my roommate bought the 360 build. Though it can be quite entertaining, the games short comings have left me pretty unimpressed. I'm just wondering if the wii build is any better on that front.
I'm playing this a lot slower than most I think. I still haven't finished it. But I've enjoyed it so far. Is it perfect, no, but damn it's fun.
I'm playing on Sith Master, and think Sith Warrior would be more fun, just because I do find myself dieing a lot.
I like that you don't lose force points when you die. Because I've been getting around 80% of the holocrons, and racking up tons of force points retrying certain tough parts, I'm nearly maxed out (i think like 4 more force talents and force powers). I unlocked all force combos before finishing
the rescue of Bail
I think the only bugs I've seen so far are
some of the teleporting junk droids appearing fulling transported for just a split second then disappearing and doing there teleport in animation.
And this morning the game froze up on me for the first time.
Yes the camera leave a lot to be desired. Sometime I really wish there was a first person view button. (Having most recently played Assassin's Creed I sometimes find myself shooting lightening when trying to get a better view of where I am).
I don't use the target lock as much as I should, well really at all. It seems to have some benefit. Also, I think I'll try turning off the Advanced force powers and see how that goes.
I also plan on reading all the data banks after my current mission to see if it fills in enough of the gaps in the story, if not I might check the book out from the library after I finish the game.
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edited September 2008
Holy shit guys.
I just broke this game.
I'm completely serious.
I was on stage three, running around playing with advanced force off. And I randomly discovered that pumping the grip trigger twice quickly, similar to a tap but more like a rev, would guarantee this instant max speed grip throw I was talking about earlier. Without any major thinking on my part.
And I've been practising turning and targetting creatures in order to jump and aerial strike them ever since I bought the move!
I'm literally not lying when I say I'm doing shit so crazy I don't think you'll believe it.
I fucking repulsed a felucian coming at me from behind, turned, instant gripped him back around the other way, turned and caught him mid air and instant sent him straight up. I spent the first few encounters of the level messing around working out what I could do with this flawless instant grip thing.
And then I had the most amazing fucking Star Wars battle of my life.
I have to spoil this.
It was where you meet the first rancor, and all the felucians attack you while you are dealing with it.
In between aerial striking and lightning this rancor, I was able to turn and instantly catch felucians in mid pounce coming at Starkillers face and throw them instantly. You know that leap they do at you from a distance? I was hearing growls in my blind spot, and I'd whip Starkiller in the direction of the sound, hit target, hold left or right, double tapp grip, and throw them so fast I could only catch glimpses of them leaping at Starkillers face as the camera span around before they dissappeared off camera again!
I killed the rancor by throwing every object I could target at it, living or dead, within a few seconds, then I did the qte and then after it was dead I spent the most awesome twenty seconds of my life spinning from side to side catching each leaping monster as it came at me and throwing them out of the arena! I didn't even get touched! They couldn't even get near me!
God my gf is taking her digital camera with her today or I'd fucking record a video because you have to see this shit. I just did it and I can't believe it I did it.
You can do it so fast you can throw them behind you, turn and catch them mid air, throw them again.
Soon as she comes home with the camera I'm uploading a vid this is fucking nuts. In between blocking, repulsing and mid air catching/throwing I didn't take any damage at all from anything but the rancor!
There was a point where I threw one guy into two of his friends, and started a chain reaction that sent them pinwheeling into an explodey bush, and then repulsed another one who had landed directly behind me, span and caught him before he landed and instantly threw him into a another guy and they both flew into another one of those exploding plants, and the framerate couldn't keep up with the physics going on!
I just made my own John Woo presents The Force Unleashed!
This engine is fucking amazing! How could they have fucked up a singleplayer game so goddam badly?
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heh, I've been trying to use grip LESS because it's the only 500 kill achievement I have already (got it on my first playthrough -_-). I still can't get use to target lock on, so I've given up. I figure I've made it to the last level on sith master, why bother at this point.
Proxy fell through the level 4 times. That was frustrating. It got to the point where I simply stopped ground pounding him. Took 4 waves of tie fighters to bring the star destroyer down. I got real lucky on one wave where I gripped and tossed the TF into another and it started a chain reaction of exploding tie fighters. The TF targetting on that level is just silly though... I'm glad it's done. I've basically cheesed every boss which is kind of sad.
