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GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
So, some of you may or may not know about CERN. It's the fancy new particle accelerator being built in Switzerland.
CERN's main function is to provide the particle accelerators and other infrastructure needed for high-energy physics research. Numerous experiments have been constructed at CERN by international collaborations to make use of them. The main site at Meyrin also has a large computer centre containing very powerful data processing facilities primarily for experimental data analysis, and because of the need to make them available to researchers elsewhere, has historically been (and continues to be) a major wide area networking hub.

Some website has loads of some seriously cool photographs of the installation of the large hadron collider. This thing is expected to create micro black holes. (don't worry, they'll dissipate via Hawking radiation and will only exist for tiny amounts of time.. plus their mass is infinitesimal therefore they won't pose a threat anyway)

It's planned to help our understanding of the universe and is hoped that we'll be able to detect the ever elusive Higgs boson.

Also, the CERN website itself has plenty of cool images too.

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  • KartanKartan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »

    Some website has loads of some seriously cool photographs of the installation of the large hadron collider. This thing is expected to micro black holes. (don't worry, they'll dissipate via hawking radiation and will only exist for tiny amounts of time.. plus their mass is infinitesimal therefore they won't post a threat anyway)

    this has "what could possibly go wrong?" written all over it.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Oh god not the stupid fucking luddite bullshit about this thing destroying the earth (or, according to some sources, the universe) again.

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Kartan wrote: »
    GrimReaper wrote: »

    Some website has loads of some seriously cool photographs of the installation of the large hadron collider. This thing is expected to micro black holes. (don't worry, they'll dissipate via hawking radiation and will only exist for tiny amounts of time.. plus their mass is infinitesimal therefore they won't post a threat anyway)

    this has "what could possibly go wrong?" written all over it.
    Just to save us some grief, if you're completly ignorant about what you're talking about, don't waste our time by posting.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Kartan wrote: »
    GrimReaper wrote: »

    Some website has loads of some seriously cool photographs of the installation of the large hadron collider. This thing is expected to micro black holes. (don't worry, they'll dissipate via hawking radiation and will only exist for tiny amounts of time.. plus their mass is infinitesimal therefore they won't post a threat anyway)

    this has "what could possibly go wrong?" written all over it.
    Just to save us some grief, if you're completly ignorant about what you're talking about, don't waste our time by posting.

    hay guys, but Dan Brown said it could destroy teh univarse and he wrotexored De Vinici Code so he knows what he;s talkin bout!!!!111one1!
    That was physically painful to type up.

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    or strangelets or whatever wooooo scary.

    The thing about the black holes, it that even if they don't dissipate, their event horizon would be something smaller than a neutron, and much outside of that their won't be much of a gravity well. Even if they don't evaporate, they aren't going to do much more than sink to the center of the planet, and occasionally swallow up an electron or proton. The sun is going to go giant, before they accumulate a significant amount of mass.


    Any idea how long until they turn it on? How much longer are they going to need to cool the whole thing?

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, the whole it's going to destroy Earth thing is pretty silly.


    It'll only destroy Switzerland and France. And who'll miss them? Exactly, nobody will.
    It's a joke, relax.

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0


    :)


    also, "Compact Muon Solenoid" is one hell of a misnomer.

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  • imspectreimspectre Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Some of the conspiracy theories surrounding this project are actually entertaining.

    Spoilered for videogame themed crazy
    Apparently the United States didn't actually cancel the Superconducting Supercollider, is was finished secretly and when tested opened a doorway to hell and was barely contained and sealed off. CERN is about to make the same mistake so get ready for the End Times. :P
    Or also bad SciFi channel movie crazy
    Reptile people are behind the orchestration of this device for nefarious reasons known only to them so it should be stopped.

    I'm hoping for the latter more than the former because I always liked V more than Doom. 8-)

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    If something goes wrong, at least it'll be awesome, and I think people need awesome in their lives now more than ever.

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    redx wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0


    :)


    also, "Compact Muon Solenoid" is one hell of a misnomer.

    And this ladies and gentlemen is why I will never, ever take (non-prescribed) drugs. This guy is a pretty good advert for not taking marijuana. I've already got enough of a slightly obsessive paranoid personality. Last thing I want is to end up like that.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    FUCKING SCIENCE, MOTHERFUCKERS! :D

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    redx wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0


    :)


    also, "Compact Muon Solenoid" is one hell of a misnomer.

    I love that video. It's so fucking crazy, and I want a movie to be made about that exact scenario happening.

    Only the movie should throw in Nazis somewhere.

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  • stiliststilist Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
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    Science!

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    redx wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0


    :)


    also, "Compact Muon Solenoid" is one hell of a misnomer.

