So I was playing with a friend of mine and we decided to go Random.
I got Setsuka and he got Rock. I was incredibly happy, since Rock sucks and Setsuka is my favourite character! It was not before long that happiness turned into sorrow as the Manliness of Rock quickly devoured me.
He's not an easy char to play, but he can give incredibly satisfying victories.
You'll also have the advantage that most people aren't used to fighting Rocks. I agree that he should have a bit more range.
The big thing that bothers me about his play style is that he feels like he should have more range (his weapon looks big enough) but then he seems to pull all of his attacks short. Like, instead of swinging out, he'll swing down to the ground. I always feel like he's thinking, "Whoops, that was close! Almost hit that guy!"
I love my Mina, but she's really not all that great. Some of her moves are a little bugged, and she's kind of trash outside of tip range. Strangely, she doesn't fight well against other ranged characters, either.
I love my Mina, but she's really not all that great. Some of her moves are a little bugged, and she's kind of trash outside of tip range. Strangely, she doesn't fight well against other ranged characters, either.
Ditto, my two fav characters are Setsuka and Mina. But I always feel underpowered when fighting with Mina.
I do love the jumping triple attack with Mina, rare are the times I use it, effectively, in combat, but... It always leaves me smiling.
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Oh god, Page raped me with Rock. Some of those continous grabs were downright evil.
I'm sad that Rock sucks because my brothers can no longer have their epic Rock vs. Astratoth fights that they had it in 3(I know he sucked in 3 too but it was basically just them knocking each other around for fun).
Either the pool is getting deeper, or I'm actually getting worse at this game. I did kind of lean away from the gimmicky Raph that I was playing to something a little more substantial, but I'm thinking maybe I'm not actually good enough to pull it off. If only I could break my FC3BB habit. That thing wrecks chumps, but makes my fights against good people way too predictable.
Either the pool is getting deeper, or I'm actually getting worse at this game. I did kind of lean away from the gimmicky Raph that I was playing to something a little more substantial, but I'm thinking maybe I'm not actually good enough to pull it off. If only I could break my FC3BB habit. That thing wrecks chumps, but makes my fights against good people way too predictable.
It's all about using every stance! People online seem to go into conniptions if your guy is standing differently than normal (which is why Voldo rules).
Either the pool is getting deeper, or I'm actually getting worse at this game. I did kind of lean away from the gimmicky Raph that I was playing to something a little more substantial, but I'm thinking maybe I'm not actually good enough to pull it off. If only I could break my FC3BB habit. That thing wrecks chumps, but makes my fights against good people way too predictable.
It's all about using every stance! People online seem to go into conniptions if your guy is standing differently than normal (which is why Voldo rules).
Once, using Voldo, I made my friend laugh so much that he couldn't play.
Either the pool is getting deeper, or I'm actually getting worse at this game. I did kind of lean away from the gimmicky Raph that I was playing to something a little more substantial, but I'm thinking maybe I'm not actually good enough to pull it off. If only I could break my FC3BB habit. That thing wrecks chumps, but makes my fights against good people way too predictable.
It's all about using every stance! People online seem to go into conniptions if your guy is standing differently than normal (which is why Voldo rules).
The only stance Raph has should (in my scrubby opinion) be basically imperceptible since you should be leaving it so quickly. Prep->KJFK has been known to beguile though. If I could master that prep->6A3BBBJFB combo, I think it would up my ratio a bit. I also need to develop some sort of wakeup game.
So I've been doing decently with Mitsurugi. Mainly I do the 1A where he sweeps with his sword and takes the guy. It converts into a guardbreak if you hit B during it. Most other times I just keep hitting varieties of B because everyone is trying to do some badass move and I just interrupt it.
Mine doesn't have a functioning B button anymore. I can't charge mah spear with Hilde anymore.
*CRY*
What do you do to it? I'm one of the most abusive stick users I know and I still have perfectly working Horis. You should check whoever you bought it from, for sure.
Ah, that's happened to me. Second time I tried to use the stick it wouldn't power on and I got a little scared. I didn't know 360 controllers did that.
