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    satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    i actually have yet to see the seven samurai for some reason, even though ikiru is easily one of my favorite movies

    i have several strange and glaring gaps in my viewing history

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    all you weeabos out there who want to dress up as Cloud or Sephiroth listen up

    if you want to be the most badass japanese man ever the man you want to be is Toshiro Mifune

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    i actually have yet to see the seven samurai for some reason, even though ikiru is easily one of my favorite movies

    i have several strange and glaring gaps in my viewing history


    We shall commence beating you.


    We don't know when we'll stop.


    EDIT: What about Shintarô Katsu? You might know him as Zatoichi. He's pretty badass, no?

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    satansfingerssatansfingers Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    all you weeabos out there who want to dress up as Cloud or Sephiroth listen up

    if you want to be the most badass japanese man ever the man you want to be is Toshiro Mifune

    he is so awesome in stray dog

    that movie is really underrated in my opinion

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MechMantis wrote: »
    The Seven Samurai isn't the greatest Japanese movie ever made. Everyone wants to say that it is like it'll give them some kind of cinephile cred. The reality is that it's the best movie of any kind ever made.


    Dunno. Shogun Assassin ranks up there on the cheesiest move ever list.
    Eat shit and die, mother fucker.

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    A list of all the Akira Kurosawa movies I've seen, and loved

    Rashomon
    The Hidden Fortress
    Ikiru
    Red Beard
    Yojimbo
    Sanjuro
    Ran
    In Dreams

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    animehs threads?

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I could not force my way through Red Beard. I'll probably watch it years from now and love it to death, but until then, I'm perfectly fine with being bored to tears by that flick. I mean, there has to be more of a hook than just "Mifune with a beard."

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MechMantis wrote: »
    The Seven Samurai isn't the greatest Japanese movie ever made. Everyone wants to say that it is like it'll give them some kind of cinephile cred. The reality is that it's the best movie of any kind ever made.


    Dunno. Shogun Assassin ranks up there on the cheesiest move ever list.
    Eat shit and die, mother fucker.


    Why? There's about a 15 minute section in which a guy monologues about how he likes the sound of the air rushing out of his own cut throat and how he always wished he could make a cut like that.

    Blood then pours out of his throat as though shot out of a fire hose

    Now, this is awesome. VERY awesome. But it is also so cheesy that you could put it on crackers.

    Edit: This post needed some more italics.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Get this trouble maker out of here!

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I need to watch that movie again anyway.


    I own them both.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'll own your booth.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    PI that doesn't even make sense

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    RialeRiale I'm a little slow Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Oh man this is a great thread. My dad is the biggest Kurosawa and Mifune junkie ever. I watched a lot of these growing up but I barely remember some of them. I should really get back into this stuff.

    THIS is the japanese culture I'm not ashamed to watch. Fuck that retarded weeaboo otaku anime stuff.

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    KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I think he wants to make your banana stand.

    Anyway, Shogun Assassin is a great movie regardless of the cheese factor.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    kurosawa actually made every movie ever after 1950

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I could not force my way through Red Beard. I'll probably watch it years from now and love it to death, but until then, I'm perfectly fine with being bored to tears by that flick. I mean, there has to be more of a hook than just "Mifune with a beard."

    Well Mifune is barely in it
    It's his influence as a character on everyone else that's important
    I think Kurosawa really flirts with melodrama in that one but ultimately it all works because of the respect he gives the characters
    I just loved how humanist it was and how focused it was on the dignity of people who have otherwise given up hope and been abandoned by the world

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, Akira Kurosawa is a pretty optomistic film maker. Even when the endings are sad, they still manage to give you this incredible sense of hope and wonder.

    Mifune being charismatic as Hell doesn't hurt, either.

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    IloveslimesIloveslimes Everett, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I would say that Rashomon was/is more influential than his other films. The relativity of truth has been imitated in Rashomon's style so many times. I remember seeing it in some American cartoon even.
    I've watched a lot of his films and I still feel I need to watch all of them some time. I really need to watch Hidden Fortress, the one that Lucas based a lot of Star Wars off of.
    On a general Japanese film note, has anyone else watched Tampopo or Kikujiro?

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I would say that Rashomon was/is more influential than his other films. The relativity of truth has been imitated in Rashomon's style so many times. I remember seeing it in some American cartoon even.
    I've watched a lot of his films and I still feel I need to watch all of them some time. I really need to watch Hidden Fortress, the one that Lucas based a lot of Star Wars off of.
    On a general Japanese film note, has anyone else watched Tampopo or Kikujiro?

    Yeah, but nobody seems to remember that in Rashomon everybody remembers themselves as a worse person than anyone else does. I've only seen that part imitated once, in an episode of King of the Hill where Bill sees himself as very fat and completely bald

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Riale wrote: »
    Oh man this is a great thread. My dad is the biggest Kurosawa and Mifune junkie ever. I watched a lot of these growing up but I barely remember some of them. I should really get back into this stuff.

    THIS is the japanese culture I'm not ashamed to watch. Fuck that retarded weeaboo otaku anime stuff.

    Man, I hate it when people start saying how faggoty anime is. I mean, sure some of it is. But really there is a lot to appreciate there.

    Of course anything by Kurosawa kicks most of anime's ass. but still.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Odds are that even the most uneducated and ignorant cur has seen three or four Rashomon homages in their lifetime. People living in caves that don't have eyes have experienced at least one Rashomon parody.

