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Fundies Looking To Ban Book About Book-Burning, Irony Found Dead In Pool
(I redid the OP so that we can actually discuss this.)
So, the fuckwit moral guardians are on the rampage again. This time, their target is Ray Bradbury's classic polemic against censorship, Fahrenheit 451.
When the girl who started the charge to ban the book was asked why, her response was that she found objectionable the cussing and that the Bible was being burned. In other words, the book pretty much went over her head. Luckily, her fellow classmates aren't nearly as stupid, and are showing support for one of the major works of modern fiction. Unluckily, her father is pushing on the ban.
And people wonder why we think the Religious Right have their heads up their asses.
Edit: Oh, did I mention that the assignment was given during National Banned Book Week?
The great thing is that they actually did go through page by page to make a list of "complaints" and yet they still didn't realize that the book was defending the right of christianity to exist and the value of the Bible.
The great thing is that they actually did go through page by page to make a list of "complaints" and yet they still didn't realize that the book was defending the right of christianity to exist and the value of the Bible.
OK, I don't watch network local news anymore (for good reason it seems), but this was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Both the complainers and the newscasters are so full of fail, it made me cry a bit.
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The great thing is that they actually did go through page by page to make a list of "complaints" and yet they still didn't realize that the book was defending the right of christianity to exist and the value of the Bible.
Genius.
ctrl+f
"god"
"bible"
"fuck"
"Damn"
"bitch"
"Christian"
oh my giddy aunt I'm outraged
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Fahrenheit 451 ends up a target for "banning" every few years at one school or another.
Yep. It's too bad that most English classes don't spend the banned book day to actually discuss the philosophical underpinnings of freedom of expression and to foster the understanding that all books have at one point or another been deemed objectionable and attempts were made to ban them. Including the Bible to try and pierce the lolfundies brain.
It's also too bad that complaints get lodged against good books that are controversial which kids have to read, but absolute shit like Atlas Shrugged and To Kill a Mockingbird get forced on kids without a peep of protest. It's amazing that I still enjoy a good book after all the crap that English teachers thought were literary masterpieces. Thank god for the library and my mom/grandpa.
Fahrenheit 451 ends up a target for "banning" every few years at one school or another.
Yep. It's too bad that most English classes don't spend the banned book day to actually discuss the philosophical underpinnings of freedom of expression and to foster the understanding that all books have at one point or another been deemed objectionable and attempts were made to ban them. Including the Bible to try and pierce the lolfundies brain.
It's also too bad that complaints get lodged against good books that are controversial which kids have to read, but absolute shit like Atlas Shrugged and To Kill a Mockingbird get forced on kids without a peep of protest. It's amazing that I still enjoy a good book after all the crap that English teachers thought were literary masterpieces. Thank god for the library and my mom/grandpa.
To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book though
and I don't know any credible English teacher who would call Atlas Shrugged a classic; the clerisy seem to bear Ayn Rand little love
I can't even call this girl an idiot. I can't even come up with a word that accurately describes how I feel about this girl. Instead, I'll just post the theasuarus for "idiot"
I can't even call this girl an idiot. I can't even come up with a word that accurately describes how I feel about this girl. Instead, I'll just post the theasuarus for "idiot"
Fahrenheit 451 ends up a target for "banning" every few years at one school or another.
Yep. It's too bad that most English classes don't spend the banned book day to actually discuss the philosophical underpinnings of freedom of expression and to foster the understanding that all books have at one point or another been deemed objectionable and attempts were made to ban them. Including the Bible to try and pierce the lolfundies brain.
It's also too bad that complaints get lodged against good books that are controversial which kids have to read, but absolute shit like Atlas Shrugged and To Kill a Mockingbird get forced on kids without a peep of protest. It's amazing that I still enjoy a good book after all the crap that English teachers thought were literary masterpieces. Thank god for the library and my mom/grandpa.
To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book though
and I don't know any credible English teacher who would call Atlas Shrugged a classic; the clerisy seem to bear Ayn Rand little love
To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book with a horrible book taking up the first half of it.
I can't even call this girl an idiot. I can't even come up with a word that accurately describes how I feel about this girl. Instead, I'll just post the theasuarus for "idiot"
Fahrenheit 451 ends up a target for "banning" every few years at one school or another.
Yep. It's too bad that most English classes don't spend the banned book day to actually discuss the philosophical underpinnings of freedom of expression and to foster the understanding that all books have at one point or another been deemed objectionable and attempts were made to ban them. Including the Bible to try and pierce the lolfundies brain.
