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Eternity's Child is terrible, but the drama is hilarious

YaYaYaYa Decent.Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Games and Technology
So there's this indie game called Eternity's Child that's been in development for years and years and years. It's well known due to its very creative art style and such.

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Pretty, right?

It's finally been released.


It is apparently fucking awful.

The jumping is broken, the animations are ridiculously stale and there's no level design to speak of.

Observe, the two Destructoid reviews and the subsequent hilarity that is Luc Bernard trying to defend his game.

http://www.destructoid.com/destructoid-review-eternity-s-child-97583.phtml#ext

My favourite quote so far:
question, did you play with controller or keyboard?

because controller is unplayable

So has anyone actually picked up this travesty yet?

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  • firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I haven't played it, but I knew something was wrong when I logged onto Steam to see they were offering a pre-purchase discount.

    Of 50 cents. Off of $4.99.

    Thanks, but, no.

    EDIT - That review was fucking hysterical: "In general, the controls are more loose than a five dollar hooker the morning after shore leave ends."

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I bought it because of how cheap it is. It's horrible and everything in that review is spot on.

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  • AaronKIAaronKI Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    A patch was released today that fixes the broken jumping and a few of the other control issues. With that out of the way, it's a pretty decent game if you like collection-style 2D platformers. Just don't expect Super Mario standards.

    Also, I think a demo is coming out next week so people won't have to risk their $5 if they want to try it.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    AaronKI wrote: »
    A patch was released today that fixes the broken jumping and a few of the other control issues. With that out of the way, it's a pretty decent game if you like collection-style 2D platformers. Just don't expect Super Mario standards.

    Also, I think a demo is coming out next week so people won't have to risk their $5 if they want to try it.

    I haven't tried the game after the patch was released, but the game shouldn't have been released with broken controls in the first place.

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  • AaronKIAaronKI Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    True. But at least it was fixed within a day. They could have not fixed it at all.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    If fixing the controls only took a day, they could've taken an extra day in development to ship a non-broken game. There's no way they didn't notice it until the reviews pointed it out. I'd put money on how the testers have known how awful the game was for months and were constantly listing exactly how so, but the developers were too arrogant to listen to them and fix their game.

    Indie or big-house, the same rule is always true. Don't ship a broken game. They broke that rule, now they pay the price with bad press.

    EDIT: Oh, so it was just that one guy who made the entire game then? Oops. There's his mistake. People are seldom good artists, programmers and game designers all at once. A little humility would've maybe had him stick to what he does best (obviously the art here) and hire competent people to do the other stuff.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    And please wait until you're sober to defend your game please.

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  • SmashismSmashism Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Doesn't this guy send a new update to kotaku/destructoid/insertbloghere like every other week?

    In response to one guy making a game:
    Everyday Shooter

    edit: haha oh man reading comment section. golden stuff.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, but the Everyday Shooter guy was talented. If you're an arrogant hack, you should stick to what you're good at.

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  • SmashismSmashism Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    SimBen wrote: »
    Yeah, but the Everyday Shooter guy was talented. If you're an arrogant hack, you should stick to what you're good at.

    Agreed. 100%.
    The good news is that Luc may have had a future in marketing up until he started commenting.

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  • ilmmadilmmad Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    O god, I remember how this was a big thing when it was removed from future XBLA because of size limits.

    I suppose I should be happy, originally I was sad it moved. It was called the next big thing repeatedly.

    Also from what I hear, the jump button works 66% of the time, all the time.

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  • HarshLanguageHarshLanguage Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I despise Destructoid, but watching the developer post there is indeed hilarious. He very quickly blamed "the programmer" for all the problems, in two separate posts, even though he alone appears to be the Big Name On The Box. Terrible.

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  • TigTig Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I was never fooled by this game. I saw a trailer months ago, and immediately noticed the terrible movement and stale-looking gameplay. Nice try game, nice try.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited August 2008
    man I don't think it's really funny. the guy worked hard on the game and it turned out to suck and everyone calls him an asshole. he didn't even work on the gameplay.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited August 2008
    but jesus this is why you never, EVER respond to criticism.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    man I don't think it's really funny. the guy worked hard on the game and it turned out to suck and everyone calls him an asshole. he didn't even work on the gameplay.