Koto I knocked off his platform (when the ground is on fire) and he stood there and burned to death. I jump down and QTE him. Junkyard boss I lightning -> push him to death. Tossed a few yoda sculptures to make it seem less cheesy. Shaak ti ate repulse all day. Rancor was long and boring. Dodge charge -> combo. I'd throw my saber at him every now and then for shits and giggles. I got the dark side chick into an infinite loop where she'd repeatedly try to go invisible while i spammed XXYY. X's didn't deal damage but the Y's did some reason. She'd counter out of it every 1 out of 8+ times but she died. Proxy eats XXXB -> air combo all day long.
Despite the fact that you can run past 90% of the enemies right to the boss, I haven't been abusing that. I plan to on the Death Star's opening scene though. I'll beat it tomorrow... then it's fun times farming kills for achievements! The tall stormtroopers aren't as hard as I thought they'd be. Toss something at them and they fall over, then you can spam ground pound or the lightning combo and they'll trip over themselves all day long.
The lightning damage saber crystal you find on the 2nd to last level is pretty damn awesome. That and +damage force thing and I can basically kill anything in a stream of lightning. Regular damage is pretty nice and I guess it up's my saber lightning damage too (and lightning shield, which I have yet to upgrade/use).
Oh well.
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edited September 2008
That thing I just mentioned works even when people are hitting you. I don't know what I managed to do but I jinxed the grip throw in my own favour. A stormtrooper commander hit Starkiller in the face just as he threw the guy and it didn't break it, he still went zwoop.
Even the big yellow guys on felucia get tossed for miles using this.
As long as I have force nobody can get near me on that level. This is awesome.
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Not they shouldn't. Aegeri is 100% right about the demo being a big fat lie. You can't play the rest of the levels besides the first one and mess around as easily as the demo until you finish the game at least once and get to grips with the system and know how to counter everything, and know it's coming.
Umm, well yes, which is why I said they should rent it and not buy it if they liked the demo. Because 5 bucks for 1 spin through the story in 7-10 hours is a pretty decent deal. If you don't like it then yeah you're just out 5 bucks and not 60. Although, I don't think it's that hard to get 5 dollars of enjoyment out of this game.
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MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited September 2008
Son.
You preaching to the Pope.
Orright.
I just like to be fair, balance out the OMG GUYS DIS SHIT IS AWESOME with a realistic assessment of how someone else might take the game.
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I just like to be fair, balance out the OMG GUYS DIS SHIT IS AWESOME with a realistic assessment of how someone else might take the game.
Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest fanboy of them all?
Question: Which is better, the 360 or the Wii version? And by better, I mean more fun and less buggy. (I've done the DS version twice now and it feels too easy, too short and slightly boring.)
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MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited September 2008
I don't know. I only have a ps3 and psp man.
Someone back in the thread was talking about the Wii version, it apparently has a different combo system.
Ugh. I want my gf to come back with the camera, I want to recreate that scene again for you guys.
I don't suppose anyone knows how I'd record from my ps3 reasonably cheaply? It doesn't have to be super high quality. I honestly have no idea where to start looking.
I want to do some dmc4 stuff too.
Hmm I feel I should tell you Aegeri really hates this game and I think he had the 360 version. I've also heard the 360 version has some pretty gamebreaking glitches that can mess up your save that the ps3 doesn't have?
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Ok after spending sometime with the psp version of this I think I can say that the psp version is the best one out of the bunch. It doesn't have a lot of the stuff people are talking about in here. Plus it has additional force moves that are totally awesome. Not to mention the vs mode and historic battles.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
edited September 2008
I've also heard the 360 version has some pretty gamebreaking glitches that can mess up your save that the ps3 doesn't have?
I only heard that from one person in this thread, I haven't heard it from anyone else. I've not had it delete my saves or anything, nobody answered when I asked so I assume it's ultra rare or may be an unrelated problem.
Edit: The game is buggy but I don't think it's hitler.
Ok after spending sometime with the psp version of this I think I can say that the psp version is the best one out of the bunch. It doesn't have a lot of the stuff people are talking about in here. Plus it has additional force moves that are totally awesome. Not to mention the vs mode and historic battles.
I thought you hadn't played the ps3 360 ones? How do you know you wont like them too? You strike me as a pretty patient guy, or do I have you all wrong. :P
What are these extra moves?
Aegeri: Well. Similarly. The game is unrelenting rapture but I don't think it's Jesus.
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Ok after spending sometime with the psp version of this I think I can say that the psp version is the best one out of the bunch. It doesn't have a lot of the stuff people are talking about in here. Plus it has additional force moves that are totally awesome. Not to mention the vs mode and historic battles.
