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Wheel Of Time movies. This should end well...

EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered User regular
edited October 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Universal has the rights now.

I didn't find another thread on this, so pardon if there is.

I just can't imagine this working out at all. Too lengthy. A better approach would've been the HBO/Song Of Ice And Fire idea.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    Man, I don't even know if I can bring myself to read the last book when it comes out.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Man, I don't even know if I can bring myself to read the last book when it comes out.

    I stopped around book 5. Just couldn't do it.

    Esh on
  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    oh dear god

    i can only imagine this being absolutely terrible and nonsensical

    unless they use it as only the vaguest of inspiration and absolutely dismember the story to make it coherent in shorter film (s), in which case it could quite possibly be an improvement

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So what? 1 1/2 hours of braid pulling, and another 1 1/2 of creepy gender politics? And a threesome?

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  • nuclearalchemistnuclearalchemist Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Ugh, the books went from good->mediocre->wtf is going on->no seriously, wtf is going on -> who the fuck is the main character anymore -> fuck it, just fuck it.....

    I can't imagine the movies being any better. Maybe they'll get Uwe Boll to direct....

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  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    oh dear god

    i can only imagine this being absolutely terrible and nonsensical

    unless they use it as only the vaguest of inspiration and absolutely dismember the story to make it coherent in shorter film (s), in which case it could quite possibly be an improvement

    It's an interesting world that could be the base for an interesting movie.

    They could do one of the stories from the History of the world, too. Like the battle on Dragonmount, or the uprising of Logain or one of the other False Dragons. A shorter story from the history of the world would probably be better suited for a movie and allow more room for studio preferences and junk like that without pissing off too much of the fanbase.

    They probably won't though.

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  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So what? 1 1/2 hours of braid pulling, and another 1 1/2 of creepy gender politics? And a threesome?

    You forgot an hour of skirt smoothing.

    God those books are full of pointless crap.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Ugh, the books went from pretty bad->worse->wtf is going on this is awful->no seriously, wtf is going on -> i'm reading this because i hate myself-> fuck it, just fuck it.....

    I can't imagine the movies being any better. Maybe they'll get Uwe Boll to direct....

    fixed

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Don't forget Rand going out of his way to make sure everyone knows he's trying not to have any emotions anymore.

    And nobody knowing what the fuck anyone in the world is up to, regardless of the fact that people can basically teleport.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So what? 1 1/2 hours of braid pulling, and another 1 1/2 of creepy gender politics? And a threesome?

    You forgot an hour of skirt smoothing.

    God those books are full of pointless crap.
    Shit, I knew there was something...

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  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I mean really, when the author has to include a glossary so you can keep track of all his made up words, half of which sound exactly the same, it's time to dial it back.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My friend used to get me to read the first book all the time. Then when he made it to the 3rd one he kept trying to get me to NOT read it.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Wasn't it like the 9th or 10th which was literally just the female characters bitching about how the male characters fucked everything up, while fucking up themselves?

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  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Eh, could be good, but then again it's essentially just a studio calling dibs. A lot of properties have had this done. Hell, HBO's still got dibs on ASoIaF, and raise your hand if you think we'll be seeing that soon.

    I'll definitely read the last book, I've been reading the series for about 15 years anyways and I want an ending. And Brandon Sanderson's not that bad a writer, his Mistborn stuff is pretty damn decently plotted and well-written.

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So what? 1 1/2 hours of braid pulling, and another 1 1/2 of creepy gender politics? And a threesome?

    You forgot an hour of skirt smoothing.

    God those books are full of pointless crap.
    Arms crossing under breasts.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Wasn't it like every goddamn book which was literally just the female characters bitching about how the male characters fucked everything up, while fucking up themselves?

    I fixed that up for you.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    GungHo wrote: »
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So what? 1 1/2 hours of braid pulling, and another 1 1/2 of creepy gender politics? And a threesome?

    You forgot an hour of skirt smoothing.

    God those books are full of pointless crap.
    Arms crossing under breasts.
    The sub/dom relationship... Okay, I think I see the attraction for some people now.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    This should end exactly as well as the books.

