Who has Windows XP x64?

Soggychicken

How is this OS in terms of software compatibility? I hear that most of the driver issues have been fixed, but will I run into problems with games these days?

taliosfalcon

xp 64 driver compatibility is still absolute shit compared to vista 64, if you want 64 go vista.

Silvoculous

Soggychicken wrote: »

but will I run into problems with games these days?

Probably.

Stay on the safe side and forego 64-bit XP, which was more experimental in nature than anything else anyway. 64-bit Vista = polished and sublime. I'm using it and haven't had a single problem with anything I used before.

JohnDoe

If you're going 64 bit, why choose XP? Vista 64 would have much better compatibilty and probably get more driver support in the future while XP64 stagnates.

Daedalus

taliosfalcon wrote: »

xp 64 driver compatibility is still absolute shit compared to vista 64, if you want 64 go vista.

Yeah, this. I tried XP64. Turns out that while plenty of companies make Vista64 drivers, a whole bunch decided to just skip XP64. Stay far away.

Soggychicken

Thanks. Vista it is.

wunderbar

TaliosFalcon and I actually saw someone runnign XP x64 in real life last weekend. It was a horrible clusterfuck trying to get supreme commander patched so we could all play. After an hour I walked away shaking my head, then laughed for 2 minutes, cried for 3 minutes and then went about my business.

It was the worst computing experience I've had since Windows ME. I've never run either OS, but trying to make either OS actually do things made me want to kick a puppy.

Zell

wunderbar wrote: »

TaliosFalcon and I actually saw someone runnign XP x64 in real life last weekend. It was a horrible clusterfuck trying to get supreme commander patched so we could all play. After an hour I walked away shaking my head, then laughed for 2 minutes, cried for 3 minutes and then went about my business..

Uh that's just how Supreme Commander is. Also, Supreme Commander is part of the "games for Windows" thing, which means that it works in 64 bit unpatched.

Supreme Commander's patching system is one of the many reasons I just play Spring.

wunderbar

Zell wrote: »

wunderbar wrote: »

TaliosFalcon and I actually saw someone runnign XP x64 in real life last weekend. It was a horrible clusterfuck trying to get supreme commander patched so we could all play. After an hour I walked away shaking my head, then laughed for 2 minutes, cried for 3 minutes and then went about my business..

Uh that's just how Supreme Commander is. Also, Supreme Commander is part of the "games for Windows" thing, which means that it works in 64 bit unpatched.

Supreme Commander's patching system is one of the many reasons I just play Spring.

Games for windows is a branding for XP 32 bit and all flavors of Vista. Shoudl "games for windows" mean it should work in windows 98? Server 2003, 3.1?

Zell

wunderbar wrote: »

Zell wrote: »

wunderbar wrote: »

TaliosFalcon and I actually saw someone runnign XP x64 in real life last weekend. It was a horrible clusterfuck trying to get supreme commander patched so we could all play. After an hour I walked away shaking my head, then laughed for 2 minutes, cried for 3 minutes and then went about my business..

Uh that's just how Supreme Commander is. Also, Supreme Commander is part of the "games for Windows" thing, which means that it works in 64 bit unpatched.

Supreme Commander's patching system is one of the many reasons I just play Spring.

Games for windows is a branding for XP 32 bit and all flavors of Vista. Shoudl "games for windows" mean it should work in windows 98? Server 2003, 3.1?

Games for Windows Technical Requirements wrote:

2.2 Support Windows Vista x64 Versions
Requirement

To maintain compatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows, games should meet the following requirements.
Titles and title installers must not contain any 16-bit code or rely on any 16-bit component.
If the game is dependent on kernel-mode drivers for operation, x64 versions of these drivers must be available. The game setup must detect and install the proper drivers and components for the 64-bit versions of Windows.
Rationale

Many Windows Vista users will run 64-bit versions of the operating system over the life of the product, so it is crucial for applications to be compatible with this operating system.
Additional Information

Windows on Windows 64 (WOW64) allows 32-bit code to run on 64-bit versions of Windows, so it is not necessary that the application be native 64-bit code on x64 versions of Windows. Sixteen-bit code does not run on 64-bit versions of Windows.

Maintaining compatibility with Windows XP Professional x64 Edition is not required, but it is strongly encouraged.

For details, see 64-bit Programming for Game Developers.

Unless they were actually trying to break it, then I would say the Games for Windows thing is a pretty good indicator of it working with any 64 bit Windows. Note that Windows XP x64 is actually mentioned, Windows 98 is not.

Anyway, as I said the horrible patching process is just how Supreme Commander is. I tried going through it on both Vista and 32 bit XP. It was a pretty painful experience both times.

taliosfalcon

Actually, the reason supcom wouldn't work is because we couldn't get any .net frameworks to install on 64 bit XP, which the supcom patches required, windows update couldn't even successfully install .net, it was a disaster of epic proportions, and pretty much all patches require the .net framework now for whatever reason

TheMarsVoltaire

I run 64 bit XP. Vista 64 did not exist when I built the computer. It runs just fine and the only driver problem I had was trying use an old web cam with obscure proprietary drivers. I have .NET framework installed, though I remember I had to search around for it a bit.

Monger

I'm also running XP x64 and I didn't have much of an issue getting .net installed. Just search for the 64 bit manual download. If it's that that wouldn't install, then there's a problem elsewhere.

That said, there's no reason for anyone to ever install 64 bit XP again. While the only game issue I know of offhand is retail VtM:B (the game itself is fine, but the installer crashes), drivers are still a giant nightmare.

Giant.

taliosfalcon

yeah, we did the 64 bit manual, the auto through windows update, old 64 bit manuals for .net verion 1 and 2, no go..But as monger said I think we can all agree that while xp 64 *might* not be as bad as it was for the first few years it was out, vista 64 is a much better bet,

electricitylikesme

I'm running XP 64 on my secondary computer with no problems at the moment. I'd run it on my main too but I'm not so enthusiastic about re-installing my whole system as I'd have to at the moment.