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RoboCop Reboot: Coming 2010 (Guess who's directing)
jungleroomx
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Here's a quick synopsis of the new RoboCop movie.
Aronofsky is directing.
It's a complete reboot of the original, exploring the same themes.
I'm quite interested.
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1591705/story.jhtml
Aronofsky is directing.
It's a complete reboot of the original, exploring the same themes.
I'm quite interested.
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1591705/story.jhtml
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man, this could be awesome
In the original, Murphy visits his old house after being transformed into Robocop and sees everything he lost. I can totally see that being an overall mood through the whole movie.
If there's one thing Aronofsky can do, it's chokingly bleak depression.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Fair enough. I do see this getting made, however, trying to ride the same gravy train as TDK.
I just find the comparisons interesting considering Aronofsky's own involvement in the project that eventually came to be known as Batman Begins.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It could have that resonance, though, if done right. There's an interesting story to be had about how the state needs to turn a human being into a robot in order to project it's will, for instance, or the line between a person's responsibility to operate within the social order and their responsibility to uphold their own conscience even when it requires them to combat the status quo. I think Aronofsky could do it right, if he doesn't go completely off his rocker.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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How the hell do you update robocop, give him an ipod white outer shell?
AIBOcop.
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I actually had no idea Aronofsky had a hand in BB. I was more going along the reboot of an established-but-ruined franchise by a relative unknown in mainstream Hollywood. Putting a relatively large budget film in the hands of someone who has not proven themselves commercially, but artistically and critically.
I have to say, I REALLY like that. At least for now.
This. One of the great things about Robocop was that it was so very 80's and cheesy. If they remake it into sleek cyborg/Ghost in the Shell sort of thing that'd ruin the feel.
Of course, since I'm an arrogant shit, I've started doing that with every movie, but in fairness I only started after the first time I saw Episode I.
Well, it wouldn't make much sense to have him move all clunky and jarringly considering these days we have robots that DANCE.
But him just being a film incarnation of MGS's Cyborg Ninja would be pretty ridiculous.
I think a slightly stiffer version of Robert Patricks's T2 movements would be pretty realistic middle ground... but I think the super-stiff movements of the original Robocop might seem a bit dated for a movie that is either supposed to be current or in the near future.
What happened is that Warner Brothers was looking to take Batman in a new direction after Batman and Robin so they solicited a number of pitches from different directors and writers. I don't know if they specifically solicited Aronofsky, but his idea was one of them, and he was going to base it off of Batman: Year One. The project never got off the ground, but it eventually evolved into Batman Begins.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Nice. I guess the idea that the old franchise was practically unsalvageable was indeed universal.
After B&R I didn't even want to see BB.
Fluid is fine. What it shouldn't feel like is organic.
I haven't seen much of Cyborg Ninja, but from what I have seen the only hint you have that he's not entirely human is that he moves ridiculously fast and hits spectacularly hard. But when he's moving at normal speed, you can see he still moves rather organically.
Robocop, I don't mind fluid, even graceful motions at speed. But they should still feel like a pre-programmed attack routine designed by a computer, not a free-form improvisation. The closest I can think of is River in the War STories episode of Firefly, where she shoots three people with her eyes closed in one move because she's calculated all the angles. Summer Glau herself didn't come off as very mechanical when she did it, but she's still fully organic. Still, the idea is there.
I know it sounds silly, but people who breakdance and do the robot moves is kind of what I was seeing in my head.
DUDE!! Same here!! But I was thinking with a shaky cam mixed with Law & Order. You'd see Robocop being asked questions on the stand just like any cop.
Isn't his the one that wanted to set it in the 70's, with batmobile closer to the very oldschool one(the one that has a bat on the grill), and had a black alfred speaking Jive?
I don't care as long as it takes place in Detrofuckingroid.
I sort of felt the same way about Batman, but I feel like a reboot of Batman is more justified because there's a legacy of that in comic books and he has a whole mythology. But Robocop is pure 80's commentary.
Even then, it won't be the same without Clarence "Bitches Leave" Bodicker.
And the Cobra Assault Cannon. State of the art. Bang-bang.
Nah, the 6000SUX is what I'd truly mourn.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
EDIT: Wikipedia informs me that a reboot is intended to replace the original as official canon. If this movie is intended to replace the original, then fuck a whole bunch of this movie.
It seems like the new sci-fi media has been rebooted with the drama first/sci-fi genre that we've been seeing done successfully in Lost, BSG, and the Batman films. I wonder if they can pull this off with Robocop?
What difference does it make if the previous movie is "official canon" or not?
All of the other movie reboots I can think of off the top of my head - Batman, Hulk - have been reboots of films based on characters from another medium, the implication being that the first film translation didn't get the thing quite right, didn't successfully capture the essence of the character in its original form, making it necessary to start over. The trouble is that Paul Verhoeven's film was the original form. I don't think we get to say that his movie wasn't an effective rendering of the Robocop story since defined what that story was in the first place.
I dunno, I'm probably overstating my objection, but I find the idea of rebooting Robocop pretty annoying. I have no particular problem with remaking Robocop, but rebooting it, if the definition of that term is what I understand it to be, seems disrespectful somehow. If Robocop hadn't been doing something right, we wouldn't have the desire to go back to it in the first place.
I had the same thoughts about how a reboot BSG that would suck and we all know how that turned out. As we saw with BSG a reboot can work if it's done right.
If a reboot for Robocop is to work it should be based on real cop stuff like drugs, domestic violence, beating hippies, and so on. Not about a cyborg that fights new robots every sequel.
Yes, because fictional depictions of media shallowness, corporate power and corruption, violent crime, and novel methods of law enforcement only happened in the '80s.
I think the distinction is with a remake, you're essentially tied to the same story. If you want to make a new story, you're either stuck with making a sequel, or starting the series fresh.
Yeah. I don't know what he means by 80's commentary. One cannot watch Robocop and go "oh, so this is how things were in the 80s, this is what made 80s different!" because those things didn't happen only in the 80s, and they weren't the only things that happened.
Not only that, but cultural cannibalism (historicity, for those at home keeping score) has almost become the preferred mode of production in pop culture.
BSG isn't a reboot, it's a re-imagining. Totally different phenomenon.
I'm kidding. Yeah, I thought about BSG after I made that post. I guess the real difference is that I never really liked the original Galactica, and didn't mind when Ron Moore called it a noble failure or whatever. I don't think Robocop needs the ground-up thematic refit that BSG got.