As was foretold, we've added advertisements to the forums! If you have questions, or if you encounter any bugs, please visit this thread: https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/240191/forum-advertisement-faq-and-reports-thread/
We're funding a new Acquisitions Incorporated series on Kickstarter right now! Check it out at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pennyarcade/acquisitions-incorporated-the-series-2

Same Bat-Time, Same Bat-Channel : The Batman Thread

1171820222362

Posts

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    SWEET MAMMA JAMMA A NEW AZRAEL MINI?

    Bloods End on
  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    No Bloods End, tell us how you really feel.

    Just_Bri_Thanks on
    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Quite you, you're just a Morrison fanboy who thinks he's better than everyone else.
    Your FC review was perfect.

    "Quite" me indeed, cur

    <3

    Zeromus on
    pygsig.png
  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Keith wrote: »
    You shouldn't read Death of the New Gods before FC because Final Crisis ignores it and it just makes things confusing

    This is what gets me. All the New Gods died, yet somehow all the evil ones came back to life on Earth? And they're sort of human? So where are all the good Gods at?

    Scooter on
  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Dr. Jeebus wrote: »

    Oh and you're wrong about the tie-ins too. Nightwing was awesome.

    I don't normally read Nightwing, so the fact that a supposed RIP tie-in was just Nightwing vs. Two-Face didn't really excite me at all.

    Your loss. Nightwing's been one of the best books DC's been putting out, since Tomasi started writing it anyway.

    Scooter: There was a war in heaven, Darkseid won.

    Unco-ordinated on
    Steam ID - LiquidSolid170 | PSN ID - LiquidSolid
  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    Scooter wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    You shouldn't read Death of the New Gods before FC because Final Crisis ignores it and it just makes things confusing

    This is what gets me. All the New Gods died, yet somehow all the evil ones came back to life on Earth? And they're sort of human? So where are all the good Gods at?

    yeah apparently morrison explicitly asked that dc abstain from using the new gods for a year or so before final crisis, which dc apparently took to mean "make a semi-mediocre series starring all the new gods which won't match up with the story of our big event book"

    Servo on
    newsigs.jpg
  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I don't understand why Battle of the Cowl and all these other post-RIP tie-ins are being written by guest writers. It just seems to me as though this is Morrison's story to tell. He's the one that brought Batman to the place he's at now. He's the one writing Final Crisis, which we've been hinted will have some direct bearing on the post-RIP events.

    So why isn't Morrison finishing the job? He's brought Bruce right up to the very threshold of retirement, and he's giving it away to someone else. I don't understand this at all.

    I just cannot comprehend why he would give away the most significant Batman story in the past decade (or more).

    Because of the way he ended RIP, with its helicopter crash cliffhanger, we don't know anything at this point. The fate of Batman is still yet to be determined. And some other guest writer is doing the honors of making it happen? I just don't get it.

    Lucascraft on
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I was under the impression that Battle for the Cowl was just a cash-in and could be skipped altogether, just like Gotham Underground.

    Robos A Go Go on
  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    Underground was only a few issues, but I think it has some reliant developments in it for its time.

    In fact...
    Spoiler is still using whatever invisibility device she got from the Penguin during Underground.

    Just_Bri_Thanks on
    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Underground was only a few issues, but I think it has some reliant developments in it for its time.

    In fact...
    Spoiler is still using whatever invisibility device she got from the Penguin during Underground.

    Gotham Underground was nine damn issues, and its most significant contribution was providing cannon fodder for Rogue's Revenge.

    Robos A Go Go on
  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    But Underground was a mini-series, right? I'm pretty sure Battle for the Cowl is taking place under the main Batman label. Maybe Detective also.

    Lucascraft on
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    But Underground was a mini-series, right? I'm pretty sure Battle for the Cowl is taking place under the main Batman label. Maybe Detective also.

    It is?

    If so, then I agree with what you said.

    Robos A Go Go on
  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    Hey, witless minions are important!

    Just_Bri_Thanks on
    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Here we are. I dug this up on Newsarama:
    14. And then Neil and Andy’s story, “Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?” – when we fished talked about it right after the panel at San Diego, I asked if that, by naming it after Alan Moore’s Superman story, if you were giving readers a hint at what the story will cover. Going back to what you said, the similarity here is that this is the end of a period in the life of “Batman?”

    DD: Yes. It closes the chapter on this part of the life of Batman, that is, through Bruce Wayne’s eyes.

    And to continue through the plan, Batman and Detective will go on hiatus for three months beginning in March, and in March, April and May, we have Battle for the Cowl, which is a three-parter, and we also have a second three-parter, Oracle, following the adventures of Barbara Gordon which follows events of Birds of Prey and picks up some storylines from Final Crisis, and we also have a three part Azrael miniseries that will roll out during that period of time as well, which will be integral to the events taking place in the Batman books.

    Source: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/120810-DiDio-20.html


    So it sounds like it *is* a mini-series, but it is taking the place of regular issues of Batman.

    Lucascraft on
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ah, alright.

    Yeah, I doubt any of that will be good.

    Robos A Go Go on
  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2008
    Underground was only a few issues, but I think it has some reliant developments in it for its time.

    In fact...
    Spoiler is still using whatever invisibility device she got from the Penguin during Underground.

    She only used it in that and then in Frank Tieri's issues of Batman & The Outsiders. So she only uses it when Frank Tieri thinks it appropriate.

    And her appearances in both of them still haven't been explained

    Garlic Bread on
  • Futt BuckerFutt Bucker CTRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Cover of Battle For The Cowl #1
    batman-battle-for-the-cowl-20081214.jpg

    Notice anyone missing?

    Here are some more BftC previews: http://comics.ign.com/articles/938/938297p1.html

    Futt Bucker on
    My color is black to the blind
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Tim and Cass?

