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Video Game Sales Thread - Nintendo/Microsoft Post Profits, Sony/EA In The Red

toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Games and Technology
Q2 Financial Reports (July - Sept. '08)
Microsoft wrote:
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY09/earn_rel_q1_09.mspx
Note: July - Sept is Q1 for Microsoft

Entertainment and Devices Division

Net profit (Q1): $178 million (+6.5% over Q1 '07)
Nintendo wrote:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2008/081030e.pdf

Net profit (first 6 months of fiscal year, Q1+Q2): $2.54 billion

Wii Hardware
Apr-Sept 08 | LTD | Forecast LTD Mar 09
10.10M | 34.55M | 51.95M

Nintendo DS Hardware
Apr-Sept 08| LTD | Forecast LTD Mar 09
13.73M | 84.33M | 101.1M

Wii WW LTD -
Hardware - 34.55m
Software - 229.85m
Attach rate - 6.65

NDS WW LTD -
Hardware - 84.33m
Software - 454.63m
Attach rate - 5.39
Sony wrote:
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/08q2_sony.pdf

Gaming Division

Net profit (Q2): -$379 million

Q2 Hardware:
PS3 - 2.43m
PS2 - 2.5m
PSP - 3.18m

Q2 Software:
PS3 - 21.1m
PS2 - 23.1m
PSP - 11.8m

WW LTD Hardware:
PS3 - 16.8m
PS2 - 135.63m
PSP - 46.18m

WW LTD Software:
PS3 - 115.2m
PS2 - 1436.4m
PSP - 180.64

WW LTD Attach Rate:
PS3 - 6.85
PS2 - 10.59
PSP - 3.91
EA wrote:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/081030/20081030006325.html

Net profit (Q2): -$310 million

Q2 Software:
Madden 09 - 4.5m
Spore - 2m in 3 weeks


Platform Net Revenue Mix (as a % of Net Revenue)
X360 25%
PS3 11%
PS2 6%
Wii 4%
PC 10%
DS 5%
PSP 4%



NPD Coverage: August 31st - October 4th (5 weeks)

Wii: 687k
NDS: 536.8k
360: 347.2k
PSP: 238.1k
PS3: 232.4k
PS2: 173.5k


360 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 1 610K
WII WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 2 518K
360 ROCK BAND 2 MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS Sep-08 3 363K
WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 4 353K
PS3 STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 5 325K
360 MERCENARIES 2: WORLD IN FLAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 6 297K
WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 7 243K
360 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 8 224K
WII STAR WARS: THE FORCE UNLEASHED LUCASARTS Sep-08 9 223K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 10 158K


Q1 Financial Reports



Japan 10/13 - 10/19 (Media - Create)
For more info than you'll ever need on Japan+games+data, check here

01. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) 92,000 / NEW
02. [NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon) 72,000 / 1,754,000
03. [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida Or 2 (Sony) 59,000 / NEW
04. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) 51,000 / 1,010,000
05. [NDS] Culdcept DS (SEGA) 50,000 / NEW
06. [PS2] Kidou Senshi Gundam 00: Gundam Meisters (Namco Bandai) 43,000 / NEW
07. [PS2] Shin Sangoku Musou 5 Special (KOEI) 27,000 / 184,000
08. [PSP] Macross Ace Frontier (Namco Bandai) 26,000 / 130,000
09. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) 18,000 / 2,740,000
10. [PS2] Super Robot Wars Z (Namco Bandai) 13,000 / 462,000

11. [WII] Daikaijuu Battle: Ultra Coliseum (Namco Bandai)
12. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
13. [NDS] Dragonball DS (Namco Bandai)
14. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5)
15. [NDS] Daigasso! Band Brothers DX (Nintendo)
16. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
17. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (Capcom)
18. [PS2] Powerful Major League 3 (Konami)
19. [NDS] Kanji Brain 2 + Dictionary (IE Institute)
20. [WII] One Piece Unlimited Cruise: Episode 1 (Namco Bandai)
21. [WII] Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces (Namco Bandai)
22. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
23. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master 2: The Seven Island Adventure (Namco Bandai)
24. [NDS] World Destruction (SEGA)
25. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo)
26. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
27. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
28. [NDS] Intuition! (Rocket)
29. [NDS] Beautiful Letter Training DS (Nintendo)
30. [PSP] Shinobido PSP (Spike)
[B][U]Hardware | This Week | Last Week | Last 4 Weeks |    YTD    |    LTD     [/U][/B]
DS       |    31,914 |    42,385 |      193,388 | 2,438,705 | 23,611,759
PSP      |    23,901 |    26,045 |      104,291 | 2,833,146 | 10,498,223
WII      |    22,877 |    25,330 |      104,442 | 2,238,365 |  6,854,504
360      |     7,763 |     8,271 |       41,102 |   204,929 |    713,374
PS2      |     6,982 |     8,618 |       33,168 |   398,011 | 21,325,051
PS3      |     5,734 |     7,232 |       29,397 |   695,216 |  2,336,892