    And this ladies and gentlemen is why I will never, ever take (non-prescribed) drugs. This guy is a pretty good advert for not taking marijuana. I've already got enough of a slightly obsessive paranoid personality. Last thing I want is to end up like that.

    yes because it's clearly weed that made this guy a fucking religious nutbar.

    this particle accelerator will at worst be disappointing. there's no way it will actually cause any harm.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'll tell you what.. if we come back and the earth is destroyed, I owe you a coke.

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  • jotjot Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Kartan wrote: »
    GrimReaper wrote: »

    Some website has loads of some seriously cool photographs of the installation of the large hadron collider. This thing is expected to micro black holes. (don't worry, they'll dissipate via hawking radiation and will only exist for tiny amounts of time.. plus their mass is infinitesimal therefore they won't post a threat anyway)

    this has "what could possibly go wrong?" written all over it.
    Just to save us some grief, if you're completly ignorant about what you're talking about, don't waste our time by posting.

    Dude, lighten up. Nobody with half a brain really expects something bad to happen.
    Although it would be a neat way to end the world.

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    See, this is the thing. I am an irrational worrier about this sort of thing. I'm a perfectly intelligent, rational person, a science student even. But I worry about all kinds of shit. But only when I'm in bed. I'm the sort of person who'll hear a plane outside and think "holy shit is that a meteor or what". So naturally when all you read about this is either "OMG the wolrd is dooooomed" or jokes about a "large hardon collider" I end up losing sleep. And I hate myself for it, and I know, I KNOW I'm just being an idiot, but even so it still happens.

    Fortunately I'm also the sort of person who can understand and take weird comfort from the phrase "event horizon smaller than a neutron". So, redx, my sleep patterns thank you.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dr Snofeld wrote: »
    See, this is the thing. I am an irrational worrier about this sort of thing. I'm a perfectly intelligent, rational person, a science student even. But I worry about all kinds of shit. But only when I'm in bed. I'm the sort of person who'll hear a plane outside and think "holy shit is that a meteor or what". So naturally when all you read about this is either "OMG the wolrd is dooooomed" or jokes about a "large hardon collider" I end up losing sleep. And I hate myself for it, and I know, I KNOW I'm just being an idiot, but even so it still happens.

    Fortunately I'm also the sort of person who can understand and take weird comfort from the phrase "event horizon smaller than a neutron". So, redx, my sleep patterns thank you.

    You might need some anti-anxiety medicine, or at least knowledge of some stress management techniques.

    Breathe in through your nose, out through your mouth. Deep inhale, hold, exhale...

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    redx wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0


    :)


    also, "Compact Muon Solenoid" is one hell of a misnomer.

    And this ladies and gentlemen is why I will never, ever take (non-prescribed) drugs. This guy is a pretty good advert for not taking marijuana. I've already got enough of a slightly obsessive paranoid personality. Last thing I want is to end up like that.

    yes because it's clearly weed that made this guy a fucking religious nutbar.

    this particle accelerator will at worst be disappointing. there's no way it will actually cause any harm.

    No, that wasn't my point. There are those of us who happen to already be slightly obsessive, paranoid etc to a degree (personality flaws). Certain drugs tend to increase/worsen these traits.

    This guy is clearly one massive fruit loop, but my point was to get to that level you have to be seriously nuts already or been taking way too much weed thereby making it worse.

    EDIT: For example my personality is slightly obsessive compulsive with a light sprinkling of paranoia thrown in and a slightly addictive must finish it personality (like a gaming pack rat thing, must collect them all type). It's the way I am. For example, if I open a packet of sweets, biscuits etc. I must eat them all in that sitting or within a day. I just can't leave them lying around. It's why i've never touched drugs like weed, it'd make me a hell of a lot worse and I know it.

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  • shergakshergak Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Maybe it'll just flashforward the whole world, like Robert Sawyer said it would.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Why do you think it's called the 'god particle'? because its existence will finally reveal the gods to us.

    And they will be pissed.

    But once the world finds out Jesus is actually a fat black transvestite, Muhammad is a metro-sexual vegan hipster, and Buddha is an angry lycra-wearing critical mass cyclist... so will their followers.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    redx wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0


    :)


    also, "Compact Muon Solenoid" is one hell of a misnomer.

    I would actually like for people like this guy to be executed without trial.

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dr Snofeld wrote: »
    See, this is the thing. I am an irrational worrier about this sort of thing. I'm a perfectly intelligent, rational person, a science student even. But I worry about all kinds of shit. But only when I'm in bed. I'm the sort of person who'll hear a plane outside and think "holy shit is that a meteor or what". So naturally when all you read about this is either "OMG the wolrd is dooooomed" or jokes about a "large hardon collider" I end up losing sleep. And I hate myself for it, and I know, I KNOW I'm just being an idiot, but even so it still happens.

