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Wirelees networking: " I can't seem them Jim."

bubblegumnexbubblegumnex Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Oh great penny arcade forumites, I prostrate myself before you and ask wish to learn from your wisdom. Before we begin, here's the setup:

Scribbler = HP pavilion laptop with Vista Home Basic with Network Discovery on

Wireless router ( Linksys WRT54G2)

All other machines are running Windows XP

Now here's the scenario: I'm putting the wireless router behind another router ( DL-604) and pretty much turning it into a switch but wireless capabilities. So far, I can get wireless interwebs, however, I cannot see any of the shared folders on the network, even when in the same work group. However, when connected to the network with wires, everything works.

Thoughts?


Yes, I've already thought about just switching up the routers, however the modem is in an odd place with the router tucked in a corner in my roommates bedroom, so I doubt that signal strength would be any good.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Is the WRT54G acting as a DHCP server? If so, I'd turn that off; you only need one DHCP server on the network and it should probably be the DL-604.

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  • bubblegumnexbubblegumnex Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    DrFrylock wrote: »
    Is the WRT54G acting as a DHCP server? If so, I'd turn that off; you only need one DHCP server on the network and it should probably be the DL-604.

    Tried that. No dice

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You have a Vista machine trying to see XP shared folders, or XP machines that can't see the Vista shared folders? That's unclear.

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  • bubblegumnexbubblegumnex Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    1ddqd wrote: »
    You have a Vista machine trying to see XP shared folders, or XP machines that can't see the Vista shared folders? That's unclear.

    Vista machine trying to see XP folders. I can seem them perfectly fine when I'm connected to the network with a wire. But on wirless through the other router, no dice.

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  • eternalbleternalbl Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    1ddqd wrote: »
    You have a Vista machine trying to see XP shared folders, or XP machines that can't see the Vista shared folders? That's unclear.

    Vista machine trying to see XP folders. I can seem them perfectly fine when I'm connected to the network with a wire. But on wirless through the other router, no dice.

    Are you connecting the old router to the wireless through the wireless's internet port, or through a numbered port?

    I'd try making sure the wireless router's DHCP is disabled, and connecting the wired router to a numbered port rather than the net port.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    eternalbl wrote: »
    1ddqd wrote: »
    You have a Vista machine trying to see XP shared folders, or XP machines that can't see the Vista shared folders? That's unclear.

    Vista machine trying to see XP folders. I can seem them perfectly fine when I'm connected to the network with a wire. But on wirless through the other router, no dice.

    Are you connecting the old router to the wireless through the wireless's internet port, or through a numbered port?

    I'd try making sure the wireless router's DHCP is disabled, and connecting the wired router to a numbered port rather than the net port.

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  • bubblegumnexbubblegumnex Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    eternalbl wrote: »
    1ddqd wrote: »
    You have a Vista machine trying to see XP shared folders, or XP machines that can't see the Vista shared folders? That's unclear.

    Vista machine trying to see XP folders. I can seem them perfectly fine when I'm connected to the network with a wire. But on wirless through the other router, no dice.

    Are you connecting the old router to the wireless through the wireless's internet port, or through a numbered port?

    I'd try making sure the wireless router's DHCP is disabled, and connecting the wired router to a numbered port rather than the net port.

    I'm connecting the wired router to the wireless router in it's net port. I tried connecting it in a numbered port, but no dice.

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  • eternalbleternalbl Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    eternalbl wrote: »
    1ddqd wrote: »
    You have a Vista machine trying to see XP shared folders, or XP machines that can't see the Vista shared folders? That's unclear.

    Vista machine trying to see XP folders. I can seem them perfectly fine when I'm connected to the network with a wire. But on wirless through the other router, no dice.

    Are you connecting the old router to the wireless through the wireless's internet port, or through a numbered port?

    I'd try making sure the wireless router's DHCP is disabled, and connecting the wired router to a numbered port rather than the net port.

    I'm connecting the wired router to the wireless router in it's net port. I tried connecting it in a numbered port, but no dice.

    The last time I was fighting like this with windows file sharing, it was between a 98 and an xp machine. I ended up just getting frustrated with it and left for an hour or 2. When I came back, file sharing was just working...

    Tried just letting them sit there and do their thing for a bit?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    What you're really trying to do is create a Wireless Access Point with a router. Not hard to do, but there are certain steps you'll need in order to ensure you can still access the network itself. If you're after solely the internet, doing what you have is fine.

    You have as follows.

    Internet -> Wired Router -> Wireless router.

    On the wired router, make sure DHCP is turned on. That's all that's necessary.
    On the wireless router, take cat 5/6 from a numbered port on the wired router to a numbered port on the wireless. Placing it on the WAN port on your wireless router is going to block off access to your network unless you know how to do some routing. It's way to complicated to warrant doing this, though. Once you've connected it from LAN<->LAN on the router, disable DHCP on the wireless and set up the wireless as an IP on the network.

    Use this image as a guide, that's how my home one was set up a while ago:

    RouterAsAP.png

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  • embrikembrik Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    eternalbl wrote: »
    1ddqd wrote: »
    You have a Vista machine trying to see XP shared folders, or XP machines that can't see the Vista shared folders? That's unclear.

    Vista machine trying to see XP folders. I can seem them perfectly fine when I'm connected to the network with a wire. But on wirless through the other router, no dice.

    Are you connecting the old router to the wireless through the wireless's internet port, or through a numbered port?

    I'd try making sure the wireless router's DHCP is disabled, and connecting the wired router to a numbered port rather than the net port.

    I'm connecting the wired router to the wireless router in it's net port. I tried connecting it in a numbered port, but no dice.

    Unless one of the devices supports auto crossover, that won't work. You would need to run a crossover cable between the numbered ports on the two devices.

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  • bubblegumnexbubblegumnex Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Great. Everything works now. Thanks guys.

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