    Bloods End on
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    If the Anti-Life Equation can save people's lives, I'm not entirely certain that Oracle is going to make it through her mini without her legs getting healed.

    Couple that with the fact that Batgirl is nowhere to be seen in the Battle for the Cowl minis, and I'm wondering if the old Batgirl is going to get phased out.

    Robos A Go Go on
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    If the Anti-Life Equation can save people's lives, I'm not entirely certain that Oracle is going to make it through her mini without her legs getting healed.

    Couple that with the fact that Batgirl is nowhere to be seen in the Battle for the Cowl minis, and I'm wondering if the old Batgirl is going to get phased out.

    They mention her in the solicit.

    Bloods End on
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Oh, maybe she'll stick around, then

    Robos A Go Go on
  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Cover of Battle For The Cowl #1
    batman-battle-for-the-cowl-20081214.jpg

    Notice anyone missing?

    Here are some more BftC previews: http://comics.ign.com/articles/938/938297p1.html

    Kevin VanHook's writing Oracle? Isn't he the guy that wrote Superman/Batman vs Vampires/Werewolves? o_O And wasn't Royal McGraw the guy that did a couple of terrible Detective Comics fill-ins?

    The only one in that group that I've got any confidence in is Fabian Nicieza and I really don't think he's going to be able to save this alone... Sure, I hope that Tony Daniel turns out to be an amazing writer but why throw him onto a pretty big project straight away?

    Unco-ordinated on
    Steam ID - LiquidSolid170 | PSN ID - LiquidSolid
  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Bloods End wrote: »
    Tim and Cass?
    Maybe Tim's the new Wildcat.

    Wildcat on
  • ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Cover of Battle For The Cowl #1
    batman-battle-for-the-cowl-20081214.jpg

    Notice anyone missing?

    Here are some more BftC previews: http://comics.ign.com/articles/938/938297p1.html

    Kevin VanHook's writing Oracle? Isn't he the guy that wrote Superman/Batman vs Vampires/Werewolves? o_O And wasn't Royal McGraw the guy that did a couple of terrible Detective Comics fill-ins?

    The only one in that group that I've got any confidence in is Fabian Nicieza and I really don't think he's going to be able to save this alone... Sure, I hope that Tony Daniel turns out to be an amazing writer but why throw him onto a pretty big project straight away?

    Because truthfully, Battle for the Cowl isn't a big event. We probably should have known who the next Batman was going to be in R.I.P. or at least in something Morrison's going to be writing, but DC decided they wanted more money, so we're getting what will probably be a throwaway event to drag the whole process out longer and get more people to buy comic books.

    Zeromus on
    pygsig.png
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    We all know it's Tim anyway.

    I think Morrison told them who was going to be the new Batman and DC decided to make an event on how they got the job.

    Bloods End on
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You mean Dick, right?

    That page with him holding the cowl was a pretty clear indication.

    Robos A Go Go on
  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Okay I have to say I love this costume
    batman-battle-for-the-cowl-20081214115445561.jpg

    Blankspace on
    SIG.gif
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I like it too. Is it from an older version of Azrael, or is that the character's new outfit?

    Robos A Go Go on
  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    It's the new one.

    Blankspace on
    SIG.gif
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You mean Dick, right?

    That page with him holding the cowl was a pretty clear indication.

    But Tim has been in Morrison's run from the beginning, acting all...Batman like.

    Bloods End on
  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I preferred his old white costume.

    I think it's because those combat boots are clashing with the more classical, medieval-themed armor present on his torso, and when I look at his leggings I keep seeing them as sweatpants he picked up at Costco.

    Munch on
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Apparently that isn't Jean Paul Valley

    Fencingsax on
  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2008
    Cover of Battle For The Cowl #1
    batman-battle-for-the-cowl-20081214.jpg

    Notice anyone missing?

    Here are some more BftC previews: http://comics.ign.com/articles/938/938297p1.html

    ugh huntress's slut costume

    Garlic Bread on
  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Huntress' costume is the only reason Ted Grant is there.

    Robos A Go Go on
  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    And to take care of Selina.

    Bloods End on
  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    so is Azreal gonna be that guy from Manhunter or what?

    also what happened to the rest of Manhunter? I know it was gonna be canceleled but didn't it have like 2 more issues?

    Sars_Boy on
  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Well Mark Shaw, the former Manhunter being groomed for the role of Azrael, was never a cop as the Azrael solicitation states. So he's probably out. I'm not really sure who they'd stick in the suit at this point.

    And I'm pretty sure Manhunter's going to finish out its arc focusing on abortion clinic murders and then end. So there's a handful of issues left.

    Munch on
  • SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Cover of Battle For The Cowl #1
    batman-battle-for-the-cowl-20081214.jpg

    Notice anyone missing?

    Here are some more BftC previews: http://comics.ign.com/articles/938/938297p1.html

    Someone please explain to me why on earth
    Wildcat
    is there

    SalmonOfDoubt on
    heavensidesig80.jpg
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    killing children would be hilarious
    Olivaw wrote: »
    HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE PENNY ARCADE FORUMS

    PLEASE ENJOY YOUR STAY

    AND THIS PENIS
    Man, I don't want to read about this lady's broken vagina.
    NotACrook wrote: »
    I am sitting here trying to come up with a tiered system for rating child molesters.
    cock vore is fuckin hilarious
  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Because every asshole that wrote a "Wildcat has to stop an underground fight club!" story in JSA: Classified inevitably had him trot over to Gotham for a while. And because Frank Tieri stuck him in Gotham Underground. For some reason.

    Munch on
  • FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Prediction: Catwoman is going to fight Batwoman at some point during this event.

    Faynor on
    do you wanna see me eat a hotdog
This discussion has been closed.