I never had to chance to play the original games, so I don't have any nostalgia to color my impression of the new game, but landscape in the new game seemed very surreal during the demo today. There's something just chilling about coming across a playground amongst the ravaged landscape.
Fallout seemed surreal to me because there is a bit of fantasy within that world. The logic of the world does not quite mesh with ours. The post apocalyptic wasteland in Fallout was not quite literal. (e.g, Radiation makes things glow.)It's the blend of familiar and unfamiliar that define that world. Yes there would be landmarks and familiar cities, however presented within satirical backgrounds.
I have two words for you:
Crab people.
I saw one the other day. Nasty little creatures
i hear the brotherhood of steel is recruiting again.
I never had to chance to play the original games, so I don't have any nostalgia to color my impression of the new game, but landscape in the new game seemed very surreal during the demo today. There's something just chilling about coming across a playground amongst the ravaged landscape.
Fallout seemed surreal to me because there is a bit of fantasy within that world. The logic of the world does not quite mesh with ours. The post apocalyptic wasteland in Fallout was not quite literal. (e.g, Radiation makes things glow.)It's the blend of familiar and unfamiliar that define that world. Yes there would be landmarks and familiar cities, however presented within satirical backgrounds.
I have two words for you:
Crab people.
I saw one the other day. Nasty little creatures
i hear the brotherhood of steel is recruiting again.
More importantly Fallout isn't about realism. The wasteland and ruins have an almost surreal quality to them. I think this was a foundation key to the charm and uniqueness of Fallout 1.
Personally I'm much more of a fan regarding the realism, considering it is all taking place in real life D.C. Sure with an alternate 50's spinoff 200 years later timeline, but still.
Even the old ones wanted to do real things. By F2, you had San Francisco, Redding, Klamath etc. They wanted to go for the (as much as it was possible) association with real places.
Agreed, and DC has a hard limit for the height buildings can be within a large area of the city (if not the entire city), so there's no skyscrapers to have been left in ruins in the first place.
OT: I wish TV producers would realize this. I was watching Prison Break when they had one of their characters in "DC" surrounded by skyscrapers and tall buildings. X-Files was better than that, they actually used real place names at least. I think they even mentioned my home city (Fairfax!) once or twice.
But yeah, Fallout! Woo! I placed my preorder last week. I wish I could afford the CE, and I'm envious of everybody who a) got to go to PAX and b) got to play Fallout 3.
I never had to chance to play the original games, so I don't have any nostalgia to color my impression of the new game, but landscape in the new game seemed very surreal during the demo today. There's something just chilling about coming across a playground amongst the ravaged landscape.
Fallout seemed surreal to me because there is a bit of fantasy within that world. The logic of the world does not quite mesh with ours. The post apocalyptic wasteland in Fallout was not quite literal. (e.g, Radiation makes things glow.)It's the blend of familiar and unfamiliar that define that world. Yes there would be landmarks and familiar cities, however presented within satirical backgrounds.
I have two words for you:
Crab people.
I saw one the other day. Nasty little creatures
i hear the brotherhood of steel is recruiting again.
Goodbye!
Radiant AI has become sentient and is posting to the forums
A question for anyone who was able to play F3 at PAX:
Were any of the ruined structures or cities similar to the original Fallout in terms of Gothic, blended with Art Deco?
It may sound foolish considering hardware limitations, but I hope there are ruined cities with partial skyscrapers that have a similar and haunting style that the first Fallout hinted at with in-game cinematics.
Btw, the original Fallout artist copied his art almost verbatim to a comic he liked with Frank Miller's Hard Boiled. I secretly hope the artists for Fallout 3 have carried on this influence. I know they at least understand the "future retro vision from the 50's quality."
From the new videos Tenpenny Tower, while not gothic, seemed pretty haunting though not exactly ruined.
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"I'd happily trade your life for knowledge of my powers."
-Louis C.K.
Right click on the attack button until you see Reload. Then click on it. Same as in FO2.
Theres a reload button?
I've been going into my inventory to reload every time.
right click the weapon button, that big thing in the centre with the picture of whatever gun/weapon your using, keep right clicking and it will say "reload" costs 2 ap points, right clicking is also how you select the weapons other functions, such as burst, slash/thrust for melee, even thrown for spears.
I have to say, I've had a strong dislike for Todd Howard because of the fact he always comes out as someone who is extremely naive and never fully aware of the situation he's in...Actually that not true, I hate him, but only because he reminds me too much of Jamie Kennedy (god I hate Jamie Kennedy).
