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Hey, turns out FF11 is the most hardcore MMO ever
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"Ever since the introduction of the ZNM system in the last update, players have been spending their time going up the ZNM tiers in order to gain access to one of the most difficult enemies in Final Fantasy XI: Pandemonium Warden. But we have only heard of a few accounts of the fight which talk about PW changing into different forms along with the Pandemonium Lamps.
The LS “Beyond the Limitation†on Seraph has given Pandemonium Warden a great attempt and even after EIGHTEEN hours, was unable to defeat this monster.
This begs the question “How Long is Too Long?â€
After the fight had raged on for 18 hours Sylphet from BtL had posted this in the BG Forums:
People were passing out and getting physically ill. We decided to end it before we risked turning into a horrible new story about how video games ruin people’s lives."
Wow. Eighteen hours?
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This was basically a bunch of players hitting their heads against a brick wall.
Grinding Rep and all that shit in WoW is bad enough, in FFXI you spend more time standing around waiting than anything else.
He told me he's played the game since it got out. He hasn't received any new equipment for more than a year and a half and still spends every waking, non-working hour playing this game.
My friends addiction to this game makes me hate it.
The beauty of it is, that there isnt a gimmick to the boss. Basically, his skill selection is the best skill from every single class, the ones on the absurdly long cooldowns. However, they arent on cooldowns. This includes the White Mage one, which heals him completely. With no cooldown. Yeaaahhhhh...
Party or die hardcore.
Even then, if your build sucked no one would party with you.
It's basically the perfect game from a hardcore raiders standpoint.
It got a bit friendlier after the second or third expansion, but not really.
You get used to it, either you learn a bit or you find some people to group with.
Also you will never ever have any fun ever with this game unless you do have a solid group of people with you...
FFXI is hardcore. The definition. The only MMO with a really good story, but with a EQ on crack general game design coupled with at one point the worst inflation I've ever seen in a virtual economy and...yeah.
You know, I would never touch a MMORPG but I can kind of respect an achievement like that. I remember hearing a story back in the days of Everquest of an army of players banding together to kill some monster that the developers had designed to be unkillable. It was a multi-day battle or something.
That sort of thing is something to brag about. What else are you working for in an MMORPG? There's no real story, certainly none with an ending. To reach level 60? To max out on Rogue armor? So what? You've accomplished exactly what 3 million other douche-bags have done before you. But to accomplish something that the very gods (developers) themselves have ordained impossible?
That's true honor.
The auto translator was one of the best parts of XI.
< Hand > < Job > < Do you need it? >
It's fun but it's also fucking annoying. If I have to group with people, that's fine. I can deal with that going in. Like CoX. But when 9/10 you're the only English speaker in the group it kind of sucks. Sometimes there would be two or three others but in the 4 months total paid subscription time for FFXI (broken up, I had to learn multiple times the game was not for me) I NEVER joined a group where everyone was an English speaker. Not once.
If you're gonna play FFXI you need to accept the fact that you'll be in the minority.
How is that possibly fun? I totally understood why they gave up. Does Square Enix just like messing with people?
I just got into WoW last month, and I was spent after a 3 hour dungeon. I couldn't imagine ever doing this.
I don't think it's supposed to take 18+ hours. They just haven't figured out the encounter yet.
They're quite tenacious, that's not SE's fault.
Once I figured that out about MMOs I just lost interest in them. It's just a timesink.
Oh, well then that's understandable. I guess it's like trying to destroy a tank with a wooden club.
Yeah, never any bad Japanese players.
Sorry, but I met as many racist asshat Japanese players as I did English ones. People are people, no matter what language they speak.
And oh when Japanese and English HNM LSs collided...
Ehhh, as long as the people have fun I don't see the problem.
If you think about it, the mechanics of the game mean you can only stand a chance at victory by having your character geared out with the best stuff in the game.
They could have the really tough bosses drop even better gear, but what's the point? You're going to go back and kill stuff that you could already kill with what you had before, only now it's easier.
They'd have to put in a new, even stronger boss or bosses to give you something worthwhile to use your new equipment on, and then you're right back where you started wondering why that guy didn't drop anything worthwhile after you'd been pounding his ass for 18 hours straight.
Look at me, I'll say things I don't know anything about.
I'm surprised they still haven't introduced instanced HNM stuff.