PAL Region Software Charts - Week 39 (9/21 - 9/27)
Current week + links to previous charts

UK: 9/21 - 9/27
UK wrote:
The top 3 games in the All Formats Chart remain the same for a second week as Lucasarts’ ‘Star Wars: The Force Unleashed’ holds on to No1 despite a 38% drop in sales.

Nintendo’s ‘Wii Fit’ at No2 is continuing to shape up nicely, registering its 3rd largest sales week ever with a 75% rise in sales, while ‘Mario Kart Wii’ is a non-mover at No3 (sales up 26%). Ubisoft’s ‘Brothers in Arms: Hell’s Highway’ enters the battlefield at No4, only 2,250 sales behind Nintendo (65% of sales on Xbox 360, 35% on PS3), while Disney Interactive Studios has this weeks only other All Formats Top 10 new entry with ‘Pure’ at No8. This week last year there were 4 All Formats Top 10 new entries, including ‘Halo 3’ at No1 and ‘FIFA 08’ at No2. EA only have one Top 10 game this week with ‘Tiger Woods PGA Tour 09’ down one place at No5, as ‘Mercenaries 2: World in Flames’ drops from No6 to No11, however ‘FIFA 09’ should kick start things for the big US publisher when it is launched next week. The ‘Wii Fit’ influenced game ‘Family Trainer’ from Namco-Bandai/Atari debuts at No20, proving that even with renewed stock of the Nintendo original, there is a market for similar fitness titles on Wii.

01 (03) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
02 (04) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
03 (01) [360] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Lucasarts)
04 (02) [PS3] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Lucasarts)
05 (__) [360] Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway (Ubisoft)
06 (07) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
07 (06) [WII] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Lucasarts)
08 (__) [PS3] Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway (Ubisoft)
09 (09) [WII] Big Beach Sports (Thq)
10 (10) [WII] Carnival: Funfair Games (Take 2)
11 (__) [360] Pure (Disney Interactive Studios)
12 (05) [PC] Warhammer Online: Age Of Reckoning (Electronic Arts)
13 (08) [PC] Spore (Electronic Arts)
14 (17) [PS2] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Lucasarts)
15 (12) [NDS] Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
16 (13) [WII] Guitar Hero Iii: Legends Of Rock (Activision Blizzard)
17 (14) [NDS] Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
18 (15) [WII] Tiger Woods Pga Tour 09 (Electronic Arts)
19 (__) [WII] Family Trainer (Atari)
20 (__) [WII] Sports Island (Konami)
21 (25) [360] Tiger Woods Pga Tour 09 (Electronic Arts)
22 (11) [360] Mercenaries 2: World In Flames (Electronic Arts)
23 (16) [PC] Crysis Warhead (Electronic Arts)
24 (27) [PS3] Tiger Woods Pga Tour 09 (Electronic Arts)
25 (20) [WII] Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Sega)
26 (19) [360] Too Human (Microsoft)
27 (__) [360] Halo 3 (Microsoft)
28 (22) [NDS] Guitar Hero: On Tour (Activision Blizzard)
29 (26) [NDS] Imagine: Teacher (Ubisoft)
30 (31) [WII] Super Smash Bros: Brawl (Nintendo)
31 (__) [NDS] Puzzler Collection (Ubisoft)
32 (23) [WII] Sports Party (Ubisoft)
33 (28) [NDS] Carnival: Funfair Games (Take 2)
34 (__) [PS3] Pure (Disney Interactive Studios)
35 (__) [NDS] Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood (Sega)
36 (__) [PC] Civilization Iv: Colonization (Take 2)
37 (18) [PS3] Mercenaries 2: World In Flames (Electronic Arts)
38 (30) [NDS] Cooking Mama 2 (505 Games)
39 (34) [NDS] Spore Creatures (Electronic Arts)
40 (37) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)