Any-who, I have to say I'm surprised how many mocking pot shots Todd toke to the old Fallout, it was like sucker punching a baby. o_O
I have to say, I've had a strong dislike for Todd Howard because of the fact he always comes out as someone who is extremely naive and never fully aware of the situation he's in...Actually that not true, I hate him, but only because he reminds me too much of Jamie Kennedy (god I hate Jamie Kennedy).
Any-who, I have to say I'm surprised how many mocking pot shots Todd toke to the old Fallout, it was like sucker punching a baby. o_O
I have to say, I've had a strong dislike for Todd Howard because of the fact he always comes out as someone who is extremely naive and never fully aware of the situation he's in...Actually that not true, I hate him, but only because he reminds me too much of Jamie Kennedy (god I hate Jamie Kennedy).
Any-who, I have to say I'm surprised how many mocking pot shots Todd toke to the old Fallout, it was like sucker punching a baby. o_O
What the fuck are you going on about?
At PAX he's making comments here and there...nevermind not that big of a deal.
So, from what I've gathered from your impressions...
1. Combat is pretty awesome.
2. Dialogue is plentiful and written in a fallout-esque style.
So,...All our fears didn't come true?
Good thing, too. I think I promised to eat a body part if they did.
Edit: Just saw a video posted up on NMA from some people who broke the rules and filmed gameplay. I noticed you get experience for examining stuff, which is cool, but I'm wondering from those who played: How far does that go? The guy in the video leveled up twice just walking down the street.
Edit2: Gah, and clicked forum discussion link. I thought the recent drop in F word density on the front page meant the site had become less stupid.
I have to say, I've had a strong dislike for Todd Howard because of the fact he always comes out as someone who is extremely naive and never fully aware of the situation he's in...Actually that not true, I hate him, but only because he reminds me too much of Jamie Kennedy (god I hate Jamie Kennedy).
Any-who, I have to say I'm surprised how many mocking pot shots Todd toke to the old Fallout, it was like sucker punching a baby. o_O
Honestly Todd Howard is the worst person ever at PR unless you're trying to bring in the 13 year old boy crowd, he alone has done more to alienate the fallout fanbase then anything else Bethesda have done.
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I have to say, I've had a strong dislike for Todd Howard because of the fact he always comes out as someone who is extremely naive and never fully aware of the situation he's in...Actually that not true, I hate him, but only because he reminds me too much of Jamie Kennedy (god I hate Jamie Kennedy).
Any-who, I have to say I'm surprised how many mocking pot shots Todd toke to the old Fallout, it was like sucker punching a baby. o_O
Honestly Todd Howard is the worst person ever at PR unless you're trying to bring in the 13 year old boy crowd, he alone has done more to alienate the fallout fanbase then anything else Bethesda have done.
Are you guys trying to sound like horrible, bitter nerds or does it just come natural.
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So, from what I've gathered from your impressions...
1. Combat is pretty awesome.
2. Dialogue is plentiful and written in a fallout-esque style.
So,...All our fears didn't come true?
From what I ascertained they mostly fixed what was wrong with Oblivion (not sure about the diversity of the voice actors or whether the local townsfolk will talk about how disgusting mole rats are). Conversations look interesting and combat is an absolute blast so I'm extremely hyped for this game.
Also, more impressions!
Random occurrences are in fact, random. When the guy ahead of me entered the supermarket parking lot, he found two civilians being attacked by a raider. So he dispatched the raider and the two civilians. When I entered the lot, I found a lone raider, no civilians. Also I passed by a bunch of rotting Brahmin and Brahmin skeletons, not sure if it was random but it was a nice touch.
I picked up an energy pistol but sadly, had no ammunition. Bloody mess wasn't available as a trait. Navigating the menus is much better than Oblivions use of massive icons. It's simply text with an adjoining picture, more specifically a picture of the vault boy doing various things that correspond to the picture. Even equipment does this. For example, say when you highligt a baseball cap to equip, the vault boy will appear wearing the baseball cap.
Honestly I really want to like this game, Todd Howard being the outward face Fallout 3 just makes that very hard since I really think he acts retarded and if you follow the old school Fallout fansites you will find that more attacks are made against Todd Howard then any other part of what Bethesda is doing with Fallout.
And yes I read NMA and post on DAC, big deal, the fact that parts of the Fallout fanbase have gone mad, rabid and hateful dosn't mean you can't critisize Bethesda for what they are doing.
Honestly Todd Howard is the worst person ever at PR unless you're trying to bring in the 13 year old boy crowd, he alone has done more to alienate the fallout fanbase then anything else Bethesda have done.
