have a real talk with him.
Just tell him it's cool to look at porn or whatever, but it's stupid to look at it on someone else's computer because if he gets caught he'll be in deep shit or at least a very awkward position.
Education always works better than just saying "no".
Porn blockers are like sexual abstinence programs... do you really think teenagers won't find a way?
I don't care if he finds a way.
I just want him to stop finding his way to a computer in his aunts house in a room with a door that doesn't shut and windows without curtains, on the ground level near a road, while my wife is wandering around in the next room making dinner.
It's just so deeply inappropriate. Kid needs to hit up the computer at his house at three in the morning like every other teenager.
Fifteen? Um. The phrase 'Too Late' springs to mind.
I'd go with logger and educational chat. Or you know, get a lock for the computer room door, make sure theres a nearby wastebasket and set limits as to usertimes.
I dunno which way you want to go on this. Free porn is better than hijacking the top shelf at the local Gas'nGo.
Edit: Ahhhh. The plot thickens. I assumed he lived with you. Yah. Just bust him. At least he'll be more discreet.
While I thought this infracted post was a fair question for the OP, I think it could have been worded a tiny bit better.
Yeah I talked It over with Tube, via a few PMs he made a good point, my wording was wrong and wasn't helpful or adviceful. I was basically trying to get the whole story before I gave advice.
Now that I have the whole story, that it is your house. then yeah blocking it seems to be making an end run around confrontation. You are the adult here, I'd basically soften up your post that explained the circumstances. (open curtains, people in the next room, etc.) Set verbal boundaries for the kid, let him know what is inappropriate. Blocking it doesn't give him the lesson he needs to learn, and that many kids don't learn until adulthood, which is that he doesn't live in a bubble. He cohabitates a bubble with billions of people. Sometimes he should think of them too.
My boyfriend's dad used cybersitter, which not only blocked but also monitered 'inappropriate sites'. His dad was extremely computer savvy however, so I'm sure if it would be easy for you to use or what computer skills you have.
frankly i thought it was a bad idea. He found ways around it when he could, or I would email him porn or whatnot. His family has this paralyzing fear of talking about sex, and especially because he was gay and closeted at the time, I think sitting down and talking about what porn exactly is would help. I'm going to have to agree with the 'too late' camp, and in my mind this is perfect uncle territory (assuming the parents would be okay with it).
I just want him to stop finding his way to a computer in his aunts house in a room with a door that doesn't shut and windows without curtains, on the ground level near a road, while my wife is wandering around in the next room making dinner.
It's funny how the advice you get is different when you miss out critical points of information in the OP, isn't it?
Kid needs to be talked to by his parents. He obviously doesn't give a shit about being embarrassed, or he sure as hell wouldn't do it.
Give him a link to a safe, streaming porn site? He's going to look at it regardless. You did, I do. Casual Eddy will. It's just a part of growing up. You might as well let it go on and protect the computer.
Just man up and talk to him about it. Yeah, he's not your kid, so don't be condescending like a parent. Have a real talk with him.
Just tell him it's cool to look at porn or whatever, but it's stupid to look at it on someone else's computer because if he gets caught he'll be in deep shit or at least a very awkward position.
Education always works better than just saying "no".
Porn blockers are like sexual abstinence programs... do you really think teenagers won't find a way?
I don't care if he finds a way.
I just want him to stop finding his way to a computer in his aunts house in a room with a door that doesn't shut and windows without curtains, on the ground level near a road, while my wife is wandering around in the next room making dinner.
It's just so deeply inappropriate. Kid needs to hit up the computer at his house at three in the morning like every other teenager.
Give him a link to a safe, streaming porn site? He's going to look at it regardless. You did, I do. Casual Eddy will. It's just a part of growing up. You might as well let it go on and protect the computer.
His problem isn't that the nephew is looking at porn, it's that the kid is looking at porn in his house during inappropriate times and in an inappropriate way.
That's why I thought it might be the best approach. There's no way to say "that crazy router just reset itself all of a sudden, I don't know what happened". It's also very easy to set up, and the only way to change the content filtering is to know the username and password for the opendns site itself that is used for your account. The only drawback is that the filtering can be a tad too aggressive sometimes. You'll probably have to add some of your usual surfing sites to the allowed list, simply because of some of the topics discussed.