    The only good thing that can be said about the series is that it's better than Sword of Truth.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    This should end exactly as well as the books.

    The only good thing that can be said about the series is that it's better than Sword of Truth.
    Because that's such a high bar to begin with.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    i don't even know if i'd say wheel of time is better than Sword of Truth.

    it's hard to decide. they're both so awful for different reasons.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Eh, the movie rights have been passed around a few dozen times already. Wait, I think it was NBC that originally had them for a tv miniseries. So I guess they've come full circle.

    Eye of the World would probably make a decent movie, and I may go see it. I'll avoid anything afterwards.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    The sub/dom relationship... Okay, I think I see the attraction for some people now.

    Which book was it that had the whole island full of D/S women that somehow wasn't all about lesbians? I think that was the last book I read, got to the end enraged at being cockteased for like 500 pages.

    All the ones that came before that one were full of stoic dudes and self-righteous cunts, IIRC.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    The sub/dom relationship... Okay, I think I see the attraction for some people now.

    Which book was it that had the whole island full of D/S women that somehow wasn't all about lesbians? I think that was the last book I read, got to the end enraged at being cockteased for like 500 pages.

    All the ones that came before that one were full of stoic dudes and self-righteous cunts, IIRC.

    Every book since the 4th or so, when the Seanchan showed up.

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  • DiscoGobboDiscoGobbo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Man, when did it become trendy to hate the Wheel of Time so much? The level of universal vitriol in this thread is pretty amazing.

    I mean, I'll admit the series had a number of serious flaws as much as the next guy but...jesus dudes. :P

    As for any potential movie, I have considerable doubts. It's just too damn big. Maybe a smaller story set in the same world.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Its not that I hate the series. I've read them all and there's some good stuff in it, there's just so much filler in some of the books. I think it was about Lord of Chaos where I really started getting upset with it.

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  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Disliking things that are bad never goes out of style.

    To be fair, the first couple of books are okay. It just all goes to hell after that.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Part of the problem is taking more than 3 books to get where it's obvious the plot is going in the first place.

    Edit: Also, while not as creepy as Sword of Truth (now that is a high bar) the gender politics are a bit... weird.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    GungHo wrote: »
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    So what? 1 1/2 hours of braid pulling, and another 1 1/2 of creepy gender politics? And a threesome?

    You forgot an hour of skirt smoothing.

    God those books are full of pointless crap.
    Arms crossing under breasts.
    And sniffing

    I remember much sniffing

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    galenblade wrote: »
    Eh, could be good, but then again it's essentially just a studio calling dibs. A lot of properties have had this done. Hell, HBO's still got dibs on ASoIaF, and raise your hand if you think we'll be seeing that soon.

    I'll definitely read the last book, I've been reading the series for about 15 years anyways and I want an ending. And Brandon Sanderson's not that bad a writer, his Mistborn stuff is pretty damn decently plotted and well-written.

    Ice And Fire is getting there!

    From Martin's LJ. (June 13th, 2008)

    "The latest news on HBO front is that David Benioff and D.B. Weiss have turned in the second draft of the pilot script for A GAME OF THRONES, and their rewrite is presently being read and evaluated by the powers-that-be at HBO. In other words, it's the normal process, which is long and often slow. So far, the reports are good, and HBO seems to like what they're seeing... but no, there's no greenlight yet, A GAME OF THRONES remains a script in development, not a series in production.

    The one hard bit of news is that HBO has reached agreement with the BBC for them to come in as a partner on the series... IF it goes ahead. That's very cool news, and I'm excited and pleased to have the BBC involved... but even so, we're still in the crossed fingers stage here, not the shooting-off-fireworks stage.

    I get emails about the HBO adaptation of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE almost daily, by the way, so let me say a few words about that.