    People like to get righteously indignant over things that they're not going to play. It justifies their position, kind of like the console wars.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited August 2008
    yeah it's hard to be all "FUCK that independent developer making his first game and trying to involve himself with the community. His game is RUBBISH and he is an ASSHOLE"

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    well I sorta see where both sides stand

    on one hand dude made a terrible game and knew it but immediately pulls the "it's not my fault card"

    on the other hand what Tube said

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  • RoshinRoshin My backlog can be seen from space SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    YaYa wrote: »
    Observe, the two Destructoid reviews and the subsequent hilarity that is Luc Bernard trying to defend his game.

    Yes, fuck him for defending something he has worked really hard at.

    I haven't tried the game, but I read his comments and I don't think they in any way justifies the shitstorm that's being unleashed on him. Someone's down on the ground and the internet crowds in to kick him. Seriously, one tiny whiff of blood in the air and we're all over them, aren't we? :(

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Roshin wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    Observe, the two Destructoid reviews and the subsequent hilarity that is Luc Bernard trying to defend his game.

    Yes, fuck him for defending something he has worked really hard at.

    I haven't tried the game, but I read his comments and I don't think they in any way justifies the shitstorm that's being unleashed on him. Someone's down on the ground and the internet crowds in to kick him. Seriously, one tiny whiff of blood in the air and we're all over them, aren't we? :(

    Who's "we"? I'm not the internet, are you?

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  • CheesechickCheesechick Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Those reviews sadden me. I'll check out the demo when it comes out, but my hopes for this game have really plummeted. It's... so pretty, I WANT it to be good!
    Roshin wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    Observe, the two Destructoid reviews and the subsequent hilarity that is Luc Bernard trying to defend his game.

    Yes, fuck him for defending something he has worked really hard at.

    I haven't tried the game, but I read his comments and I don't think they in any way justifies the shitstorm that's being unleashed on him. Someone's down on the ground and the internet crowds in to kick him. Seriously, one tiny whiff of blood in the air and we're all over them, aren't we? :(

    While I think people are definitely being overly harsh on the guy, and it's sad that the first review of his first game is extremely negative, the way he responded in some of his comments was downright childish. I mean, it sucks that they didn't like his game but getting all bent out of shape because of what random commenters on Destructoid say? Of course they are going to be assholes, this is the internet. The best way to respond to that type of stuff is just not to respond at all. Hell, he even admitted to being drunk in one of the later comments (and he called Destructoid's staff unprofessional....)

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  • fallaxdracofallaxdraco Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    (and he called Destructoid's staff unprofessional....)

    to be honest they do seem like they came straight from 4chan a lot of the time

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    whoa okay

    Destructoid loses hella credibility here

    they've been blasting Luc in like two seperate unrelated articles on the front page

    too far there guys

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The talk about this game just makes me think of Odin Sphere.

    Internet assholery aside, I haven't been following this game's development (or had much interest in it) at all. An article here and there on Kotaku - it looked like a quirky 2D platformer with beautiful hand-drawn sprites. Wonky gameplay aside, what the review points out that I find simply unforgivable is bad animation.

    Yes, the jump button only works 33% of the time and that's awful, but just as horrible is a game that looks beautiful in screenshots and terrible in motion. Which brings me back to Odin Sphere.

    Man, I <3 that game. Odin Sphere has more attention to detail, more love in every facet of its sparkling presentation than any 2D game I've ever seen. Sure the gameplay is relatively the same from beginning to end (and this is where most complaints arise), but I always found it to be a pleasurable experience, and the rest of the game is nothing but creativity, attention to detail, and boggling production values.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    subedii wrote: »
    Who's "we"? I'm not the internet, are you?

    Yes.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Hah. Destructoid, credibility? :P Whut?

    I imagine the only way you could have expectations of Destructoid's professionalism is if you either a) have never read Destructoid before, or b) aggressively agreed with all their previous antics.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    Who's "we"? I'm not the internet, are you?

    Yes.

    Me too. Oh, and that guy over there. Plus the girl in the back.

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  • CheesechickCheesechick Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    (and he called Destructoid's staff unprofessional....)

    to be honest they do seem like they came straight from 4chan a lot of the time

    I don't think anything about those two particular reviews sounded unprofessional, though. Definitely not as unprofessional as drunkenly responding to criticism of your game.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Chance wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    Who's "we"? I'm not the internet, are you?