It's also too bad that complaints get lodged against good books that are controversial which kids have to read, but absolute shit like Atlas Shrugged and To Kill a Mockingbird get forced on kids without a peep of protest. It's amazing that I still enjoy a good book after all the crap that English teachers thought were literary masterpieces. Thank god for the library and my mom/grandpa.
To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book though
and I don't know any credible English teacher who would call Atlas Shrugged a classic; the clerisy seem to bear Ayn Rand little love
To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book with a horrible book taking up the first half of it.
Do fundies struggle with rational thought at all times? If you were in a position of power, would you deny a fundie employment? Do fundies have any good qualities?
Fahrenheit 451 ends up a target for "banning" every few years at one school or another.
Yep. It's too bad that most English classes don't spend the banned book day to actually discuss the philosophical underpinnings of freedom of expression and to foster the understanding that all books have at one point or another been deemed objectionable and attempts were made to ban them. Including the Bible to try and pierce the lolfundies brain.
It's also too bad that complaints get lodged against good books that are controversial which kids have to read, but absolute shit like Atlas Shrugged and To Kill a Mockingbird get forced on kids without a peep of protest. It's amazing that I still enjoy a good book after all the crap that English teachers thought were literary masterpieces. Thank god for the library and my mom/grandpa.
To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book though
and I don't know any credible English teacher who would call Atlas Shrugged a classic; the clerisy seem to bear Ayn Rand little love
To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book with a horrible book taking up the first half of it.
Still, comparing it to Atlas Shrugged?
Come on.
They're two of the books that I had to read in HS and which I absolutely loathed. You can throw Gatsby in there as well if you'd like. Thankfully they weren't back to back to back and I had some reprieves with Of Mice and Men, Animal Farm and 1984, and, yes, Fahrenheit 451. On top of some other chaff that was just meh.
...damnit Lennie, why'd you have to go and...he....you
The funniest thing about the video is that gentle haze of ignorance you can see over the girl's face. I'd like to throw a rock at her and see if she dodges.
They're two of the books that I had to read in HS and which I absolutely loathed. You can throw Gatsby in there as well if you'd like. Thankfully they weren't back to back to back and I had some reprieves with Of Mice and Men, Animal Farm and 1984, and, yes, Fahrenheit 451. On top of some other chaff that was just meh.
...damnit Lennie, why'd you have to go and...he....you
It's actually pretty rare for schools to assign Atlas Shrugged, except perhaps to get kids to write essays for the Ayn Rand Foundation essay contest for the sake of college money. The book is universally panned by the hoity-toity literary types who decide on school curricula.
They're two of the books that I had to read in HS and which I absolutely loathed. You can throw Gatsby in there as well if you'd like. Thankfully they weren't back to back to back and I had some reprieves with Of Mice and Men, Animal Farm and 1984, and, yes, Fahrenheit 451. On top of some other chaff that was just meh.
...damnit Lennie, why'd you have to go and...he....you
It's actually pretty rare for schools to assign Atlas Shrugged, except perhaps to get kids to write essays for the Ayn Rand Foundation essay contest for the sake of college money. The book is universally panned by the hoity-toity literary types who decide on school curricula.
Well, my school just sucks then. Or I had horrible luck with English teachers. Actually, it's probably the latter. My first semester, Senior year, was taught by a guy who didn't believe it possible for a man to get raped because sex is enjoyable.
They're two of the books that I had to read in HS and which I absolutely loathed. You can throw Gatsby in there as well if you'd like. Thankfully they weren't back to back to back and I had some reprieves with Of Mice and Men, Animal Farm and 1984, and, yes, Fahrenheit 451. On top of some other chaff that was just meh.
...damnit Lennie, why'd you have to go and...he....you
It's actually pretty rare for schools to assign Atlas Shrugged, except perhaps to get kids to write essays for the Ayn Rand Foundation essay contest for the sake of college money. The book is universally panned by the hoity-toity literary types who decide on school curricula.
Well, my school just sucks then. Or I had horrible luck with English teachers. Actually, it's probably the latter. My first semester, Senior year, was taught by a guy who didn't believe it possible for a man to get raped because sex is enjoyable.
Yeah.
Like in WWII, bands of female Russian soldiers went around raping German men as revenge during the Soviet advance.
Not like pretty ballerina Russians, but like shotputters and discus throwers.
My first semester, Senior year, was taught by a guy who didn't believe it possible for a man to get raped because sex is enjoyable.
Yeah.
Soo....he had no fear of dropping the soap in a prison shower?
We have a forumer here who doesn't believe women can be raped for this reason, or, at least believes that a woman can't be injured/hurt physically by rape.
My first semester, Senior year, was taught by a guy who didn't believe it possible for a man to get raped because sex is enjoyable.
Yeah.
