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Overlord II - Overlord harder!

KlykaKlyka DO you have anySPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Games and Technology
It was just announced that one of my favorite games on the 360 is getting a sequel!

shamelessly stolen from IGN:
August 13, 2008 - Overlord, an original game by Codemasters, won over fans with its creative blend of humor and Pikmin-style gameplay and then went on to sell over a million copies. The call for a sequel was heard loud and clear and now Triumph Studios is hard at work with the title due out in 2009 for Xbox 360, PS3 and Games for Windows PC. To go along with this announcement, Codemasters has also revealed Overlord Dark Legend for Wii and Overlord Minions for DS. For details and screenshots on those titles, head over to stories here and here respectively.

Overlord II, "massively increases the scope of the original concept," according to Lennart Sas, director and Overlord lead at Triumph Studios. The game introduces a new Overlord, hinted at in the final scene of Overlord: Raising Hell, for a clash between him and a Roman-inspired empire which has plans to root out all magic and take over the world. The game moves beyond the fantasy realm of the first to something closer to our own, allowing the game's humor and satire to hit closer to home. Politics, environmental issues and more are up for parody in this game, though we wouldn't be surprised if a fart joke or two slip in.

New environments and new beasts are coming.
With the Glorious Empire as the foe and a new overlord brought into the fold, you can be sure you'll be seeing a more diverse set of environments. Sas told IGN, "We have new lands, from the icy (but rather festive) Nordberg where minions face up to vicious seals, to a new Magic Sanctuary Domain, where the magical creatures have retreated from the onslaught of the Empire, to the homelands and cities of the Glorious Empire itself."

The first Overlord game relied on a gameplay mechanic where you directly controlled the overlord who then orders around small legions of minions to solve puzzles and attack enemies. This style of game returns, but is expanded and improved for the sequel. Sas tells us that, "from the Netherworld you rise to gather an army of loyal Minions that are more destructive and much smarter than before -- now they can do even more things for their master; such as riding mounts, using war machines and sailing warships in world-changing battles." He also told us the team has "greatly improved" the controls and visuals to make the game even more attractive to a broad audience.

Minions can now ride mounts.
"We're really excited about shifting the world to a new era where a Roman-inspired Empire rises as the arch-enemy of the Overlord," says Lennart Sas, "which leads to an epic clash between the regimented forces of a sprawling state and the faster, harder, more manic minion horde."

Look at those little seals. Look at those eyes.
Now tell me you don't want your minions to skin them and get some nice fur coats.
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I am looking forward to this A LOT because the story/characters/world are again devised by Terry Pratchett's daughter Rhianna Pratchett and I am a sucker for everything Pratchett.
Also the first game was actually good and this one can only be bigger and better.

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  • EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Hah, awesome. For all its flaws Overlord was a solid enough game, and taking that and increasing the scope is more than welcome :D

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Seeing as the original has now sold over a million copies in spite of being a new IP and a medium budget game and also taking the fact that they have the groundwork set through the first game, I can only see Overlord 2 receiving a higher budget and be a better made game.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Wii version looks fugly as hell though.

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  • JutranjoJutranjo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    PRATCHETT? MUST BUY.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Didn't she write the first one too?

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yar.

    And she'll be writing Mirror's edge too.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    The Wii version looks fugly as hell though.

    Games don't have Wii versions for me.

    If you get my drift.

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  • GrudgeGrudge blessed is the mind too small for doubtRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Awesome, will buy again.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    Rhianna was also a video game journalist for a while IIRC, so I guess that's a double whammy.

    I missed Overlord being released. Saw loads of preview stuff for it then must've turned my back for a week or something.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Hmmm, the first one had lots of potential but kind of sucked. Hopefully this one will overcome those hurdles.

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  • InzignaInzigna Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Your thread title is full of win. Made me laugh way too hard.

    Oh shit, pun not intended.

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  • Igpx407Igpx407 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    This is good news.

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You better be actually evil in this one though.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BigDes wrote: »
    You better be actually evil in this one though.

    My minions drank people's beer and then pissed on their pumpkins.
    I also killed the entire Elven race and basically destroyed everything the Dwarves ever lived for.

    That was pretty evil.

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  • EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I don't know, I was expecting to be able to
    kidnap the only elven women left rather than just letting them die, and having another batch of servants - hell is that even a spoiler? Still dooming the race, but more populace for my tower!

    The fact that most of your enemies were pretty reprehensible people made your actions less evil than they should've been. Still had the opportunity to murder people and loot their homes, but I wanted to be overthrowing well-liked, goody-two-shoes regimes.