Wii = 13
DS = 10
360 = 7
PS3 = 5
PC = 4
PS2 = 1
Ireland: 9/21 - 9/27
Ireland wrote:
01 (01) Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Lucasarts)
02 (02) Tiger Woods Pga Tour 09 (Electronic Arts)
03 (__) Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway (Ubisoft)
04 (04) Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
05 (03) Wii Fit (Nintendo)
06 (08) Wii Play (Nintendo)
07 (05) Mercenaries 2: World In Flames (Electronic Arts)
08 (18) Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures (Lucasarts)
09 (10) Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (Konami)
10 (07) TNA Impact! (Midway)
11 (17) Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
12 (12) Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Sega)
13 (__) Ben 10: Protector Of Earth (D3p)
14 (13) The Simpsons Game (Electronic Arts)
15 (14) Fifa 08 (Electronic Arts)

16 (06) Warhammer Online: Age Of Reckoning (Electronic Arts)
17 (20) Wall-E (THQ)
18 (15) Carnival: Funfair Games (Take 2)
19 (19) Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision Blizzard)
20 (__) Guitar Hero III: Legends Of Rock (Activision Blizzard)
Netherlands: 9/21 - 9/27
01 (__) [360] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Activision)
02 (__) [PS3] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Activision)
03 (01) [WII] Mario Kart (Nintendo)
04 (03) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
05 (04) [PC] Warhammer Online/age Of Reckoning (Electronic Arts)
06 (02) [PC] Spore (Electronic Arts)
07 (__) [WII] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Activision)
08 (__) [PC] Crysis Warhead (Electronic Arts)
09 (08) [WII] Sports Island (Konami)
10 (__) [PS2] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Activision)
Germany: 9/7 - 9/13
Germany wrote:
01 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
03 (03) [NDS] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
04 (09) [PS2] Naruto Ultimate Ninja 3 (Namco Bandai)
05 (05) [NDS] More Brain Training from Dr. Kawashima (Nintendo)
06 (04) [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
07 (__) [PS3] Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
08 (08) [NDS] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Sega)
09 (__) [NDS] Dinosaur King (Sega)
10 (__) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
Australia: 9/7 - 9/13
Australia wrote:
01 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
02 (03) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
03 (02) [PC] Spore (Electronic Arts)
04 (04) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
05 (06) [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)
06 (__) [PS2] Wall-E (THQ)
07 (__) [360] Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (Electronic Arts)
08 (05) [NDS] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
09 (__) [NDS] Barbie as the Island Princess (Activision)
10 (__) [PS3] Call of Duty 3 (Activision)
New Zealand: 9/7 - 9/13
01 (01) [PC] Spore (Electronic Arts)
02 (__) [360] Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (Electronic Arts)
03 (02) [PC] The Sims 2: Apartment Life (Electronic Arts)
04 (04) [PS2] Rugby 2008 (Electronic Arts)
05 (05) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
06 (03) [PS3] Grand Theft Auto IV (Take 2)
07 (__) [PS3] Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (Electronic Arts)
08 (10) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
09 (06) [360] Grand Theft Auto IV (Take 2)
10 (09) [PC] The Sims 2 (Electronic Arts)
Denmark: 9/7 - 9/13
Denmark wrote:
01 (01) Spore (Electronic Arts)
02 (02) The Sims 2: Apartment Life (Electronic Arts)
03 (03) Wall-E (Thq)
04 (05) Guitar Hero III: Legends Of Rock (Activision Blizzard)
05 (04) FIFA 08 (Electronic Arts)
06 (10) Counter-strike: Source (Electronic Arts)
07 (08) Grand Theft Auto IV (K.e. Media)
08 (__) Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (Nordisk Film)
09 (09) Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures (Activision Blizzard)
10 (06) Mercenaries 2: World In Flames (Electronic Arts)
11 (07) Need For Speed: Prostreet (Electronic Arts)
12 (12) Madden NFL 09 (Electronic Arts)
13 (13) Pixeline: Trafiksikker (Krea Medie)
14 (18) Counter-strike 1: Anthology (Electronic Arts)
15 (__) The Sims 2: Freetime (Electronic Arts)
16 (__) Warcraft III: Reign Of Chaos (Activision Blizzard)
17 (17) Pixeline 6: For Fulde Sejl (Krea Medie)
18 (__) The Sims 2: Pets (Electronic Arts)
19 (__) World Of Warcraft: Battle Chest (Activision Blizzard)
20 (14) Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
France: 9/14 - 9/20
France wrote:
01 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
02 (02) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
03 (__) [PS3] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (LucasArts)
04 (__) [WII] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (LucasArts)
05 (__) [360] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (LucasArts)
Spain: 9/14 - 9/20
Spain wrote:
01 (__) [PS3] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Lucasarts)
02 (__) [PC] Warhammer Online: Age Of Reckoning (Electronic Arts)
03 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
04 (__) [360] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Lucasarts)
05 (02) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
06 (__) [WII] Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (Lucasarts)
07 (04) [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
08 (03) [PC] The Sims 2: Apartment Life (Electronic Arts)
09 (06) [NDS] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What to Eat ? (Nintendo)
10 (07) [PS3] Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (Electronic Arts)