Soo....he had no fear of dropping the soap in a prison shower?
Nobody really broached the topic. Either out of the sheer insanity of it, or because he's a teacher and it's easier to ignore the crazy and try to get a good grade. I spent most of that class in the back reading old sci-fi books hidden in the textbook. My AP physics prof that year was pure awesome, though. We made hovercrafts one week, just for fun. So things balance out, I guess.
They're two of the books that I had to read in HS and which I absolutely loathed. You can throw Gatsby in there as well if you'd like. Thankfully they weren't back to back to back and I had some reprieves with Of Mice and Men, Animal Farm and 1984, and, yes, Fahrenheit 451. On top of some other chaff that was just meh.
...damnit Lennie, why'd you have to go and...he....you
It's actually pretty rare for schools to assign Atlas Shrugged, except perhaps to get kids to write essays for the Ayn Rand Foundation essay contest for the sake of college money. The book is universally panned by the hoity-toity literary types who decide on school curricula.
Well, my school just sucks then. Or I had horrible luck with English teachers. Actually, it's probably the latter. My first semester, Senior year, was taught by a guy who didn't believe it possible for a man to get raped because sex is enjoyable.
Yeah.
Where's that person who had a gif about ege02's posts about an "unreasonable amount of controversy"?
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My first semester, Senior year, was taught by a guy who didn't believe it possible for a man to get raped because sex is enjoyable.
Yeah.
Soo....he had no fear of dropping the soap in a prison shower?
We have a forumer here who doesn't believe women can be raped for this reason, or, at least believes that a woman can't be injured/hurt physically by rape.
My first semester, Senior year, was taught by a guy who didn't believe it possible for a man to get raped because sex is enjoyable.
Yeah.
Soo....he had no fear of dropping the soap in a prison shower?
We have a forumer here who doesn't believe women can be raped for this reason, or, at least believes that a woman can't be injured/hurt physically by rape.
Dammit Jeeps, making fun of ege is my schtick!
eh... that dude took it back.
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but they're listening to every word I say
We're getting kinda far afield here...and it's mostly my fault. So...yeah, less rape more discussion of book bannings and the lack of consistently good literature as required reading in Englilish classrooms.
Personally I think there should be a list of books with a real quick synopsis that teachers go over with the kids at the start of the year to choose which ones they're going to read that year/semester. You might get lolfundies making an end run to ensure that certain books get continually ignored, but at least you'll likely be reading some quality shit that will help foster a love of reading in kids before they create negative associations with books. I actually cried at the end of Of Mice and Men. Hell, even now I'm getting all misty eyed just thinking about it. More of that level of quality in the classroom, please.
More of that level of quality in the classroom, please.
This right here. Of all the books for them to try and get rid of, eh? This book is riveting. Writen like a modern day movie in some respects. Fast paced, exciting, very engaging writing style. It just sucks you right in.
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We're getting kinda far afield here...and it's mostly my fault. So...yeah, less rape more discussion of book bannings and the lack of consistently good literature as required reading in Englilish classrooms.
Personally I think there should be a list of books with a real quick synopsis that teachers go over with the kids at the start of the year to choose which ones they're going to read that year/semester. You might get lolfundies making an end run to ensure that certain books get continually ignored, but at least you'll likely be reading some quality shit that will help foster a love of reading in kids before they create negative associations with books. I actually cried at the end of Of Mice and Men. Hell, even now I'm getting all misty eyed just thinking about it. More of that level of quality in the classroom, please.
I don't think Of Mice and Men will fly to far these days. I'm reading now (8-week accelerated Lit course for college) and the way that the N-word gets thrown around in certain spots so casually.... granted the book was written in the 30s and it was a WAY different time then.
Does anyone else find destroying books, any book whatsoever, to be really inherently reprehensible? Like even if it's some mass-market airport paperback that's gonna be thrown out by the crate anyway, damaging it just feels wrong.
Maybe that's just my intellectual upbringing going all crazy?
Does anyone else find destroying books, any book whatsoever, to be really inherently reprehensible? Like even if it's some mass-market airport paperback that's gonna be thrown out by the crate anyway, damaging it just feels wrong.
Maybe that's just my intellectual upbringing going all crazy?
I'm the same. Hell, I can't even bring myself to write anything in the margins.
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FencingsaxIt is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understandingGNU Terry PratchettRegistered Userregular
Does anyone else find destroying books, any book whatsoever, to be really inherently reprehensible? Like even if it's some mass-market airport paperback that's gonna be thrown out by the crate anyway, damaging it just feels wrong.
Maybe that's just my intellectual upbringing going all crazy?
I'm the same. Hell, I can't even bring myself to write anything in the margins.