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Just tell him it's cool to look at porn or whatever, but it's stupid to look at it on someone else's computer because if he gets caught he'll be in deep shit or at least a very awkward position.
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Actually i can't really believe this, there are a great number of people and kids that are stumped if even the littlest thing on their pc/the internet doesn't go like they figure it will. That being said, wanting to look at rude titties is a great motivator to learn.
Opendns is a good solution. A very clever preteen would figure out what's up, I know I would've at that age (So humble too) but it's certainly one of the more elegant solutions around.
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Education always works better than just saying "no".
Porn blockers are like sexual abstinence programs... do you really think teenagers won't find a way?
That's a good one - lots of thru traffic, and the screen pointed toward the middle of the room.
If anything, this is essential in case he denies it, so that you'll be able to mention what they look at online to alert them that it isn't a hidden thing. From there you can probably maneuver into an open discussion.
If they don't have their own computer yet, which seems to be the problem here, then maybe offer to get them a magazine once in awhile (Maxim at the very least, or just some swimsuit catalogs depending on age)? Kind of an odd thing to do these days, but it has its uses. That way if you make it nigh impossible to check sites on the computer, they'll have an outlet that is both useful and still able to be done away from anyone's prying eyes.
Be prepared to counterattack if he uses the "a lot of porn sites will just pop-up sometimes without you looking for them" defense.
Weak yeah, but it got me out of a tight corner one time when I was a wee lad...
It truly is a matter for the child's perents. The best thing to do is to tell them, simple as that. Then give them any suggestions you found useful from this thread.
Is there some reason you can't tell the perents? Are you afraid the child will recieve some overly-severe punishment? I, and I'm sure the rest of the posters, are just not understanding the circumstances is all.
While I thought this infracted post was a fair question for the OP, I think it could have been worded a tiny bit better.
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Fifteen.
I don't care if he finds a way.
I just want him to stop finding his way to a computer in his aunts house in a room with a door that doesn't shut and windows without curtains, on the ground level near a road, while my wife is wandering around in the next room making dinner.
It's just so deeply inappropriate. Kid needs to hit up the computer at his house at three in the morning like every other teenager.
I'd go with logger and educational chat. Or you know, get a lock for the computer room door, make sure theres a nearby wastebasket and set limits as to usertimes.
I dunno which way you want to go on this. Free porn is better than hijacking the top shelf at the local Gas'nGo.
Edit: Ahhhh. The plot thickens. I assumed he lived with you. Yah. Just bust him. At least he'll be more discreet.
Yeah I talked It over with Tube, via a few PMs he made a good point, my wording was wrong and wasn't helpful or adviceful. I was basically trying to get the whole story before I gave advice.
Now that I have the whole story, that it is your house. then yeah blocking it seems to be making an end run around confrontation. You are the adult here, I'd basically soften up your post that explained the circumstances. (open curtains, people in the next room, etc.) Set verbal boundaries for the kid, let him know what is inappropriate. Blocking it doesn't give him the lesson he needs to learn, and that many kids don't learn until adulthood, which is that he doesn't live in a bubble. He cohabitates a bubble with billions of people. Sometimes he should think of them too.
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frankly i thought it was a bad idea. He found ways around it when he could, or I would email him porn or whatnot. His family has this paralyzing fear of talking about sex, and especially because he was gay and closeted at the time, I think sitting down and talking about what porn exactly is would help. I'm going to have to agree with the 'too late' camp, and in my mind this is perfect uncle territory (assuming the parents would be okay with it).
It's funny how the advice you get is different when you miss out critical points of information in the OP, isn't it?
Kid needs to be talked to by his parents. He obviously doesn't give a shit about being embarrassed, or he sure as hell wouldn't do it.
The porn blocker... it will do nothing.
So tell him that.
If you implement it at the router level, the only way it can be circumvented is for him to reset the router to clear your admin password.
http://www.opendns.com/features/content_filtering/
His problem isn't that the nephew is looking at porn, it's that the kid is looking at porn in his house during inappropriate times and in an inappropriate way.
That's why I thought it might be the best approach. There's no way to say "that crazy router just reset itself all of a sudden, I don't know what happened". It's also very easy to set up, and the only way to change the content filtering is to know the username and password for the opendns site itself that is used for your account. The only drawback is that the filtering can be a tad too aggressive sometimes. You'll probably have to add some of your usual surfing sites to the allowed list, simply because of some of the topics discussed.