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DiscoZombie
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so, I'll try to make this short... I'm a contractor at a company, and I was doing sort of entry level work that a lot of kids right out of college are doing, even though I have some decent Access and Excel skills and such. Then, the department's analyst left suddenly, and they pretty much offered me the role, because my skill set was just what the job needed, and they had to fill the spot fast because the guy was leaving and if he didn't train anyone before he left, they kind of would have been screwed. so he trained me on what he did and then he left. now I'm pretty much doing his job, and I picked everything up pretty quickly IMO, but... they haven't offered me a permanent spot there or more money yet.
Now, I'm incredibly passive and shy. I have trouble asking things of friends, let alone employers. I know I'm in a position of some bargaining power, since I'm the only person the guy who left trained, and I have the right qualifications for the job, etc. I also know that they're aware I want to be hired permanently, and also word has reached my contract agency because the agency told me they heard I was being brought on full time... but nothing more has happened so far.
It's only been about a week and a half at this point. I don't know if the director of the department is waiting for me to make the first move or what. He's generally a really nice guy and I like him just about the most out of anyone there. How do I march in there and ask to be brought on permanently without seeming like a pushy asshole? also, how do I know how much money to ask for without seeming like a greedy asshole? or how long do I wait for him to make the first move? I do not understand white collar etiquette and protocol and I don't want to be short shrifted
Now, I'm incredibly passive and shy. I have trouble asking things of friends, let alone employers. I know I'm in a position of some bargaining power, since I'm the only person the guy who left trained, and I have the right qualifications for the job, etc. I also know that they're aware I want to be hired permanently, and also word has reached my contract agency because the agency told me they heard I was being brought on full time... but nothing more has happened so far.
It's only been about a week and a half at this point. I don't know if the director of the department is waiting for me to make the first move or what. He's generally a really nice guy and I like him just about the most out of anyone there. How do I march in there and ask to be brought on permanently without seeming like a pushy asshole? also, how do I know how much money to ask for without seeming like a greedy asshole? or how long do I wait for him to make the first move? I do not understand white collar etiquette and protocol and I don't want to be short shrifted
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Do a little research to figure out what you should be making. Keep in mind if your young and don't have a lot of job experience you might be at the lower end of "average pay" for that job.
Send you boss an e-mail basically saying that you have concerns about the stability of your employment and would like to have a brief meeting with him to discuss your pay and position.
Be ready to go into that meeting and justify why you feel you should be making x amount (say slightly less then the average pay for the job your taking over assuming that would still be a huge raise for you) and justify why you would like a permanent stop
^Asks the question about permanency while demonstrating your dedication to the new role.
As far as the pay raise, that should be easy to ask about after you know whether or not you're keeping the new job. If you want to be humble about it, you can ask without demanding:
"Can you let me know if my pay grade/level/etc. is going to change?"
If you're self-employed and working as a contractor, I doubt they are going to renegotiate the terms of the agreement out of the goodness of their hearts. One of the major reasons companies and the government hire contractors is because they don't have to give them raises/pensions/medical coverage etc.
This is all I needed to read because the same thing happend to me. In my orginal job I would shuffle paperwork and make lists (extremely boring). My officemate at the time was pretty much the end all be all when it came to certain areas of my company's computers. A lot of crap happened that didn't involve me and had to switch to a new manager (long story).
Well this new manager was so busy with himself that he never tasked me with any kind of work whatsoever. Having always had an interest in computers my officemate decided to take me under his wing and train me in all things IT. One day my officemate is offered a shit-ton of money from another company and decides to take the position. With him gone the only other person qualified to do our type of work left at the company was me. I decided this was my chance to prove myself. I fixed problem after problem, dealt with tensions from other departments, plus whatever non-duties my manager was assigning me. I even got an N+ certification.
Well the managers all loved this, and said "Brando, Officemate's position is formally opening up real soon you should really apply; you would stand a good chance." The position opened, and I applied, then was interviewed, then nothing. After about 3 months my boss' boss called me into his office and said that he didn't feel that I was qualified enough for the position. Then I received a mixture of confusion and anger as to why I wasn't qualified for the job I have been doing alone for 6 months.
Then they hired the person they wanted, and I had to train her. :x. Thankfully she is a really nice person and there wasn't that much salt in the wound, but still it was a shitty thing for my company to do.
Moral of the story: Your company may have the same idea in mind for you, so watch out.
I would wait another half a week before asking about the status of your transition. Also, by asking about it's status, it opens the door for other questions, like will I be getting an offer letter or is there anything you need me to do during the process? It will give you more information and somewhere in there you should be able to find out what your pay will be or at least when they're going to tell you what is. You'll also know at this point whether there will be an opportunity to negotiate.
Look up the type of job your doing, pick the one that comes closest to your job duty if your unsure. There will be a range and a list of salaries for each job and other useful information. Yes you'll have to read through different job descriptions for a bit to find what you looking for, but spending a few minutes doing your research is a good trade off for possibly making possibly a few extra hundred to a couple of thousand dollars.