I thought you hadn't played the ps3 360 ones? How do you know you wont like them too? You strike me as a pretty patient guy, or do I have you all wrong. :P
What are these extra moves?
Aegeri: Well. Similarly. The game is unrelenting rapture but I don't think it's Jesus.
I played the demo of the 360 version and am judging from what people say in here.
You actually get a lot of extra moves like dark rage (makes it so you do more lightsaber damage and only regenerate force points when you hit someone), force choke/crush (as starkiller), force pummel (lift a dude with grip then toss everything around him at him all at once, i love this one its so awesome) Oh also you can move while blocking and almost 100% deflect blaster shots back at people if you stand still while blocking.
There extra game modes like the boss rush/duel mode, historic battles where you renact stuff from the movies with the super force stuff, order 66 mode thats basically survival against everything in the game (this mode is cool because it has a minicutscene with whoever you picked walking into the stage as your clonetrooper guys try to shoot you in the back), and some multiplayer modes.
You also get the ability to change your saber hilt along with the crystals and theres tons of extra costumes from the historic missions so you can play the whole game as luke skywalker or han solor if you want.
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edited September 2008
You actually get a lot of extra moves like dark rage (makes it so you do more lightsaber damage and only regenerate force points when you hit someone), force choke/crush (as starkiller), force pummel (lift a dude with grip then toss everything around him at him all at once, i love this one its so awesome) Oh also you can move while blocking and almost 100% deflect blaster shots back at people if you stand still while blocking.
All this makes it sound like a non-shit version of the "current gen" consoles ones to be honest.
Hmm I didn't notice this before but you can drop into blaster deflection instantly by holding R before hitting square and not moving. Neato
At first I didn't think dark rage was all that useful but now that theres more force resistant enemies it really does do wonders as it guard crushes them.
By the way is force maelstrom in the 360/PS3 version? Cause this is totally my new favorite move ever.
I've posted about the PSP version a few times, but it's probably gotten lost in the general hubbub about the buggy big versions (either that, or I maek boring poast... much more likely, TBH :P ). Yeah, this version ain't too shabby. I beat it with the Dark Side ending yesterday morning and am working on a second playthrough now.
My main complaint is to do with the camera. They don't use the up, left, and right directions on the D-pad for anything, yet there's no camera control apart from pressing down to recenter it. Lock on doesn't always like to work (press R + down), and when it is on, it can be hard to see or reach healing items. Heaven help you if you get stuck in a corner with either camera view.
I'm also irritated by how some enemies (particularly Felucians, but also Kota's Militia in the TIE Factory and several types of stormtroopers) are really hard to see at a distance.
Also, don't bother looking up anything at GameFAQs. The TFU PSP board users are convinced the Jedi Holocron, saber crystal, and hilt locations are completely random, but they're not. I borrowed the Strategy Guide from a Star Wars fan I know who collects this crap (all the video games and related stuffage) and started a separate file, and as of the first visit to Raxus Prime nearly all the item locations were A) identical to the Wii version and exactly where the item lists in the Appendix said they would be. A few things had been moved, but not many. You have to get a number of Holocrons and crystals by destroying certain objects (or, in the case of Holocrons, a certain number or type of objects). That's probably where the confusion sets in. I've also heard that some Holocrons won't appear if you're cheating, but I haven't bothered to find out.
Items aren't too hard to find if you're thorough and destroy everything. Just playing on my own, I had 188 out of 200 Holocrons, all saber crystals (4 red, 3 green, 3 blue, 3 purple, and 3 orange/yellow plus 6 enhancement crystals the game automatically gives you), 8 out of 10 lightsaber hilts, 23 out of 24 Health Boosts, and all 24 Force Boosts when I finished my first game.
Force Maelstrom is an awesome power. I recommend leveling that up alongside the basic Push and Lightning powers. At level 3 you can suck nearby enemies into it and fling them a good distance away. It's so very satisfying. I can't wait until I can max this one out. You also have limited invincibility frames when starting up the move, so you can abuse it in tough firefights to get a little breathing room.
Sith Scorcher seemed like it would be awesome, but it just drains your Force power too fast. Regular Force Lightning isn't much weaker and doesn't drain as fast.
Pummel is a basic but very useful power. I like flying enemies all over the room while constantly pressing R to fling boxes, rocks, garbage, other enemies, etc. into them until they die.
I also like the saber combos that end with force push or lightning; they're great push-away attacks and are effective against most regular enemies.