    I wonder what kind of antagonist this Empire is... but they sound a bit fascist and invasion-happy so far.

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  • Mr RayMr Ray Sarcasm sphereRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BigDes wrote: »
    You better be actually evil in this one though.
    So, what, slaughtering the villiage of spree (or heaven's peak)
    wasn't evil?
    Stealing the peasant's food
    wasn't evil?
    Burning down the elves sacred grove
    wasn't evil?
    Sacrificing the last elven women in existence for a big bag of gold, thus condemning their race to extinction,
    wasn't evil?

    So what exactly qualifies as "evil" then?

    [edit] Most people who claim overlord "wasn't evil enough" are the same people who didn't realise you have to lock onto "friendlies" before you can kill them.

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  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Edcrab wrote: »
    I don't know, I was expecting to be able to
    kidnap the only elven women left rather than just letting them die, and having another batch of servants - hell is that even a spoiler? Still dooming the race, but more populace for my tower!

    The fact that most of your enemies were pretty reprehensible people made your actions less evil than they should've been. Still had the opportunity to murder people and loot their homes, but I wanted to be overthrowing well-liked, goody-two-shoes regimes.

    I wonder what kind of antagonist this Empire is... but they sound a bit fascist and invasion-happy so far.

    Yeah exactly, if they make a game where the tag is be evil you don't make me fight other evil things, you make that world the most utopian world possible. You don't use corrupted heroes, you use actual heroes and then you set fire to children in front of them. Basically I want to be more Heath Ledger and less Jack Nicholson.

    EDIT: I think actively spoiling a game not everyone has played yet would count as evil.

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  • CarcharodontosaurusCarcharodontosaurus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    That settles it. I'm going to find and buy a copy of Overlord. Then I shall buy it and play the absolute Hell out of it in anticipation of Overlord 2.

    Also, from what little I've heard about the enemies in the game, I like to think of it like Pulp Fiction. Everyone is evil, and you get to have fun seeing how different types of evil interact with each other. Just because you kill a giant cannibal monster Halfling doesn't mean that you're still not the sort of person that the Devil would be unnerved by. It just means that that particular giant cannibal monster Halfling is about to be replaced by an altogether better kind of evil. 8-)

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  • TheFOOTSoldierTheFOOTSoldier Registered User new member
    edited August 2008
    I had a lot of fun with Overlord, and I'm looking forward to this one.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    That settles it. I'm going to find and buy a copy of Overlord. Then I shall buy it and play the absolute Hell out of it in anticipation of Overlord 2.

    Also, from what little I've heard about the enemies in the game, I like to think of it like Pulp Fiction. Everyone is evil, and you get to have fun seeing how different types of evil interact with each other. Just because you kill a giant cannibal monster Halfling doesn't mean that you're still not the sort of person that the Devil would be unnerved by. It just means that that particular giant cannibal monster Halfling is about to be replaced by an altogether better kind of evil. 8-)

    Don't forget to get "Raising Hell" the add-on too!

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    The Wii version looks fugly as hell though.

    Sadly true, much as I like the ideas behind it.
    A fairy-tale world is arguably more interesting than a generic Tolkein clone.

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  • WitchsightWitchsight Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Ugg, Overlord was the last game to make me seethe with rage and frustration. It was sort of my fault for forcing myself to finish a game that i stopped enjoying 5 hours into it...

    But it was equally its fault for the clunky minions and combat and THE FUCKING LACK OF ANY MAP WHATSOEVER. That was the worst offense to me. Not even a compass for when townspeople say "Oh, head East" because there is no East.

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  • bamjobamjo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I liked this game, but the PC port I played seemed quickly slapped together. It had all the things I have come to hate about shitty console ports, like enormous clunky menus and terrible controls. I'm sure it played better on a console, but as I don't own one I am stuck with whatever they shovel out the door for PC.

    The sequel looks cool, I hope they give it a better treatment when they port it over. I really like the concept, very Dungeon Keeper-esque.

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  • templewulftemplewulf The Team Chump USARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It just means that that particular giant cannibal monster Halfling is about to be replaced by an altogether better kind of evil. 8-)

    This village deserves...a better class of overlord.

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  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    No, the first one wasn't evil enough. I don't want to stop another evil empire, I want them to offer me a province and I'll go "fuck yeah" and then stab them in the back sometime later.

    And what's the deal with being thrown across the fucking room by a servant when I try to beat her? That's just not right. (To avoid outcry, I could of course have some male servants as well. That way, I'm beating everyone)

    It's like in Black and White where people sort of had to improvise to actually be evil during quests even though it didn't really register in game, they could only boast about it online.