I could have sworn there was a meta-friend in the OP before, so that I could play with you PA folks on XBL w/out filling up my friends list. Or did I make this up?
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I could have sworn there was a meta-friend in the OP before, so that I could play with you PA folks on XBL w/out filling up my friends list. Or did I make this up?
There isn't, but you're welcome to make one. I'd add it.
Doesn't that cost... money? Or does a silver account somehow suffice for this?
EDIT: of course it doesn't cost money, you fool! A Silver account will suffice just fine! Anyone who wants to play SC4 with some PA folks just send friend requests to Arcadian Souls. I'll try to log him in once a day to manage incoming friend requests.
To the battlefield!
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I've fought one person who was competent with Hilde. Four RO's in four rounds. Three were hers and from the middle of the ring. I hope they patch her out of the game.
Before I traded it in, I would use Taki or Sophitia in my online battles, with an occasional Yun Seong. Taki was amazing for playing the Giant Sworded spammers (Siegfried, Nightmare, Astaroth, etc).
Doesn't that cost... money? Or does a silver account somehow suffice for this?
EDIT: of course it doesn't cost money, you fool! A Silver account will suffice just fine! Anyone who wants to play SC4 with some PA folks just send friend requests to Arcadian Souls. I'll try to log him in once a day to manage incoming friend requests.
To the battlefield!
Alright, added. I'll expect to be playing against other people now and handing out beatings at least as much as I receive them.
So I've been doing decently with Mitsurugi. Mainly I do the 1A where he sweeps with his sword and takes the guy. It converts into a guardbreak if you hit B during it. Most other times I just keep hitting varieties of B because everyone is trying to do some badass move and I just interrupt it.
They get upset because I am so mundane.
1A is a very sweet move, but easy to predict if you're used to fighting Mitsurugi. Every time Mitsu spins around downward you know that 90% of the time that sweeping move is coming, which is kinda slow and easily jumped/B'ed. I suggest you try mixing it up a bit, perhaps using 2K,B, which is faster and often catches people off guard.
I don't have any other real tips, my experience with Mitsurugi online was fairly short(2 days I think)... But I know that he is a terrifying character when fighting people who properly use stances.
I also spam B, but only when fighting Yoda. I find that I can counter nearly all of his moves with Setsuka's B spam... Either that or I just keep fighting inexperienced Yodas.
So I've been doing decently with Mitsurugi. Mainly I do the 1A where he sweeps with his sword and takes the guy. It converts into a guardbreak if you hit B during it. Most other times I just keep hitting varieties of B because everyone is trying to do some badass move and I just interrupt it.
They get upset because I am so mundane.
Like Kylogue said, add some 2K,B in there, and the occasional 4K,B wouldn't hurt either. For his wakeup game, throwing out a 3B or 2K,B is a great mixup given their speed. You can also throw from his Mist stance, which takes most people (including me) by surprise.
I don't know that I'd use a steak knife; an exacto knife worked well for me. It's improved my execution substantially. I can pretty much always be there to punish you with a 235B if you fuck up now.
I've fought one person who was competent with Hilde. Four RO's in four rounds. Three were hers and from the middle of the ring. I hope they patch her out of the game.
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Can we kick this guy out of the forums? Please. Please!?
HILDE IS A GODDESS AND YOU SHALL RESPECT HER LIKE ONE.
So I've been doing decently with Mitsurugi. Mainly I do the 1A where he sweeps with his sword and takes the guy. It converts into a guardbreak if you hit B during it. Most other times I just keep hitting varieties of B because everyone is trying to do some badass move and I just interrupt it.
They get upset because I am so mundane.
Like Kylogue said, add some 2K,B in there, and the occasional 4K,B wouldn't hurt either. For his wakeup game, throwing out a 3B or 2K,B is a great mixup given their speed. You can also throw from his Mist stance, which takes most people (including me) by surprise.