    Look, guys and girls, I appreciate all the enthusiasm and interest, but please stop sending me your resumes, your head shots, your audition tapes. We're not hiring anyone as yet. We won't be hiring anyone for some time, most likely. And should that day arrive when the show gets the greenlight and we start looking for a cast and crew, it won't be me doing the hiring and casting. I'll visit the set from time to time, I'm sure (how often may depend on whether we're shooting in Ireland, the Czech Republic, New Zealand, Rumania, or wherever), but the final decisions on these matters will be made by HBO, the BBC, the showrunners, and the director. I can't help you. Especially if you're not actually professionally involved in film and television, but are still "desperate to be involved in the show in any capacity, even just standing around in the background." I get a lot of those emails too. Those people who stand around in the background are called "extras," for what it's worth, and I'm not in charge of hiring them either. Again, we thank you for the love, but that's not how television works.

    I also get a constant stream of emails asking me for news about the HBO project. Guys, that's why I have a News page on my website, and that's why I post here. When there's some news to share, I share it. Honest. No news is no news. Sometimes long periods pass when nothing is happening, or things are happening behind the scenes that even I am not aware of. Whenever there is a significant development -- like the BBC coming aboard -- I will post it here. I'm not going to try to disseminate it in individual emails to whoever happens to write that day to ask what's new with HBO.

    Thanks for your patience. Thanks for your understanding. Keep your fingers crossed."

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Why is everyone always like, "You should read the wheel of time series...it's amazing!" and then I come into this thread and it's getting shit on?

    Poor taste on their part I assume?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How do they plan on filling a whole movie with all 10+ books? I doubt they'll be able to scratch even 60 minutes.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    SkyGheNe wrote: »
    Why is everyone always like, "You should read the wheel of time series...it's amazing!" and then I come into this thread and it's getting shit on?

    Poor taste on their part I assume?

    Let's put it this way: After 200 pages of Book 1, I accidentally left it on the Staten Island Ferry.

    I'm not big on Freudian psychology but in this case, I'm going to have to reiterate his "there are no accidents" hypothesis.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    How do they plan on filling a whole movie with all 10+ books? I doubt they'll be able to scratch even 60 minutes.

    What do you know, you're just a useless MAN!

    With a PENIS!

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Now sniff and smooth your skirt with your arms folded under your boobs yanking on your braid.

    SkyGheNe wrote: »
    Why is everyone always like, "You should read the wheel of time series...it's amazing!" and then I come into this thread and it's getting shit on?

    Poor taste on their part I assume?

    My most serious answer is there's about 4 books worth of pretty damn fine material strung out to 12 books.

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  • ErchamionErchamion Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So much hate in this thread. It's a cool world. The problem is that all of the characters are annoying as hell except for Thom, early Mat and early Min. Also, filler is indeed a problem.

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  • galenbladegalenblade Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Esh wrote: »
    galenblade wrote: »
    Eh, could be good, but then again it's essentially just a studio calling dibs. A lot of properties have had this done. Hell, HBO's still got dibs on ASoIaF, and raise your hand if you think we'll be seeing that soon.

    I'll definitely read the last book, I've been reading the series for about 15 years anyways and I want an ending. And Brandon Sanderson's not that bad a writer, his Mistborn stuff is pretty damn decently plotted and well-written.

    Ice And Fire is getting there!

    From Martin's LJ. (June 13th, 2008)

    Snip

    Still in the lengthy approval process, a far ways off. It could be good, but I won't hold my breath.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Erchamion wrote: »
    early Mat

    What.

    Mat was obnoxious as hell until his luck.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    DiscoGobbo wrote: »
    Man, when did it become trendy to hate the Wheel of Time so much? The level of universal vitriol in this thread is pretty amazing.

    I mean, I'll admit the series had a number of serious flaws as much as the next guy but...jesus dudes. :P

    As for any potential movie, I have considerable doubts. It's just too damn big. Maybe a smaller story set in the same world.

    I have read it all. I don't hate it, but he spent so long not getting to the point that I just can't read it any more.

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  • ToefooToefoo Los Angeles, CARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I actually enjoyed the first book a LOT! But I saw how much I had left to go in the series, threw my arms in the air and said "fuck it."

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  • ErchamionErchamion Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Erandus wrote: »
    Erchamion wrote: »
    early Mat

    What.

    Mat was obnoxious as hell until his luck.

    Well then lets go with mid-story Mat. He's cool as a general but all his personal stuff in the later books is just as annoying as perpetual braid-pulling and skirt smoothing.

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