Keep saber throw powered up too. It's the best way of dealing with all the flying enemies, of which there are a fuckton later in the game (especially in Cloud City). It's also useful against AT-STs and Rancors for quick chip damage. Also, Force Gripping someone and then impaling them with the saber is usually a one- or two-hit kill even on tough enemies, and it's fun. Even works on Rahm Kota (and takes about 20% off of his health bar).
The bugs aren't too bad, either. The worst one I've had is that pole items will sometimes get stuck inside other pieces of the enviornment and rattle around constantly, and that's annoying mostly because of the ceaseless noise until you leave that area. It's also the only one that's happened more than once.
I'd definitely recommend the PSP version. I'm even thinking about renting the PS2 or Wii versions, just to see it on a TV screen, since they're basically the same game. I enjoy the sandboxy aspects of figuring out new and increasingly dickish ways to kill people as my powers get stronger and it's a fun way to kill time for an hour or so before I go to bed.
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o_O I didn't know you could kick jawas...........I need to go back and play that level.
So, I just beat the level with the Star Destroyer, these aren't thoughts about that level but what happens in the cut scene afterwards:
Now that's how u do a fucking Star Wars kiss. Put a guy and a girl who seem totally not interested in eachother besides sly looks and comments, put one in a perilious situation, then have the other kiss them. NO FUCKING PICNICS!!!!!! I"M TALKING TO U GEORGE LUCAS!!!!!! DARTH VADAR DOES NOT SURF ON COW'S ASSES!!!!!!!!!
That is all. P.S. Being on the Death Star fucking ROCKS!!!!!!!
So far, I would assume I'm about halfway done with the game. And I still feel, a bit wonky controls, espeically with picking who ur aiming at, but over all still a fantastic game.
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whats this i hear about the ps2 version, you get different missions. like sections where you go to the jedi temple on courasant... I had the ps3 version and i had none of that! My friend who got the ps2 version is telling me this, but he says he also didnt get the AWESOME boss fight before the star destroyer.
also, apparently the ps2 version allows you to use force choke?? crazy, man
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Did the PS2 version allow you to skip the Star Destroyer section?
Because if it didn't, it still sucks.
Yes, I'm calling it now, that sections sucks so much shit it single handedly destroyed the game. Seriously, how do you make something so awesome suck so much balls?
Yeah I think the PS2, Wii, and PSP versions have extra story missions that aren't in the 360 and PS3 versions. Wii also has a 2-player VS mode. And the PSP has some other standalone modes.
The Star Destroyer section is one of the easiest in the game, in my opinion. It's way less frustrating than, say, a legion of force-resistant enemies who are immune to your lightsaber until you find a hidden bastard who is teleporting all over the place and kill him first.
The Star Destroyer section is one of the easiest in the game, in my opinion. It's way less frustrating than, say, a legion of force-resistant enemies who are immune to your lightsaber until you find a hidden bastard who is teleporting all over the place and kill him first.
I think those Felucians are Lightsaber resistant, not force resistant. I seem to remember picking them up and flinging them all about. They might be immune to Force Lightning, I can't remember. I'm sure someone will be along soon to either confirm or correct.
pretty sure you can lightning them. I recall using them as lightning grenades and it worked so... the red thing only makes them saber immune (resistant or whatever).
I did say force-resistant, not immune. It's not worth your time to fling them about at the level you are when you get to those enemies until you take out the Shaman or whatever the hell he's called so that their resistances are lowered.
Ah, okay. I guess I never noticed them standing up to my force flings any better than before. Lightning Grenades seemed to do okay, but perhaps you're right in that regard. I will admit though, that I did start looking for that Shaman bastich the minute anyone turned red, just cause I didn't want to have to not use one of my avenues of attack.
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edited September 2008
It's probably worth mentioning that, in the PSP version at least, the star destroyer take-down is a CUT SCENE and not a gameplay element. So all your frustrations over the next-gen console version of this encounter are nullified for the PSP. You just get to watch him push it into the ground.
Someone a few pages back asked about the extra gameplay modes. On the PSP, I think the exclusive is "historic missions" of which there are are five:
Count Dooku's Quarters (Ep III)
The Dune Sea (Return of the Jedi)
Carbonite Chamber (Empire Strikes Back -- you play as Vader not Luke)
Genosis Arena (Ep II -- you play as Mace Windu)
Mustafar Anakin/Kenboi duel (you play as Obi Wan)
These are not just straight-up duels, though. Many of them have "phases" and deviate slightly from the cannon to give it an extra twist -- like Anakin calling in battledroids in the middle of the Mustafar fight.