Also has some very cool attack throws in Mist as well. B, 4B is one. another, 4B6 (this one is especially useful, can ring someone out from well inside the stage). They seem to come out faster than the equivalent moves do from normal stance.
Another move that is useful and is almost never seen is 8A+B or 9A+B.. can punish a lot of Kilik's big long range moves with that.
Cool move I just found for Zasalamel: B+K. Does no damage, but knocks the guy down. Ringing someone out with this move is the equivalent of killing someone with the prod in Worms.. and the best part is, it is incredibly fast. I was messing around with him last night and it was nice to see he doesn't have that many moves, and no special stances, so he's a little easier to learn. But, his style is way different than what I am used to. Not much for combos or big juggles.. all about mix ups.
I don't know that I'd use a steak knife; an exacto knife worked well for me. It's improved my execution substantially. I can pretty much always be there to punish you with a 235B if you fuck up now.
I disassembled my controller and used a dremel on it, but I don't feel like there's any improvement on mine. I can work around my dpad's deficiencies, but carving out the dpad well didn't do much for me. I did, however, get slightly better results with the foam tape mod.
Hopefully it works better for others than it did for me. Although if you want to open a wireless controller to go all dremel on it or add foam tape, you'll need a Torx 10 security bit screwdriver. You can get them on mod sites, but I'm not going to link them here.
Err, might I inquire, what's the problem with the 360 D-Pad? I've never really noticed anything wrong with it.
Me neither. I just use the joystick actually and can pull off all the moves just fine.
Well...I don't really have to much of a problem with it, but it is pretty stiff. I know on more than one occassion it has cause me to use a direction I didn't mean to just because of the way it's built. And when that mistake causes you to get hit by a combo for a good 1/3 of your health it can be annoying.
Man...how I miss the days of the Genesis D-pad...now that was a good one.
Err, might I inquire, what's the problem with the 360 D-Pad? I've never really noticed anything wrong with it.
Me neither. I just use the joystick actually and can pull off all the moves just fine.
Well...I don't really have to much of a problem with it, but it is pretty stiff. I know on more than one occassion it has cause me to use a direction I didn't mean to just because of the way it's built. And when that mistake causes you to get hit by a combo for a good 1/3 of your health it can be annoying.
Man...how I miss the days of the Genesis D-pad...now that was a good one.
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Rock was the only super heavy character in Soul Edge.
Note that this factoid in no way contradicts Taramoor.
I got Setsuka and he got Rock. I was incredibly happy, since Rock sucks and Setsuka is my favourite character! It was not before long that happiness turned into sorrow as the Manliness of Rock quickly devoured me.
He's not an easy char to play, but he can give incredibly satisfying victories.
You'll also have the advantage that most people aren't used to fighting Rocks. I agree that he should have a bit more range.
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Is Mina low tier this time around?
I thought she was doing just fine.
Rock is always in the Rock tier, that's just the way it is. I like to think the game designers are doing it on purpose by this point.
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Yeah, I think I counted six throws in a string at one point. Of course, Rock already looks like a rapist, so it was probably only natural. :winky:
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Ditto, my two fav characters are Setsuka and Mina. But I always feel underpowered when fighting with Mina.
I do love the jumping triple attack with Mina, rare are the times I use it, effectively, in combat, but... It always leaves me smiling.
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I'm sad that Rock sucks because my brothers can no longer have their epic Rock vs. Astratoth fights that they had it in 3(I know he sucked in 3 too but it was basically just them knocking each other around for fun).
Rock still has the best CF hands down though.
It's all about using every stance! People online seem to go into conniptions if your guy is standing differently than normal (which is why Voldo rules).
Once, using Voldo, I made my friend laugh so much that he couldn't play.
Mine doesn't have a functioning B button anymore. I can't charge mah spear with Hilde anymore.
*CRY*
The only stance Raph has should (in my scrubby opinion) be basically imperceptible since you should be leaving it so quickly. Prep->KJFK has been known to beguile though. If I could master that prep->6A3BBBJFB combo, I think it would up my ratio a bit. I also need to develop some sort of wakeup game.
