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Doping. How to tackle it?

BasarBasar IstanbulRegistered User regular
edited August 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
I searched the forum for "doping" considering someone else may have already started a discussion with the Olympics on right now but didn't find anything.

So I was checking out the news on Google and came across this, which really scared me:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/sports/2008/08/07/pleitgen.germany.doping.cnn

I knew doping was horrible for one's body but I never knew it could turn a woman into a man o_O

I know the media likes to portray doping as a mostly-communist state problem, and there may be some truth to that, I think I have read a couple of U.S. athletes pulled off the competition due to doping recently, amirite?

Anyways, one of my friends who has moved to China to teach English has been telling me about how hard it is to be an athlete in China. Apparently you don't have any say when it comes to when you wake up, what you eat, what you drink, when you sleep, etc... the discipline I have no problem with but apparently most of these athletes are forced fed whatever their government wants them to have in their body. FUCKED UP.

So I researched a little and found out the IOC will earn about $1.7 billion from the 2008 Olympics. Jebus.

With so much money, what else can be done to tackle the doping problem?

i live in a country with a batshit crazy president and no, english is not my first language

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    Better question, why bother to tackle it?

    We all want to see records broken, and let's face it the "home run" moments in sports are the most exciting. These athletes are already on supplements and all sorts of crazyness that separates them from the average person that it's not the "best among us" anymore it's a freak show.

    I say dope them all up and let's see where this goes, and when we can make a test tube athlete let's have at that also.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    We should be clear that "doping" is a really broad term that can include anything from regular old steroids up to draining your blood a few weeks before a competition and then giving yourself an infusion of your own blood just before the match/meet/game/whatever.

    There's really not much to be done except test all the athletes a few weeks before and then again as close to the event as possible. If you have an extremely low chance of getting away with it, it becomes less attractive a strategy.

    Plus, make them all watch that South Park episode. Taking drugs is just like pretending to be handicapped to win the Special Olympics.

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  • KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    up to draining your blood a few weeks before a competition and then giving yourself an infusion of your own blood just before the match/meet/game/whatever.

    Now..normally I'm a pretty smart guy, but the purpose for this is eluding me right now. How would that help an athlete?

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    psychotix wrote: »
    Better question, why bother to tackle it?

    We all want to see records broken, and let's face it the "home run" moments in sports are the most exciting. These athletes are already on supplements and all sorts of crazyness that separates them from the average person that it's not the "best among us" anymore it's a freak show.

    I say dope them all up and let's see where this goes, and when we can make a test tube athlete let's have at that also.
    Look at cycling, the Tour de France has been down the shitter up and down for years now. The moment one cyclist does something amazing everyone will think "oh, he can only do that because he injected himself with steroids". The depressing thing is: that's usually the case anyway.

    The fun thing about watching sports is that you see men and women putting their everything in excelling in something. You know they are just like yourself, they are just better in something than you are. This loses all value to me once I realise that they can only do what they do because they used some steroids or did some coke or whatever.

    The only solution to this devastating trend is that the sportsmen and women themselves decide that they no longer want to fuck their body up just to win that million dollars and eternal fame.

    When you win the Tour you never have to work a day in your life, can you blame someone for cheating to reach that?

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the olympics is almost a technological competition already. records are broken en masse whenever a new skate or swimming suit is invented and put into the mix. supplements and performance-enhancement are the norm during training. almost every sport uses technology. standardization is one way to try to combat this, but that stills means people can cheat. the only real downside to the drugs, in my mind, is that they are harmful to the athlete in the long run, sometimes enormously so.

    frankly i'd almost like to see an olympics where everything is permitted - drugs, technology, whatever. we could call it the megalympics.

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    The fun thing about watching sports is that you see men and women putting their everything in excelling in something. You know they are just like yourself, they are just better in something than you are. This loses all value to me once I realise that they can only do what they do because they used some steroids or did some coke or whatever.

    They are already on custom diets with scientists working on supplements and other radical means to push them past the limit. They aren't like us at all.

    We just drew the line in the sand at a certain point, which to me seems rather silly given that professional sports is already about people doing things to make themselves almost super human and hurting themselves in the process.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Kato wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    up to draining your blood a few weeks before a competition and then giving yourself an infusion of your own blood just before the match/meet/game/whatever.

    Now..normally I'm a pretty smart guy, but the purpose for this is eluding me right now. How would that help an athlete?

    The more blood you have the more red blood cells you have. The more red blood cells you have the greater the ability to distribute oxygen to the muscles.

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    psychotix wrote: »
    The fun thing about watching sports is that you see men and women putting their everything in excelling in something. You know they are just like yourself, they are just better in something than you are. This loses all value to me once I realise that they can only do what they do because they used some steroids or did some coke or whatever.

    They are already on custom diets with scientists working on supplements and other radical means to push them past the limit. They aren't like us at all.

    We just drew the line in the sand at a certain point, which to me seems rather silly given that professional sports is already about people doing things to make themselves almost super human and hurting themselves in the process.

    We draw the line at drugs and practices (like blood doping) that 1. are inherently dangerous and deadly and 2. we can actually regulate.

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  • PicardathonPicardathon Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Kato wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    up to draining your blood a few weeks before a competition and then giving yourself an infusion of your own blood just before the match/meet/game/whatever.

    Now..normally I'm a pretty smart guy, but the purpose for this is eluding me right now. How would that help an athlete?

    The more blood you have the more red blood cells you have. The more red blood cells you have the greater the ability to distribute oxygen to the muscles.

    More specifically, if you take out blood in your body your body starts making more to get back to a normal level. When you are back at a normal level you put in the infusion, thus creating an above average red blood cell count.

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