Italy: 7/28 - 8/3
Italy wrote:
Hardware - July 2008
DS 100,000
PSP 35,830
WII 30,180
PS3 15,120
PS2 13,910
360 13,330

01 (01) [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo)
02 (02) [NDS] Guitar Hero: On Tour (Activision)
03 (__) [PS3] Soulcalibur 4 (Ubisoft)
04 (03) [WII] Mario Kart (Nintendo)
05 (04) [NDS] Cooking Mama 2 (505 Games)
06 (05) [NDS] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
07 (__) [360] Soulcalibur 4 (Ubisoft)
08 (13) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
09 (14) [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
10 (06) [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)
11 (11) [NDS] Imagine Babies (Ubisoft)
12 (08) [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness (Nintendo)
13 (09) [NDS] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What to Eat ? (Nintendo)
14 (07) [NDS] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time (Nintendo)
15 (12) [NDS] Pokemon Diamond (Nintendo)


Older NPD Info:
Hardware US LTD
NDS: 22.44m
PSP: 12.71m
Wii: 12.548.000
360: 11.242.000
PS3: 5.494.000

US 2008 YTD
WII: 5.168.000
PS3: 2.253.000
360: 2.088.000


Software LTDs (US)
Wii Play: 6.852.000
Mario Kart Wii: 3.086.000
Wii Fit: 2.346.000

August 3rd - August 30th (4-weeks)

NDS: 518.3k
Wii: 453.0k
PSP: 253.0k
360: 195.2k
PS3: 185.4k
PS2: 144.1k


360 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 1.0mm
PS3 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 643K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 424.5K
WII WII FIT NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 394.9K
WII MARIO KART NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 328.7K
WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 200.2K
360 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA Jul-08 174K
360 TOO HUMAN MICROSOFT Aug-08 168.2K
WII MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 115.8K
NDS GUITAR HERO: ON TOUR ACTIVISION BLIZZARD Jun-08 111.2K
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    slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Good Lord, Guitar Hero DS charts again? Impressive. #3 no less.

    Also, nice, Wii Rock Band charts yet again.



    Hey! Civ Revo is up there! Nice!



    re: hw sales - nothing surprising there. It'll be interesting to see who ended up being the closest.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I half exected PS3 SC4 to outsell the 360 one. Vader > Yoda any day of the week.

    Also, where is MGS4?

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    ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Rankings here

    Pachter was utterly schooled. :lol:

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    Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Wow, PS3/360 gap narrowed considerably.

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    slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Also, where is MGS4?

    Holy crap.

    It pulled 774.6K sales in the first month.

    And dropped completely out of the top 10?

    Jesus.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fuck the PSP screwed me. Everything else was damn near spot on but I just threw that in there forgetting it's actually a viable platform now. shit.

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    toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Æthelred wrote: »
    Rankings here

    Pachter was utterly schooled. :lol:

    Nooooooo JC took my crown.

    Using the old method for predictions, here's the finally tally. I don't have figures for everyone, I think I'm missing 3 or 4 people.
    JCRooks 84
    ArcSyn 102.68
    toxk_02 104
    Xaquin 126.9
    cloudeagle 136.9
    RainbowDespair 155
    greeble 171
    The_Scarab 247.7
    galenblade 301
    EggyToast 335
    Xagarath 336

    Little different but this was a really tight race, 7 people within 100k of each other.

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    JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Woo! I knew one of these months my super-awesome NPD spreadsheet would do me good!

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    Xbox LIVE, Steam, Twitter, etc. ...
    Gamertag: Rooks
    - Don't add me, I'm at/near the friend limit :)

    Steam: JC_Rooks

    Twitter: http://twitter.com/JiunweiC

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Employees of Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony are exempt from the competition I'm afraid.

    :D

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    PataPata Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    slash000 wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Also, where is MGS4?

    Holy crap.

    It pulled 774.6K sales in the first month.

    And dropped completely out of the top 10?

    Jesus.

    That doesn't surprise me.