They get upset because I am so mundane.
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What do you do to it? I'm one of the most abusive stick users I know and I still have perfectly working Horis. You should check whoever you bought it from, for sure.
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I bought it from Amazon.
EDIT : After extensive testing it turns out that the USB end on the Cable was loose. (the part that's suppose to break off, at that end)
That is all.
After further extensive extensive testing I've found out a few more things with Hilde that I was unaware of.
Now I'm like all Super Saiyan with her.
But redhead.
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360 Gamertag: Malapardis
Wii Friend Code: yeah, like I can remember that.
There isn't, but you're welcome to make one. I'd add it.
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Doesn't that cost... money? Or does a silver account somehow suffice for this?
EDIT: of course it doesn't cost money, you fool! A Silver account will suffice just fine! Anyone who wants to play SC4 with some PA folks just send friend requests to Arcadian Souls. I'll try to log him in once a day to manage incoming friend requests.
To the battlefield!
Eve Online: Aneis
360 Gamertag: Malapardis
Wii Friend Code: yeah, like I can remember that.
Alright, added. I'll expect to be playing against other people now and handing out beatings at least as much as I receive them.
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1A is a very sweet move, but easy to predict if you're used to fighting Mitsurugi. Every time Mitsu spins around downward you know that 90% of the time that sweeping move is coming, which is kinda slow and easily jumped/B'ed. I suggest you try mixing it up a bit, perhaps using 2K,B, which is faster and often catches people off guard.
I don't have any other real tips, my experience with Mitsurugi online was fairly short(2 days I think)... But I know that he is a terrifying character when fighting people who properly use stances.
I also spam B, but only when fighting Yoda. I find that I can counter nearly all of his moves with Setsuka's B spam... Either that or I just keep fighting inexperienced Yodas.
PSN: Kylogue
Like Kylogue said, add some 2K,B in there, and the occasional 4K,B wouldn't hurt either. For his wakeup game, throwing out a 3B or 2K,B is a great mixup given their speed. You can also throw from his Mist stance, which takes most people (including me) by surprise.
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I don't know that I'd use a steak knife; an exacto knife worked well for me. It's improved my execution substantially. I can pretty much always be there to punish you with a 235B if you fuck up now.
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Can we kick this guy out of the forums? Please. Please!?
HILDE IS A GODDESS AND YOU SHALL RESPECT HER LIKE ONE.
I should have a Mic by the end of today, so I'll be able to talk in future games.
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Also has some very cool attack throws in Mist as well. B, 4B is one. another, 4B6 (this one is especially useful, can ring someone out from well inside the stage). They seem to come out faster than the equivalent moves do from normal stance.
Another move that is useful and is almost never seen is 8A+B or 9A+B.. can punish a lot of Kilik's big long range moves with that.
Cool move I just found for Zasalamel: B+K. Does no damage, but knocks the guy down. Ringing someone out with this move is the equivalent of killing someone with the prod in Worms.. and the best part is, it is incredibly fast. I was messing around with him last night and it was nice to see he doesn't have that many moves, and no special stances, so he's a little easier to learn. But, his style is way different than what I am used to. Not much for combos or big juggles.. all about mix ups.
I disassembled my controller and used a dremel on it, but I don't feel like there's any improvement on mine. I can work around my dpad's deficiencies, but carving out the dpad well didn't do much for me. I did, however, get slightly better results with the foam tape mod.
Hopefully it works better for others than it did for me. Although if you want to open a wireless controller to go all dremel on it or add foam tape, you'll need a Torx 10 security bit screwdriver. You can get them on mod sites, but I'm not going to link them here.
Me neither. I just use the joystick actually and can pull off all the moves just fine.
Well...I don't really have to much of a problem with it, but it is pretty stiff. I know on more than one occassion it has cause me to use a direction I didn't mean to just because of the way it's built. And when that mistake causes you to get hit by a combo for a good 1/3 of your health it can be annoying.
Man...how I miss the days of the Genesis D-pad...now that was a good one.