Umm....what exactly has he done? I mean, honestly from the videos I've seen of him demoing gameplay he hasn't come across to me as particularly annoying or insulting at all. Or do his quips about his demo character looking like his shop teacher, (or his love of marching band music) really insult the fallout community somehow? o_O
Todd is convenient scapegoat for nerds to externalize their insane stupid nerd-rage.
Pretty much. I'm an old school Fallout lover but even I can't be bothered to summon up the enormous amounts of pants shitting nerdrage that some people vent on various forums. Hell, I'll be buying the PC version on day 1, regardless of the shitloads of bugs that always accompany a Bethesda game at release.
So, to change the topic a little bit, have they mentioned specs for the PC version or whether it will support mods? Because my computer will probably run it at medium settings at best, but if there are going to be mods I'll deal with it.
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i hear the brotherhood of steel is recruiting again.
Goodbye!
There were rats at the entrance to Vault 13, in vault 15 and in the sewers leading to vault 12, I would hardly call that everywhere.
This morning there was a spider in my bathroom
SOMEBODY HELP SPIDERS ARE EVERYWHERE
OT: I wish TV producers would realize this. I was watching Prison Break when they had one of their characters in "DC" surrounded by skyscrapers and tall buildings. X-Files was better than that, they actually used real place names at least. I think they even mentioned my home city (Fairfax!) once or twice.
But yeah, Fallout! Woo! I placed my preorder last week. I wish I could afford the CE, and I'm envious of everybody who a) got to go to PAX and b) got to play Fallout 3.
Radiant AI has become sentient and is posting to the forums
From the new videos Tenpenny Tower, while not gothic, seemed pretty haunting though not exactly ruined.
-Louis C.K.
by clicking the reload button.
Actually.... they are. You just don't know where.
They watch you as you sleep, and do things.
I mean in FO1
Supermutant Behemoth wtf
by clicking the reload button.
I've been going into my inventory to reload every time.
It makes me want to become a mutant and be their king, just so I can ride on one's shoulder into battle.
right click the weapon button, that big thing in the centre with the picture of whatever gun/weapon your using, keep right clicking and it will say "reload" costs 2 ap points, right clicking is also how you select the weapons other functions, such as burst, slash/thrust for melee, even thrown for spears.
Any-who, I have to say I'm surprised how many mocking pot shots Todd toke to the old Fallout, it was like sucker punching a baby. o_O
Steam Name: Dr.Oblivious
If you can't live for the now, at least live for the future.
What the fuck are you going on about?
At PAX he's making comments here and there...nevermind not that big of a deal.
Steam Name: Dr.Oblivious
If you can't live for the now, at least live for the future.
Fix'd for horrifying truth.
Also, I got a vault boy puppet at PAX. Now he's just sitting there staring at me. [tiny]help me[/tiny]
1. Combat is pretty awesome.
2. Dialogue is plentiful and written in a fallout-esque style.
So,...All our fears didn't come true?
Good thing, too. I think I promised to eat a body part if they did.
Edit: Just saw a video posted up on NMA from some people who broke the rules and filmed gameplay. I noticed you get experience for examining stuff, which is cool, but I'm wondering from those who played: How far does that go? The guy in the video leveled up twice just walking down the street.
Edit2: Gah, and clicked forum discussion link. I thought the recent drop in F word density on the front page meant the site had become less stupid.
Honestly Todd Howard is the worst person ever at PR unless you're trying to bring in the 13 year old boy crowd, he alone has done more to alienate the fallout fanbase then anything else Bethesda have done.
Are you guys trying to sound like horrible, bitter nerds or does it just come natural.
From what I ascertained they mostly fixed what was wrong with Oblivion (not sure about the diversity of the voice actors or whether the local townsfolk will talk about how disgusting mole rats are). Conversations look interesting and combat is an absolute blast so I'm extremely hyped for this game.
Also, more impressions!
I picked up an energy pistol but sadly, had no ammunition. Bloody mess wasn't available as a trait. Navigating the menus is much better than Oblivions use of massive icons. It's simply text with an adjoining picture, more specifically a picture of the vault boy doing various things that correspond to the picture. Even equipment does this. For example, say when you highligt a baseball cap to equip, the vault boy will appear wearing the baseball cap.
More to come later as I recall my playthrough.
And yes I read NMA and post on DAC, big deal, the fact that parts of the Fallout fanbase have gone mad, rabid and hateful dosn't mean you can't critisize Bethesda for what they are doing.
Umm....what exactly has he done? I mean, honestly from the videos I've seen of him demoing gameplay he hasn't come across to me as particularly annoying or insulting at all. Or do his quips about his demo character looking like his shop teacher, (or his love of marching band music) really insult the fallout community somehow? o_O