    Fortunately I'm also the sort of person who can understand and take weird comfort from the phrase "event horizon smaller than a neutron". So, redx, my sleep patterns thank you.


    The Bad Astronomer and a lot of other similar blogers have wrote about how the doomsday scenarios aren't all that likely. You might not want to read his book when it comes out though.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Cantido wrote: »
    FUCKING SCIENCE, MOTHERFUCKERS! :D
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    :D:^:

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    XKCD shirt. Awesome.
    The graph on the back of the shirt is data from the COBE mission, which looked at the background microwave glow of the universe and found that it fit perfectly with the idea that the universe used to be really hot everywhere. This strongly reinforced the Big Bang theory and was one of the most dramatic examples of an experiment agreeing with a theory in history -- the data points fit perfectly, with error bars too small to draw on the graph. It's one of the most triumphant scientific results in history.

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  • AJAlkaline40AJAlkaline40 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    Dude, is that shirt from xkcd? I always wanted to buy the "Stand back! I'm going to try science" one.

    Anyway, I'm very interested in seeing what the LHC will do to string theory. My biggest hope is that it doesn't just end up being a waste of money, I want something really cool to come out of this.

    And, of course, I'm open for random portals opening to alien worlds. That would be pretty tight.

    EDIT:
    And damn it looks cool. If it never produces any significant results, then at least I hope they film a movie there some day.

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  • LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    This whole experiment/idea is goddamned awesome, even to a luddite like me. The only thing that could make this more awesome is if all the guys had to have Albert Einstien haircuts and lab coats, with an optional class in cackling.

    Real world mad science is the best. These guys are going to make history.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    FUCKING SCIENCE, MOTHERFUCKERS! :D
    linac2thumbmb2.jpg
    :D:^:

    I'd tap that.

    I understand the scientific value of this doohickey (sort of), but what effects from it will I see in my life time? Will it further our understanding of something like fusion power or wormholes or what not?

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    This whole experiment/idea is goddamned awesome, even to a luddite like me. The only thing that could make this more awesome is if all the guys had to have Albert Einstien haircuts and lab coats, with an optional class in cackling.

    Real world mad science is the best. These guys are going to make history.

    Don't forget tesla coils making huge arcs of electricity, dubious looking machines making showers of sparks, and old fashion switches that you have to flip to turn on.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    FUCKING SCIENCE, MOTHERFUCKERS! :D
    linac2thumbmb2.jpg
    :D:^:

    I'd tap that.

    I understand the scientific value of this doohickey (sort of), but what effects from it will I see in my life time? Will it further our understanding of something like fusion power or wormholes or what not?

    We dunno. We're doing it for the sake of discovery and maybe we'll accidentally invent something cool. At least that's what my cousin says and she works at CERN as a post doc.

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Zilla360 wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    FUCKING SCIENCE, MOTHERFUCKERS! :D
    linac2thumbmb2.jpg
    :D:^:

    I'd tap that.

    I understand the scientific value of this doohickey (sort of), but what effects from it will I see in my life time? Will it further our understanding of something like fusion power or wormholes or what not?
    yes. We just don't know what 'what not' is.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thanks redx.

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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    redx wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0


    :)


    also, "Compact Muon Solenoid" is one hell of a misnomer.

    Oh god I couldn't hold it in, I so laughed. We don't have the risk of black holes, strange matter or a gate to another dimension, its a smokescreen! They really just want to bring satanic aliens to the earth!

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  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The concern over this project is similar to the concern voiced at the dawn of atomic weapons... something something detonate one and the atmosphere will become fissionable material...

    As far as i know, that hasn't happened. and those people were called crazy then too.. Everyone knows its much worse to use lasguns in the presence of shields.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I thought the only reason the whole 'it could turn the world into strange matter' thing came up was because the scientists, being scientists, had to say it was possible something could go very wrong, when in fact the chances of that happening was about as likely as me existing in two different places at the same time, that sort of thing.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Cantido wrote: »
    FUCKING SCIENCE, MOTHERFUCKERS! :D

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    This thread is just not complete without it.

    My favorite picture from that link earlier is this one. I think it's just great that the whatever-it-is looks exactly like a jumbo-sized gear.

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    believe that's the Compact Muon Solenoid.

    the whole jumbo-sized aspect was the motivation for my earlier misnomer comment.

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    The concern over this project is similar to the concern voiced at the dawn of atomic weapons... something something detonate one and the atmosphere will become fissionable material...

    That was actually a running joke between some of the scientists that got overheard by a bureaucrat, who demanded they produce evidence it couldn't occur.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    redx wrote: »
    believe that's the Compact Muon Solenoid.

    the whole jumbo-sized aspect was the motivation for my earlier misnomer comment.

    Aha. I had no idea what you were on about, frankly. :P It seems to be labeled "ATLAS Magnet Toroid End-Cap A," too.

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