    Yes.

    Me too. Oh, and that guy over there. Plus the girl in the back.

    Ah hah! Everyone knows that there are no girls on the internet!

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Looking forward to the demo here. Drama aside I just want to play fun games.

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  • CheesechickCheesechick Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    subedii wrote: »
    Chance wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    Who's "we"? I'm not the internet, are you?

    Yes.

    Me too. Oh, and that guy over there. Plus the girl in the back.

    Ah hah! Everyone knows that there are no girls on the internet!

    Awww. I guess I'll go back into hiding now. :cry:

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    wasn't this supposed to come out on XBLA, and then got pulled from that and was supposed to come out o WiiWare?

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Ouch, man.. That guy got ripped a new one..

    However, claiming an indie game to be your life's work just seems sorta silly. Just get a better team and go again. Though he might have bombed his own reputation in those replies there. I guess any publicity is good publicity, so if he releases something good next time, people will probably go "Surely not!" in a british accent and play it to see for themselves..

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    YaYa wrote: »
    well I sorta see where both sides stand

    on one hand dude made a terrible game and knew it but immediately pulls the "it's not my fault card"

    on the other hand what Tube said

    Almost everyone on Destructoid is acting wrongly.
    That dude shouldn't have commented on the review, especially these stupid posts he made.
    The other commenters should keep it to a level and just call him on his BS without jumping on a big "I dunno about that game BUT FUCK U DUDZ"

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I feel bad for him because reading his comments he seems to think that the upcoming kotaku and other reviews of the game are going to be better.
    This reminds me of space giraffe where most people hate it but the creator insists that it's misunderstood or something.

    Djiem: I think you are expecting way too much of internet commenters.
    I have a video of luigi's dance on youtube and every single day I get an email notification that just says "gay". I somehow can't bring myself to turn it off.

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  • DualEdgeDualEdge Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I must have a high tolerance for shit since I really don't mind the game. The developer needs to learn when to shut up though.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    No kidding.
    @Reaprar

    Listen shut up, I'm saying this for the whole community, no one likes you, even the destructoid staff to be honest

    you are just a troll with no life behind your pc who is so pathetic that the only thing you have to do is just criticize and annoy EVERYONE

    you love the internet because it makes you feel superior because in real life you have no friends or don't do anything with your life

    so of course you LOVEEEEE d-toid and being the popular troll

    it's kind of sad Reaprar I feel bad for you that all you are is a internet troll with no social life or friends lol

    you poor thing, just eating your crisps and soda behind your PC awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww




    And shut up on the d-toid staff also because guess what honestly NO ONE likes you

    :D


    sorry I just had to say what everyone has been saying about you but won't tell you face to face


    you are the kind of troll that is bad for destructoid and makes it look like a troll website compared to Kotaku and other ones, it's members like you that stop this website from being as popular and appreciated by PUBLISHERS, and personally if I was in charge of this website I would have a stupid no life kid like you banned
    He sounds just as bad as the other commenters.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Kinda makes one proud of the (general) Penny Arcade community.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    No kidding.
    @Reaprar

    Listen shut up, I'm saying this for the whole community, no one likes you, even the destructoid staff to be honest

    you are just a troll with no life behind your pc who is so pathetic that the only thing you have to do is just criticize and annoy EVERYONE

    you love the internet because it makes you feel superior because in real life you have no friends or don't do anything with your life

    so of course you LOVEEEEE d-toid and being the popular troll

    it's kind of sad Reaprar I feel bad for you that all you are is a internet troll with no social life or friends lol

    you poor thing, just eating your crisps and soda behind your PC awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww




    And shut up on the d-toid staff also because guess what honestly NO ONE likes you

    :D


    sorry I just had to say what everyone has been saying about you but won't tell you face to face


    you are the kind of troll that is bad for destructoid and makes it look like a troll website compared to Kotaku and other ones, it's members like you that stop this website from being as popular and appreciated by PUBLISHERS, and personally if I was in charge of this website I would have a stupid no life kid like you banned
    He sounds just as bad as the other commenters.

    Oh my god. NOW he deserves the "FUCK U" rage.

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