They all end the same as in the movies, though, and there's spoken dialogue that's lifted straight from the scene it's based on (except for Anakin's voice, for some reason they re-voiced it and it actually sounds WORSE if you can possibly believe that). I think all 5 are very well done, but after you've beaten each mission there's little reason to go back and play it again unless you just want to relive that scene with badass force powers.
There are a few other modes too, but I'm not sure how exclusive they are to the PSP:
Order 66 has about 20-something waves of enemies that you have to fight off. Every group of 6 waves is fought in a specific arena, with a short cutscene to set the stage for most fights. Some waves are "filler" groups of storm troopers that get increasingly annoying at each wave, until eventually you're up against the flying assholes and the rapid-fire imperial officers that can take you down in two seconds. Every 6 waves there's some sort of mini-boss, either a jedi/sith, Rancor, super-droid or something. I have yet to beat Order 66 (you get 3 lives) but apparently when you beat it you can unlock Darth Maul so it's a good goal. Also, beating Order 66 gives you a new mode called "Force Out" but I hear that it's just a shitty multiplayer mode that no one likes, so "meh" I say.
Force Duel is basically beating about 12 star wars characters in duels. Halfway through your duel rotation, they start coming in pairs and you have a 2v1 situation, so it gets pretty challenging. Non-stop action, I like this mode.
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MorningLord, can you please explain in detail (as you do so well) exactly what Advanced Force mode is and what it means to disable it?
My feedback on this game: (Disclaimer: I am a huge Star Wars fan, and am usually more on the forgiving side for games that get lower reviews -- eg. I enjoyed Enter the Matrix...)
Firstly, the story is amazing. Gripped me (lol) right away, and can't wait to unravel more. Blah, blah, voice acting is great. Looks great. Sam Witwer is awesome. We've heard all this before. (Sidenote: Sam Witwer called into my favorite podcast called "Bigfanboy" last Thursday. It's a great episode, you should check it out.)
The gameplay:
Do you like fun? Do you like using the force? Do you like kicking all sorts of ass with the force? Do you like customizing your character as you level up? Do you like lightsabers?
If you answered 'YES' to any or all of these questions, then YOU WILL HAVE SOME FUN WITH THIS GAME.
Now, I know there are some issues here. Personally, I have only encountered one bug so far. On Raxis Prime, I was walking on the left ledge after clearing all of the enemies when you are crossing the scrap chasm, and I was all of a sudden blasted off the edge and fell to my death as if I was force pushed by a non-existent enemy.
I realize that some of you object to certain force power-immune enemies. Yes, this is not cannon, but the game has to make you a bit vulnerable and make you use tactics...or it wouldn't be fun. Then there would be complaints that it was too easy.
Combat:
There are lots of combos. They are awesome.
Certain parts that are balls hard, and other poor design choices:
Agreed. Totally. But this shouldn't ruin the whole experience...
Basically, I always find that the hype for games of this caliber always hurt the game more than help it. It can never live up to the expectations that all of us have. So, it is not perfect and it has bugs...I find that if you can be a bit more forgiving and just enjoy the game for the Franchise, the characters, acting, action, and ass kickery, and a truly awesome story, you have a great game with lots of replayability here. Just try to be a bit more lenient, and you will enjoy yourself.
The above is just my opinion. Just trying to get more people back on the Force train.
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PunkBoyThank you! And thank you again!Registered Userregular
edited September 2008
I think I enjoy Aerial Slam too much. Combo-ing out of it is overkill, but satisfying to watch. It makes for fun boss fights when I pull it off.
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Beat it on Sith Master. I'll spoiler this just in case:
Went up against Vader since the first time I fought the Emperor.
It's kind of funny, I barely ever manage to get into force duels but Vader I got engaged with constantly. What's silly though is even if you win, you deal no damage and Vader doesn't even get knocked down so there really is no point. I've never managed to push or lightning vader successfully so once I figured that out I just stopped using those powers.
Saber combat against him was also pretty pointless, especially the force-based combos (or any combo over 2 hits). Even when I was hitting him he'd suddenly counter anytime I hit him with a 3rd hit. BTW, am I the only one who can't block after doing a lightning based combo or try to block to interrupt a lightning based combo? I started doing XY block, but instead my guy just froze in that retarded 2nd swing pose until I either finished the combo, jump, or got hit (I probably could dash out of it but I didn't try).
So force push, repulse, lightning, saber throw, (charged) lightning shield, and saber swings over 2 hits all don't work on Vader.... sweet.