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I think most of the influence in Star Wars comes from The Seven Samurai
    Lucas took the begining and a very loose sense of the plot from Fortress
    But a lot of the characters come from Samurai
    The old and wise teacher and military leader
    The earnest young apprentice
    And the cynical, blustery outsider

    Also a lot of the directorial techniques Kurosawa used are seen in Star Wars

    Also
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    GoldenSeducerGoldenSeducer AAAAAUGH!! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Artreus wrote: »
    Riale wrote: »
    Oh man this is a great thread. My dad is the biggest Kurosawa and Mifune junkie ever. I watched a lot of these growing up but I barely remember some of them. I should really get back into this stuff.

    THIS is the japanese culture I'm not ashamed to watch. Fuck that retarded weeaboo otaku anime stuff.

    Man, I hate it when people start saying how faggoty anime is. I mean, sure some of it is. But really there is a lot to appreciate there.

    Of course anything by Kurosawa kicks most of anime's ass. but still.

    If Kurosawa were still alive and he directed an anime, would it be awesome?

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Artreus wrote: »
    Riale wrote: »
    Oh man this is a great thread. My dad is the biggest Kurosawa and Mifune junkie ever. I watched a lot of these growing up but I barely remember some of them. I should really get back into this stuff.

    THIS is the japanese culture I'm not ashamed to watch. Fuck that retarded weeaboo otaku anime stuff.

    Man, I hate it when people start saying how faggoty anime is. I mean, sure some of it is. But really there is a lot to appreciate there.

    Of course anything by Kurosawa kicks most of anime's ass. but still.

    If Kurosawa were still alive and he directed an anime, would it be awesome?

    No

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Star Wars takes a lot from Hidden Fortress as well

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    GoldenSeducerGoldenSeducer AAAAAUGH!! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BusterK wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    Riale wrote: »
    Oh man this is a great thread. My dad is the biggest Kurosawa and Mifune junkie ever. I watched a lot of these growing up but I barely remember some of them. I should really get back into this stuff.

    THIS is the japanese culture I'm not ashamed to watch. Fuck that retarded weeaboo otaku anime stuff.

    Man, I hate it when people start saying how faggoty anime is. I mean, sure some of it is. But really there is a lot to appreciate there.

    Of course anything by Kurosawa kicks most of anime's ass. but still.

    If Kurosawa were still alive and he directed an anime, would it be awesome?

    No

    Even if he worked with Miyazaki?

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You didn't make that clear enough, Buster.



    NO.

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Star Wars takes a lot from Hidden Fortress as well

    Yeah, I forgot to mention that was the movie I was saying he took the beginning and some of the plot

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MechMantis wrote: »
    You didn't make that clear enough, Buster.



    NO.

    I saw that!

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MechMantis wrote: »
    You didn't make that clear enough, PI.



    NO.

    Ahahaha, I saw that

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    IloveslimesIloveslimes Everett, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BusterK: Good point. It's been a while, and honestly I didn't remember that about Rashomon myself.

    Kurosawa's movies made going to authentic castles in Japan so much cooler. I mean it was fun to start with, but having watched Ran 3 or 4 times made it great because I could see how the really steep stairs contributed to the castle defense and everything.

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    GoldenSeducerGoldenSeducer AAAAAUGH!! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MechMantis wrote: »
    You didn't make that clear enough, Buster.



    NO.

    I guess you're right. It would be phenomenal.

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    MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Artreus wrote: »
    Goddamnit


    Well fuck you too.

    Also, Buster, you didn't catch the original. You did NOT see that, clearly.
    <3

    Also: Seducer:


    Kurosawa would not make a good anime. If he were still alive, he would be making awesome motion pictures with people, not cels.


    Because that is what he did.

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    GoldenSeducerGoldenSeducer AAAAAUGH!! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MechMantis wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    Goddamnit


    Well fuck you too.

    Also, Buster, you didn't catch the original. You did NOT see that, clearly.
    <3

    Also: Seducer:


    Kurosawa would not make a good anime. If he were still alive, he would be making awesome motion pictures with people, not cels.


    Because that is what he did.

    Bah. Fine. You win this round. Again. For the 125th time.

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Because if it is animated, it is for children, and sucks.

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    Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BusterK wrote: »
    I think most of the influence in Star Wars comes from The Seven Samurai
    Lucas took the begining and a very loose sense of the plot from Fortress
    But a lot of the characters come from Samurai
    The old and wise teacher and military leader
    The earnest young apprentice
    And the cynical, blustery outsider

    Also a lot of the directorial techniques Kurosawa used are seen in Star Wars

    Also
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    Thought I cut the anchor chain (wipe)
    Though a lot of that stuff is lifted whole-sale from Joseph Campbell's Hero of A Thousand Faces. . . and a lot of that is based off of Karl Jung's philosophy.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    can we not have a fucking anime argument in the kurosawa thread please

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yes :(

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BusterK wrote: »
    I think most of the influence in Star Wars comes from The Seven Samurai
    Lucas took the begining and a very loose sense of the plot from Fortress
    But a lot of the characters come from Samurai
    The old and wise teacher and military leader
    The earnest young apprentice
    And the cynical, blustery outsider

    Also a lot of the directorial techniques Kurosawa used are seen in Star Wars

    Also
    Thought I cut the anchor chain (wipe)
    Thought I cut the anchor chain (wipe)
    Thought I cut the anchor chain (wipe)
    Though a lot of that stuff is lifted whole-sale from Joseph Campbell's Hero of A Thousand Faces. . . and a lot of that is based off of Karl Jung's philosophy.

    I should try reading some of those things

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