    No, no... at least give me an Army of Light to slaughter whose graves I may later dance on.

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  • DrunkMcDrunkMc Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I didn't finish Overlord mainly because the quests were too vague and there was no map, so running around hoping to find a new path was kind of annoying. And getitng to places u needed green imps before u even found green imps was a kick in the junk too.

    If they tighten the game up a bit, add a god damn map, make your decisions really matter, and a better upgrade system I will be very happy.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Badass Freakin' Overlord!

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Hopefully they'll do something about lethal terrain. Whenever I was close to water I always lost a bunch of them while trying to move them around, expecially during battles.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    bamjo wrote: »
    I liked this game, but the PC port I played seemed quickly slapped together. It had all the things I have come to hate about shitty console ports, like enormous clunky menus and terrible controls. I'm sure it played better on a console, but as I don't own one I am stuck with whatever they shovel out the door for PC.

    The sequel looks cool, I hope they give it a better treatment when they port it over. I really like the concept, very Dungeon Keeper-esque.

    I trid the PC demo of Overlord and I don't remember the menus as being particularly clunky. As for the controls, the game is 100% compatible with the 360 controller.

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  • MrPhilMrPhil MrPhil Arlington, VARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I played the demo and didn't really find it that interesting. I certainly didn't feel like I was the Overlord. I felt more like a foremen of a very ugly mob. "You go bash that.. and that... and that... and that... and that... okay.. good work."

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fireflash wrote: »
    Hopefully they'll do something about lethal terrain. Whenever I was close to water I always lost a bunch of them while trying to move them around, expecially during battles.

    I found the "carry the big thing" missions always ended up with the minions getting stuck and usually some giant insect or something would come up and kill all of them as they try to move the object.

    In short, lots of bugs in the game and death came easy.

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I dunno how I feel about this. I kinda got attached to my old, clunky, silent overlord. Having a new one, and having one of the old mistresses as his mother, seems weird to me.

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  • Ziac45Ziac45 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Oh god do I want to have my browns riding wolves into battle.. Its like a dream come true.

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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I hope the AI is better. Zerging was fun and all, but I wanted my guys to employ a little strategy...

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Overlord was so much fun for a few hours, then it became terribly repetitive and frustrating. I hope they solve that in the sequel.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    I got it on the PC, downloaded an unlimited minion trainer and laid waste to everything with 25 of each type.

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MrPhil wrote: »
    I played the demo and didn't really find it that interesting. I certainly didn't feel like I was the Overlord. I felt more like a foremen of a very ugly mob. "You go bash that.. and that... and that... and that... and that... okay.. good work."

    I will assume you have not played Dungeon Keeper.


    But I really need to get a hold of the first Overlord before I can judge.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    theSquid wrote: »
    No, the first one wasn't evil enough. I don't want to stop another evil empire, I want them to offer me a province and I'll go "fuck yeah" and then stab them in the back sometime later.

    And what's the deal with being thrown across the fucking room by a servant when I try to beat her? That's just not right. (To avoid outcry, I could of course have some male servants as well. That way, I'm beating everyone)

    It's like in Black and White where people sort of had to improvise to actually be evil during quests even though it didn't really register in game, they could only boast about it online.

    No, no... at least give me an Army of Light to slaughter whose graves I may later dance on.
    Yeah you should have to kill actual bands of rag tag heroes who banded together despite their differences to put a stop to your evil.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I have the PC version of the original, though I never bothered to beat it. I was somewhat amazed that using the mouse to sweep didn't completely suck, even though it probably should have. Thinking about it, though, I suppose a mouse would give you more precision than having to inch around with a thumbstick.

    I loved the level design, I wish that Mythos would have taken a few cues from it. Having stuff lying around just to be smashed is awesome.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    theSquid wrote: »
    No, the first one wasn't evil enough. I don't want to stop another evil empire, I want them to offer me a province and I'll go "fuck yeah" and then stab them in the back sometime later.

    And what's the deal with being thrown across the fucking room by a servant when I try to beat her? That's just not right. (To avoid outcry, I could of course have some male servants as well. That way, I'm beating everyone)

    It's like in Black and White where people sort of had to improvise to actually be evil during quests even though it didn't really register in game, they could only boast about it online.

    No, no... at least give me an Army of Light to slaughter whose graves I may later dance on.
    Yeah you should have to kill actual bands of rag tag heroes who banded together despite their differences to put a stop to your evil.

    shit just follow the evil overlord list and you can't go wrong

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