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Smoking while pregnant...
DarkCrawler
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Should it be illegal? This discussion rose up with some of my friends when we saw a pregnant woman smoking...The child has no choice on it, and I think the intake might be bigger then simply standing on a same room when the oxygen comes directly from the mother. You could extend the same thing on alcohol as well, if you want. Or some other harmful substances if you want. Marijuana, etc. Just by googling, you can find that there are health effects on the child.
http://www.drspock.com/article/0,1510,4547,00.html
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/pregnantsmoking.htm
http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/pp/womens/obsmoking/SmokingWhilePregnant.html
What do people think? On the other hand, it's a choice between the woman's freedom...on the other hand, the child's safety.
http://www.drspock.com/article/0,1510,4547,00.html
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/pregnantsmoking.htm
http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/pp/womens/obsmoking/SmokingWhilePregnant.html
What do people think? On the other hand, it's a choice between the woman's freedom...on the other hand, the child's safety.
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Yeah no.
There should be programs to help pregnant women break their addictions, however, assuming there aren't already.
Women and men who complete them along with other parenting courses should also receive a tax credit.
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my guess would be that if a cop saw a pregnant woman smoking they would fine/arrest her.
Not exactly. An abortion ends the pregnancy while smoking while pregnant causes health problems in the child that persist after birth.
Can we stop this before we begin...
You can tell, with a pretty good certainty, if a woman is pregnant, they look decently different enough from an overweight person you can probably tell. If you have doubts the officer can innocently ask the woman when the baby is due :P
What about women who are pregnant and aren't showing yet? What about women who are pregnant but don't know it yet?
So again, are cops going to be allowed to arrest people they think are pregnant?
Lets be clear, I'm not in favour of this I simply answered how they could enforce it.
Forcing a woman to show up in court, most likely repeatedly because of her appearance is not a non stupid way.
Yeah that wouldn't be so hot, considering every woman on the street smoking a cigarette could be ticketed.
How smoking harms the unborn baby
Babies born to mothers who smoke:
are more likely to be born prematurely and with a low birth weight (below 2.5kg or 5lb 8oz).
have a birth weight on average 200g (7oz) less than those born to non-smokers. This effect increases proportionally - the more the mother smokes, the less the child weighs.
have organs that are smaller on average than babies born to non-smokers.
have poorer lung function.
are twice as likely to die from cot death. There seems to be a direct link between cot death and parents smoking.
are ill more frequently. Babies born to women who smoked 15 cigarettes or more a day during pregnancy are taken into hospital twice as often during the first eight months of life.
get painful diseases such as inflammation of the middle ear and asthmatic bronchitis more frequently in early childhood.
are more likely to become smokers themselves in later years.
In addition, pregnant women who smoke increase their risk of early miscarriage.
In later pregnancy, smoking mothers are at increased risk of the baby's placenta coming away from the womb before the baby is born (placental abruption). This may cause the baby to be born prematurely, starve of oxygen, or even to die in the womb (stillborn).
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I can personally attest to the bolded part. My mom smoked a pack a day while pregnant. My brother has athsma (sp). I got bronchitis 2-3 times a year for my first ten years and one ear infection a year at least as a kid.
All that said and done I rarely get sick now. Unless I get a bout of some Superflu I think I'm gonna be ok.
You will find people saying creating and trying to enforce said law is ridiculous.
Can you explain how a criminal law that applies to women and not men is Constitutional?
Smoking is not analogous to driving. You don't get a smoking license from the State. There aren't smoking rules of the road.
If you want to prevent women from smoking while pregnant, making cigarettes or tobacco an illegal drug is the only way to do it.
More realistically, I'm comfortable with kids being able to sue anyone who smoked regularly around their mother which may be believed to cause symptoms.
More likely would be a matter for child welfare or whatever the equivalent agency is in the jurisdiction. There's a lot of things that are illegal that don't involve the police.
/sarcasm
I support both legal abortions and legal smoking while pregnant. If we're going to say that a pregnant woman has fewer rights than other Americans it should be written down, and that would be absurd.
I'm sure the stress a pregnant woman would go through getting arrested and thrown in jail is great for the baby too.
I'm perfectly fine with this, and Incenjucar what if it was your mother smoking instead of people smoking around her?
People like you are a pet peeve of mine.
Who do you think you are? What good can you possibly accomplish by outing somebody? I don't think I've ever met a person that has responded well to unsolicited criticism from strangers, especially strangers who feel the need to scream to the world their moral high road. Have you ever thought of the kinds of lessons you'll be teaching your kids? Construction through destruction is only meant for the military and demolition. In any case, the decision to smoke while pregnant is, admittedly, a highly reprehensible one but it's also no ones place to berate them for making it. Let the mother explain to her kid why he can't play any of the sports the other kids do because he has asthma.
Making tobacco illegal would have tremendous social, legal, and economic repercussions. Be serious.
I am serious and would vote for making tobacco illegal. Just like I voted to make it illegal to smoke in public buildings or with in 25 feet of an entrance or exit to a public building.
Yeah, fuck those husbands who "let" their wives act like individuals. Fucking morons! Men are the ones with joysticks, they should control the whole party right?
Yes. I'd vote against a law making it illegal for pregnant women to smoke.
You know what happened that time we made alcohol illegal, right?
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I think that weed is going to be the next moonshine. I don't know how I feel about this.
Well there's a midpoint. I don't agree with an outright ban on smoking but I do wish it would be illegal on bus stops. I want to punch those people in the head. Actually strike that. Either one or the other: Make it illegal to smoke on bus stops OR make it legal to punch bus stop smokers in the head. I'm good with either.
Not making a law because people are going to break it isn't a good reason not to make a law. And yes I know my US history.
It's more that people as a whole will hurt themselves more while breaking the law then they would if there was no law in the first place, even if you factor in that some people would obey it.
Tobacco and Alcohol are too strongly ingrained in the American culture for any law that makes them outright illegal to work, based on the above principle.