Then I figured out grip works after about 3 attempts. So basically I ran around the mini-rink grip (fail) -> run, repeatx3. When it connected, quick throw, slide over ground pound once or twice then run away and do it all over again. Oh, and sometimes I'd manage to saber lock and win and that'd get him on the ground too.
If there's another strategy for him I couldn't figure it out. The first fight I just toyed with him until he did his super force push with the insane wind up, combo'ed behind him into an air-based combo... but the ONE time he actually tried the super force push, he countered me after my 3rd hit again despite hitting him in the back and having him stagger around...
(EDIT) BTW, has anyone ever used the X pause X pause X pause X combo? It's pretty cool looking but I've never seen a reasonable use for it since almost every jedi fight will have countered it, and any non jedi is generally dead far earlier (or you're riddled with bullets taking so long combo'ing one dude).
Not sure if it has been mentioned yet but the recent time magazine gave the game an A and it is the only game mentioned in the mag. It is very interesting how much regular media differs with the gaming media. I mean out of all the games of summer this is the only one mentioned and it gets a perfect score? Reading the little blurb though it seems as though they reviewed the premise more than the game. You are darth vader's apprentice and you kill stuff with the force = A.
(EDIT) BTW, has anyone ever used the X pause X pause X pause X combo? It's pretty cool looking but I've never seen a reasonable use for it since almost every jedi fight will have countered it, and any non jedi is generally dead far earlier (or you're riddled with bullets taking so long combo'ing one dude).
The only time I've used it was in the training room challenge where you have to kill everybody using only it.
WTF - I just beat the game and got the light side ending... but I seem to have managed to play right through completely unaware that I made any morality choices... how do you get the dark side ending? what determines whether you're light or dark?
WTF - I just beat the game and got the light side ending... but I seem to have managed to play right through completely unaware that I made any morality choices... how do you get the dark side ending? what determines whether you're light or dark?
After you fight Vader, you're faced with either defending Kota from The Emperor or finishing off Vader. The Emperor is to the left. Vader is down and to the right.
Wow, I got this game yesterday, and I'm having a pretty good time with it. It really seems like the way things have gone for this game are like STALKER and Assassin's Creed combined. Completely polar reviews and several glitches (although I've only experienced one)
also after Felucia
Did anyone else notice the paralells with the Executor cutscene and the end of Return of the Jedi? It really shows that vader grew a fucking spine when he saved Luke
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...anyone go for the waggle version?
my roommate bought the 360 build. Though it can be quite entertaining, the games short comings have left me pretty unimpressed. I'm just wondering if the wii build is any better on that front.
I'm playing on Sith Master, and think Sith Warrior would be more fun, just because I do find myself dieing a lot.
I like that you don't lose force points when you die. Because I've been getting around 80% of the holocrons, and racking up tons of force points retrying certain tough parts, I'm nearly maxed out (i think like 4 more force talents and force powers). I unlocked all force combos before finishing
Yes the camera leave a lot to be desired. Sometime I really wish there was a first person view button. (Having most recently played Assassin's Creed I sometimes find myself shooting lightening when trying to get a better view of where I am).
I don't use the target lock as much as I should, well really at all. It seems to have some benefit. Also, I think I'll try turning off the Advanced force powers and see how that goes.
I also plan on reading all the data banks after my current mission to see if it fills in enough of the gaps in the story, if not I might check the book out from the library after I finish the game.
Steam ID: Good Life
I just broke this game.
I'm completely serious.
I was on stage three, running around playing with advanced force off. And I randomly discovered that pumping the grip trigger twice quickly, similar to a tap but more like a rev, would guarantee this instant max speed grip throw I was talking about earlier. Without any major thinking on my part.
And I've been practising turning and targetting creatures in order to jump and aerial strike them ever since I bought the move!
I'm literally not lying when I say I'm doing shit so crazy I don't think you'll believe it.
I fucking repulsed a felucian coming at me from behind, turned, instant gripped him back around the other way, turned and caught him mid air and instant sent him straight up. I spent the first few encounters of the level messing around working out what I could do with this flawless instant grip thing.
And then I had the most amazing fucking Star Wars battle of my life.
I have to spoil this.
In between aerial striking and lightning this rancor, I was able to turn and instantly catch felucians in mid pounce coming at Starkillers face and throw them instantly. You know that leap they do at you from a distance? I was hearing growls in my blind spot, and I'd whip Starkiller in the direction of the sound, hit target, hold left or right, double tapp grip, and throw them so fast I could only catch glimpses of them leaping at Starkillers face as the camera span around before they dissappeared off camera again!
