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MeizMeiz Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Social Entropy++
Check it out guys. The science folks have been creating The Large Hadron Collider.

Well, what does this mean? On September 10th 2008, a bunch of dorks get to see if all their theories pan out.

Excerpt:
Why should people care about this experiment and particle physics in general?

There are several ways to slice that question. The way it often comes is, Why should it be funded? Because on some level no one is going to be really offended if people spend their time thinking about this if it's not going to cost them anything. But if it's going to cost them a lot of money, then why should it be a priority for society?

The answer people normally give — and it's true — is particle physics is important to our understanding of the nature of the universe and the Big Bang, but there's another really good answer and no one ever gives it. The value of disciplines like particle physics and astrophysics is people.

Physicists are really in demand outside academia, and the reason they are is that the portable skills you get as a physicist are rare. You learn how to analyze problems from first principles, to translate that into mathematics, to solve the mathematics and then to translate it back into implications for the thing you are trying to solve. And that's really useful everywhere in the economy.

My students that go out into the workforce are bankers, insurance people, engineers and software people. These people are going into a very useful place in the economy, but they wouldn't have gone there directly. The reason they learn these skills is because particle physics is cool and you get to think about the universe as a whole, or you get to think about what matter is made of. And they are drawn by that in a way they wouldn't be drawn naturally into something like banking.

It's the old spin-off argument, but the way particle physicists would normally say it is in terms of materials and inventions made possible because of physics. But the real thing we make is people.


Article:
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/08/15/f-burgess-lhc.html

Yeah, kind of a big thing.

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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    I think they activated that Hadron thing a few weeks ago.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'ma go build a small hadron collider

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    ascotascot Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Special Educational Needs, Nerd

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    Threadbare SockThreadbare Sock regular
    edited August 2008
    they dont even know when the first collisions will happen

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    FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    OH YEAH

    WELL IF PHYSICS IS SO DAMN GREAT HOW COME I'M WORKING IN A SUPERMARKET?

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    Cold Salmon and HatredCold Salmon and Hatred __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    pdvd001nl4.jpg?

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    bongibongi regular
    edited August 2008
    THEY'RE TRYING TO BLOW UP THE WORLD

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    Riggs BlitzkriegRiggs Blitzkrieg Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Is that supposed to be knight rider?


    what was the supposed risk people were worried about? creating a tiny blackhole that won't go away?

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    guys check it out I just found a way to convert heat into kinetic energy

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    BoredGamerBoredGamer Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Did some nerd send them a crowbar?

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Geek wrote: »
    I think they activated that Hadron thing a few weeks ago.

    This is incorrect.


    They completed the construction and run-up, including the cooling of the components, making it colder than space.

    Now they are testing each segment and will circulate the first beam on September 10th.

    From there it will be a month or so as they increase the speed before they start bending the beams together to cause collisions.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    pdvd001nl4.jpg?

    ...well played

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    FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    where is the gravitons at?

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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    Man, if this thing does end the world, it's a damn awesome way to do it.


    It'd be all, hahahaha, in your face, christians! Where's your rapture now?

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    KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So when does it destroy the universe?

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Perfect place for reposting this in case anyone is wondering what type of ridiculous moron believes the black hole stuff:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0

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    BoredGamerBoredGamer Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
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    Cold Salmon and HatredCold Salmon and Hatred __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    Glad you recognize it TDOT

    god I love that episode, and the one that references back to it is amazing

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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Geek wrote: »
    Man, if this thing does end the world, it's a damn awesome way to do it.


    It'd be all, hahahaha, in your face, christians! Where's your rapture now?
    turns out the four main scientists on the collider are rabid horse enthusiasts

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    MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Geek wrote: »
    Man, if this thing does end the world, it's a damn awesome way to do it.


    It'd be all, hahahaha, in your face, christians! Where's your rapture now?

    We could've destroyed the world in the 40's, man

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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    Faricazy wrote: »
    The Geek wrote: »
    Man, if this thing does end the world, it's a damn awesome way to do it.


    It'd be all, hahahaha, in your face, christians! Where's your rapture now?
    turns out the four main scientists on the collider are rabid horse enthusiasts

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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    FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    NotACrook wrote: »
    Perfect place for reposting this in case anyone is wondering what type of ridiculous moron believes the black hole stuff:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0

    ahaha

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Welcome to the world of scientific consensus and the media.

    Two dudes in Hawaii believe something that they've already gotten wrong and the entire qualified scientific community says they are wrong about, but I get 20 damn google alerts in my inbox every day about another story covering it.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    NotACrook wrote: »
    Perfect place for reposting this in case anyone is wondering what type of ridiculous moron believes the black hole stuff:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0
    ahahahahahaha

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    FAQ wrote: »
    NotACrook wrote: »
    Perfect place for reposting this in case anyone is wondering what type of ridiculous moron believes the black hole stuff:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt1Yo610lG0

    ahaha

    he just keeps getting wackier and wackier as he goes along. It's a brilliant collapse into the utterly bizarre.


    There's a great video of him in Germany or somewhere, trying to convince people on the street that things like arches and rooflines represent a freemason alien conspiracy.

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I guess I should be fair, technically he doesn't believe the black hole stuff.

    Just the general doomsday nonsense.

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    FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    when he's talking about black holes is pretty great though

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    The Geek wrote: »
    Man, if this thing does end the world, it's a damn awesome way to do it.


    It'd be all, hahahaha, in your face, christians! Where's your rapture now?

    Yeah but I was kinda looking forward to living on the earth for seven years in an apocalyptic wasteland

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So... uh... so that guy is locked up, right? Like... for our safety?


    BLACK AS IN SATANIC

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    MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So... uh... so that guy is locked up, right? Like... for our safety?


    I say we give him LSD, chain him to a Tilt-O-Whirl and set the dial to 11.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    A BLACK HOLE

    "BLACK" AS IN SATANIC

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Aw, druhim beat me to my funny edit.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    see because black people are also Satan's people

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    which is why their flesh appears charred.

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Also why they have such long tails/horns

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    NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    On the other side of the things, we have Brian Cox.

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    Rock Star Keyboardist:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl-ai9HuR60

    Same name as this motherfucker:
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    Brilliant Physicist:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6uKZWnJLCM

    He's working on ATLAS, one of the detectors that is going to look for the Higgs Boson.

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    HOW DID THESE MAGIC NEPHILIM APE-BABBIE HUMAN MAN-CHILDREN GET HERE? THEY DIDN'T FALL FROM THE SKY, THAT WOULD BE SILLY.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I took the last higgs boson from the office supply cabinet sorry

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You shouldn't listen to scientists or anyone else who is educated by anything other than the holy Bible. In fact, just ignore smart people all together. You can trust me, I'm dumb as hell and never read a book that didn't have a crucifix on the cover.

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    This guy is honestly, truly insane.

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