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    ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    JC's actually half-way down the 360 leaderboard; tsk, doesn't even know his own product..

    Seriously though, what a complete and utter wash-out for Pachter. And EEDAR - what happened to the knowledge gained from being privy to early sales..? Evidently that didn't help them. Their score is slightly affected by them not giving PS2 numbers, but if you check the "Minus PS2" leaderboard, it only gets them above Pachter.

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    JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Employees of Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony are exempt from the competition I'm afraid.

    :D

    No fair giving myself a free game. :)

    The question is ... who is second? It's different depending if we use the website or toxk_02's list. Not sure why though, seems like the calculations should be the same, unless different weights are being applied.

    Btw, the website is awesome. I love seeing how close people were.

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    toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Also, where is MGS4?
    Good question, from 1m in June (bundled) to less than 147k in July...

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    ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How do you work out the scores with your spreadsheet, toxk? They don't look like percentages, so we're most likely using different calculations.

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    toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    JCRooks wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Employees of Microsoft, Nintendo or Sony are exempt from the competition I'm afraid.

    :D

    No fair giving myself a free game. :)

    The question is ... who is second? It's different depending if we use the website or toxk_02's list. Not sure why though, seems like the calculations should be the same, unless different weights are being applied.

    Btw, the website is awesome. I love seeing how close people were.
    Well I'm still recovering from your "generosity" last month, let someone else in on the fun.

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    JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Æthelred wrote: »
    JC's actually half-way down the 360 leaderboard; tsk, doesn't even know his own product..

    While I'm happy to see the 360 go above 200K in a 4-week month, I was expecting it to go back to the previous 4-week levels. I did not think the SKU pricing or the E3 announcements were going to generate that much in extra sales, since it's the summer and I imagine most folks will put off their purchases till the Fall. But I guess I was wrong. I equally underestimated both the 360 and PS3 sales.

    However, my Wii and DS estimates were surprisingly on target.

    Edit: Oh, and for the record, I work on the Windows Games (GFW, Casual) side of things. I'm supposed to shun consoles or something. :)

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    toxk_02 wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Also, where is MGS4?
    Good question, from 1m in June (bundled) to less than 147k in July...
    Is it really an expectation that MGS is supposed to be ubiquitous? It really struck me as being more of a specialty title made for a large, but not overwhelming fanbase.

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    ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    JCRooks wrote: »
    However, my Wii and DS estimates were surprisingly on target.

    What's quite interesting is that you're not number one for any of the individual consoles. It's your consistently being near the top that gets you the overall victory.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It's the same story as last year.

    360 has shoved all of its system selling releases into a very short furious fall period. There is nothing in the summer that will sell the console. I guess its a strategy or something or just a symptom of the developer suport it has.

    PS3 just had MGS4, arguably more important to the system than Halo 3 was to the 360. I'm not reading anything into these numbers. Everything was down.

    What is good is Civ Rev making cash all over the place. That style of game to break top 10 is huge.

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    toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How do you work out the scores with your spreadsheet, toxk? They don't look like percentages, so we're most likely using different calculations.
    They're differences, using absolute values to account for going over or under.

    So the NDS was 608. If you guessed 590, your score is 18 (608-590). Same if you guessed 626.

    Then I just tally all the differences, lowest score wins. The format is stolen straight from neogaf's monthly contest, I'm not original enough for anything else.

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    ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    toxk_02 wrote: »
    Æthelred wrote: »
    How do you work out the scores with your spreadsheet, toxk? They don't look like percentages, so we're most likely using different calculations.
    They're differences, using absolute values to account for going over or under.

    So the NDS was 608. If you guessed 590, your score is 18 (608-590). Same if you guessed 626.

    I see. The website would work that out as (18/608)*100 = 2.96% percentage error. Then add up all six errors (one for each console) and divide by six for an average. ArcSyn is next in line on both our systems if you're not bothered about winning again, so that works out okay.

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    MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Nothing shocking here. Nice to see Civilization chart.

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    CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How is Rock Band for the Wii anyhow? Good deal?

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    wheee I did better then dead last

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    Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MS gets their revenge in Japan this week though :D

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Campion wrote: »
    How is Rock Band for the Wii anyhow? Good deal?

    meh.

    I played it on a TV that made it lag like crazy for some reason, so I didn't enjoy it much. I guess it's ok though.

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    MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Wait a minute... didnt MS drop the price for July? Wasnt there a huge firesale of the 20 gigs and arcades? What happened?