I killed the rancor by throwing every object I could target at it, living or dead, within a few seconds, then I did the qte and then after it was dead I spent the most awesome twenty seconds of my life spinning from side to side catching each leaping monster as it came at me and throwing them out of the arena! I didn't even get touched! They couldn't even get near me!
God my gf is taking her digital camera with her today or I'd fucking record a video because you have to see this shit. I just did it and I can't believe it I did it.
You can do it so fast you can throw them behind you, turn and catch them mid air, throw them again.
Soon as she comes home with the camera I'm uploading a vid this is fucking nuts. In between blocking, repulsing and mid air catching/throwing I didn't take any damage at all from anything but the rancor!
There was a point where I threw one guy into two of his friends, and started a chain reaction that sent them pinwheeling into an explodey bush, and then repulsed another one who had landed directly behind me, span and caught him before he landed and instantly threw him into a another guy and they both flew into another one of those exploding plants, and the framerate couldn't keep up with the physics going on!
I just made my own John Woo presents The Force Unleashed!
This engine is fucking amazing! How could they have fucked up a singleplayer game so goddam badly?
Proxy fell through the level 4 times. That was frustrating. It got to the point where I simply stopped ground pounding him. Took 4 waves of tie fighters to bring the star destroyer down. I got real lucky on one wave where I gripped and tossed the TF into another and it started a chain reaction of exploding tie fighters. The TF targetting on that level is just silly though... I'm glad it's done. I've basically cheesed every boss which is kind of sad.
Koto I knocked off his platform (when the ground is on fire) and he stood there and burned to death. I jump down and QTE him. Junkyard boss I lightning -> push him to death. Tossed a few yoda sculptures to make it seem less cheesy. Shaak ti ate repulse all day. Rancor was long and boring. Dodge charge -> combo. I'd throw my saber at him every now and then for shits and giggles. I got the dark side chick into an infinite loop where she'd repeatedly try to go invisible while i spammed XXYY. X's didn't deal damage but the Y's did some reason. She'd counter out of it every 1 out of 8+ times but she died. Proxy eats XXXB -> air combo all day long.
Despite the fact that you can run past 90% of the enemies right to the boss, I haven't been abusing that. I plan to on the Death Star's opening scene though. I'll beat it tomorrow... then it's fun times farming kills for achievements! The tall stormtroopers aren't as hard as I thought they'd be. Toss something at them and they fall over, then you can spam ground pound or the lightning combo and they'll trip over themselves all day long.
The lightning damage saber crystal you find on the 2nd to last level is pretty damn awesome. That and +damage force thing and I can basically kill anything in a stream of lightning. Regular damage is pretty nice and I guess it up's my saber lightning damage too (and lightning shield, which I have yet to upgrade/use).
Oh well.
Even the big yellow guys on felucia get tossed for miles using this.
As long as I have force nobody can get near me on that level. This is awesome.
Umm, well yes, which is why I said they should rent it and not buy it if they liked the demo. Because 5 bucks for 1 spin through the story in 7-10 hours is a pretty decent deal. If you don't like it then yeah you're just out 5 bucks and not 60. Although, I don't think it's that hard to get 5 dollars of enjoyment out of this game.
You preaching to the Pope.
Orright.
I just like to be fair, balance out the OMG GUYS DIS SHIT IS AWESOME with a realistic assessment of how someone else might take the game.
I'm thinking I gotta rent this sucker.
Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest fanboy of them all?
Question: Which is better, the 360 or the Wii version? And by better, I mean more fun and less buggy. (I've done the DS version twice now and it feels too easy, too short and slightly boring.)
Someone back in the thread was talking about the Wii version, it apparently has a different combo system.
Ugh. I want my gf to come back with the camera, I want to recreate that scene again for you guys.
I don't suppose anyone knows how I'd record from my ps3 reasonably cheaply? It doesn't have to be super high quality. I honestly have no idea where to start looking.
I want to do some dmc4 stuff too.
Hmm I feel I should tell you Aegeri really hates this game and I think he had the 360 version. I've also heard the 360 version has some pretty gamebreaking glitches that can mess up your save that the ps3 doesn't have?
I never asked for this!
I only heard that from one person in this thread, I haven't heard it from anyone else. I've not had it delete my saves or anything, nobody answered when I asked so I assume it's ultra rare or may be an unrelated problem.