I have the worst time throwing books out. Even terrible books. I hardly have any room
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EDIT: There are some people who will try to ban anything that's not "the bible."
Also, there are people who will try to ban the bible.
Genius.
Fahrenheit 451 ends up a target for "banning" every few years at one school or another.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Some people can't see the forest for the trees.
ctrl+f
"god"
"bible"
"fuck"
"Damn"
"bitch"
"Christian"
oh my giddy aunt I'm outraged
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My god that's hilarious.
Yep. It's too bad that most English classes don't spend the banned book day to actually discuss the philosophical underpinnings of freedom of expression and to foster the understanding that all books have at one point or another been deemed objectionable and attempts were made to ban them. Including the Bible to try and pierce the lolfundies brain.
It's also too bad that complaints get lodged against good books that are controversial which kids have to read, but absolute shit like Atlas Shrugged and To Kill a Mockingbird get forced on kids without a peep of protest. It's amazing that I still enjoy a good book after all the crap that English teachers thought were literary masterpieces. Thank god for the library and my mom/grandpa.
Me. :P
Sorry if you're a fundie, please tell other fundies to stop being painfully dumb.
"You do realize that this book is defending Christianity, the Bible and free speech, right?"
To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book though
and I don't know any credible English teacher who would call Atlas Shrugged a classic; the clerisy seem to bear Ayn Rand little love
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To Kill a Mockingbird is a pretty good book with a horrible book taking up the first half of it.
I would have gone for:
inanimate, insensate, insentient, defunct, lifeless
But maybe I'm overly critical.
Come on.
Lolfundies is pretty stale by now.
lolfundies lolfundies.
Do fundies struggle with rational thought at all times? If you were in a position of power, would you deny a fundie employment? Do fundies have any good qualities?
Slurs are naughty.
They're two of the books that I had to read in HS and which I absolutely loathed. You can throw Gatsby in there as well if you'd like. Thankfully they weren't back to back to back and I had some reprieves with Of Mice and Men, Animal Farm and 1984, and, yes, Fahrenheit 451. On top of some other chaff that was just meh.
...damnit Lennie, why'd you have to go and...he....you
Now that!
Is!
Irony!
It's actually pretty rare for schools to assign Atlas Shrugged, except perhaps to get kids to write essays for the Ayn Rand Foundation essay contest for the sake of college money. The book is universally panned by the hoity-toity literary types who decide on school curricula.
Well, my school just sucks then. Or I had horrible luck with English teachers. Actually, it's probably the latter. My first semester, Senior year, was taught by a guy who didn't believe it possible for a man to get raped because sex is enjoyable.
Yeah.
Like in WWII, bands of female Russian soldiers went around raping German men as revenge during the Soviet advance.
Not like pretty ballerina Russians, but like shotputters and discus throwers.
Soo....he had no fear of dropping the soap in a prison shower?
a true hero
We have a forumer here who doesn't believe women can be raped for this reason, or, at least believes that a woman can't be injured/hurt physically by rape.
Nobody really broached the topic. Either out of the sheer insanity of it, or because he's a teacher and it's easier to ignore the crazy and try to get a good grade. I spent most of that class in the back reading old sci-fi books hidden in the textbook. My AP physics prof that year was pure awesome, though. We made hovercrafts one week, just for fun. So things balance out, I guess.
Where's that person who had a gif about ege02's posts about an "unreasonable amount of controversy"?
eh... that dude took it back.
but they're listening to every word I say
Personally I think there should be a list of books with a real quick synopsis that teachers go over with the kids at the start of the year to choose which ones they're going to read that year/semester. You might get lolfundies making an end run to ensure that certain books get continually ignored, but at least you'll likely be reading some quality shit that will help foster a love of reading in kids before they create negative associations with books. I actually cried at the end of Of Mice and Men. Hell, even now I'm getting all misty eyed just thinking about it. More of that level of quality in the classroom, please.
This right here. Of all the books for them to try and get rid of, eh? This book is riveting. Writen like a modern day movie in some respects. Fast paced, exciting, very engaging writing style. It just sucks you right in.
but they're listening to every word I say
I don't think Of Mice and Men will fly to far these days. I'm reading now (8-week accelerated Lit course for college) and the way that the N-word gets thrown around in certain spots so casually.... granted the book was written in the 30s and it was a WAY different time then.
Does anyone else find destroying books, any book whatsoever, to be really inherently reprehensible? Like even if it's some mass-market airport paperback that's gonna be thrown out by the crate anyway, damaging it just feels wrong.
Maybe that's just my intellectual upbringing going all crazy?
I'm the same. Hell, I can't even bring myself to write anything in the margins.