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    Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Wait a minute... didnt MS drop the price for July? Wasnt there a huge firesale of the 20 gigs and arcades? What happened?
    Not enough people buying replacements anymore :P

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    SakeidoSakeido Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    toxk_02 wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Also, where is MGS4?
    Good question, from 1m in June (bundled) to less than 147k in July...

    I never understood why people thought it was going to shift a huge amount of units.. it was never going to approach any of the real big AAA console sellers in sales (Halo, GOW, etc). One problem: it is for the hardcore. The other problem: it was not very good.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MGS4 did so well that it is uncharted.

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    slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Campion wrote: »
    How is Rock Band for the Wii anyhow? Good deal?

    Just wait for RB2. RB1 Wii is gimped (lacks modes, features), but Harmonix is promising to make RB2 "fully featured" for the wii. Also if you wait and get the RB2 set of instruments, you'll be getting the improved ones and the fancy drumset that is capable of attaching optional cymbals. Obviously you'd get the 360 or PS3 version as a priority, but if you have neither of those consoles and do own a Wii, wait for Rb2.

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    bigwahbigwah Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I was actually pretty spot on... for the handhelds. Not bad for a WAG.

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MGS4 did so well that it is uncharted.

    snake's fortune??

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    Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Alternative explanation:

    The prices are still absolutely too high. The two bottom SKUs are at or just under the maximum launch price of previous (successful) consoles. This far from launch, that is not acceptable.

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    CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    slash000 wrote: »
    Campion wrote: »
    How is Rock Band for the Wii anyhow? Good deal?

    Just wait for RB2. RB1 Wii is gimped (lacks modes, features), but Harmonix is promising to make RB2 "fully featured" for the wii. Also if you wait and get the RB2 set of instruments, you'll be getting the improved ones and the fancy drumset that is capable of attaching optional cymbals. Obviously you'd get the 360 or PS3 version as a priority, but if you have neither of those consoles and do own a Wii, wait for Rb2.

    Sounds good, November 18th, eh? I can wait for that. Thanks!

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    MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Alternative explanation:

    The prices are still absolutely too high. The two bottom SKUs are at or just under the maximum launch price of previous (successful) consoles. This far from launch, that is not acceptable.

    That doesnt account for the fact that the PS3 still outsold it and is almost twice as expensive with the pricecut.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I find it very hard to believe that RB2 will actually deliver. They had their chance with RB on the Wii and they completely dropped the ball.

    I am suggesting that anyone who wants a band game this fall and has a Wii to get GH IV for the Wii.

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    slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    It's the same story as last year.

    360 has shoved all of its system selling releases into a very short furious fall period. There is nothing in the summer that will sell the console. I guess its a strategy or something or just a symptom of the developer suport it has.

    Pretty much the reason why the 360 sales are so constant in the non-holiday months. For better or worse.

    Even though this was a 'clearance' sale, they should have combined it with a major release like they did with their last price drops. Even though it's not technically a 'price drop.'

    hopefully they'll officially drop the price by that much this fall, but I doubt they'll do it.

    PS3 just had MGS4, arguably more important to the system than Halo 3 was to the 360. I'm not reading anything into these numbers.

    Pretty much. MGS4 was extremely important. I'm sorta surprised not to see it chart at all the month after its release. I guess when hype is pent up that much, for that long, it sort of bursts when the game comes out (to great sales as a result, initially) and then dies almost immediately.



    Everything was down.

    Not really. Sales were pretty normal if you account for the 4-week period (check the comparisons of the sales-per-week rates) . Some are slightly down and some are slightly up. Except the PS3, which boomed last month b/c of MGS4 and is now back to normal

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    MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I find it very hard to believe that RB2 will actually deliver. They had their chance with RB on the Wii and they completely dropped the ball.

    I am suggesting that anyone who wants a band game this fall and has a Wii to get GH IV for the Wii.


    They didnt drop the ball... they did the best with what they had to work with.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Alternative explanation:

    The prices are still absolutely too high. The two bottom SKUs are at or just under the maximum launch price of previous (successful) consoles. This far from launch, that is not acceptable.

    That doesnt account for the fact that the PS3 still outsold it and is almost twice as expensive with the pricecut.

    The 20gb was discontinued. It was not a permanent price drop, it was selling redundant stock until it was completely sold out.

    Considering stores were told not to buy in 20gbs and were not sent any for weeks before the actual drop you can assume Microsoft made the smart business decision and did not have many left over at the lower price but instead sold them all ahead of time at the higher one.



    Also:


    Ah my mistake. Forgot it was 4 weeks.

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