Edit: The game is buggy but I don't think it's hitler.
I thought you hadn't played the ps3 360 ones? How do you know you wont like them too? You strike me as a pretty patient guy, or do I have you all wrong. :P
What are these extra moves?
Aegeri: Well. Similarly. The game is unrelenting rapture but I don't think it's Jesus.
You actually get a lot of extra moves like dark rage (makes it so you do more lightsaber damage and only regenerate force points when you hit someone), force choke/crush (as starkiller), force pummel (lift a dude with grip then toss everything around him at him all at once, i love this one its so awesome) Oh also you can move while blocking and almost 100% deflect blaster shots back at people if you stand still while blocking.
There extra game modes like the boss rush/duel mode, historic battles where you renact stuff from the movies with the super force stuff, order 66 mode thats basically survival against everything in the game (this mode is cool because it has a minicutscene with whoever you picked walking into the stage as your clonetrooper guys try to shoot you in the back), and some multiplayer modes.
You also get the ability to change your saber hilt along with the crystals and theres tons of extra costumes from the historic missions so you can play the whole game as luke skywalker or han solor if you want.
I never asked for this!
All this makes it sound like a non-shit version of the "current gen" consoles ones to be honest.
At first I didn't think dark rage was all that useful but now that theres more force resistant enemies it really does do wonders as it guard crushes them.
By the way is force maelstrom in the 360/PS3 version? Cause this is totally my new favorite move ever.
I never asked for this!
My main complaint is to do with the camera. They don't use the up, left, and right directions on the D-pad for anything, yet there's no camera control apart from pressing down to recenter it. Lock on doesn't always like to work (press R + down), and when it is on, it can be hard to see or reach healing items. Heaven help you if you get stuck in a corner with either camera view.
I'm also irritated by how some enemies (particularly Felucians, but also Kota's Militia in the TIE Factory and several types of stormtroopers) are really hard to see at a distance.
Also, don't bother looking up anything at GameFAQs. The TFU PSP board users are convinced the Jedi Holocron, saber crystal, and hilt locations are completely random, but they're not. I borrowed the Strategy Guide from a Star Wars fan I know who collects this crap (all the video games and related stuffage) and started a separate file, and as of the first visit to Raxus Prime nearly all the item locations were A) identical to the Wii version and
Items aren't too hard to find if you're thorough and destroy everything. Just playing on my own, I had 188 out of 200 Holocrons, all saber crystals (4 red, 3 green, 3 blue, 3 purple, and 3 orange/yellow plus 6 enhancement crystals the game automatically gives you), 8 out of 10 lightsaber hilts, 23 out of 24 Health Boosts, and all 24 Force Boosts when I finished my first game.
Force Maelstrom is an awesome power. I recommend leveling that up alongside the basic Push and Lightning powers. At level 3 you can suck nearby enemies into it and fling them a good distance away. It's so very satisfying. I can't wait until I can max this one out. You also have limited invincibility frames when starting up the move, so you can abuse it in tough firefights to get a little breathing room.
Sith Scorcher seemed like it would be awesome, but it just drains your Force power too fast. Regular Force Lightning isn't much weaker and doesn't drain as fast.
Pummel is a basic but very useful power. I like flying enemies all over the room while constantly pressing R to fling boxes, rocks, garbage, other enemies, etc. into them until they die.
I also like the saber combos that end with force push or lightning; they're great push-away attacks and are effective against most regular enemies.
Keep saber throw powered up too. It's the best way of dealing with all the flying enemies, of which there are a fuckton later in the game (especially in Cloud City). It's also useful against AT-STs and Rancors for quick chip damage. Also, Force Gripping someone and then impaling them with the saber is usually a one- or two-hit kill even on tough enemies, and it's fun. Even works on Rahm Kota (and takes about 20% off of his health bar).
The bugs aren't too bad, either. The worst one I've had is that pole items will sometimes get stuck inside other pieces of the enviornment and rattle around constantly, and that's annoying mostly because of the ceaseless noise until you leave that area. It's also the only one that's happened more than once.
I'd definitely recommend the PSP version. I'm even thinking about renting the PS2 or Wii versions, just to see it on a TV screen, since they're basically the same game. I enjoy the sandboxy aspects of figuring out new and increasingly dickish ways to kill people as my powers get stronger and it's a fun way to kill time for an hour or so before I go to bed.
o_O I didn't know you could kick jawas...........I need to go back and play that level.
So, I just beat the level with the Star Destroyer, these aren't thoughts about that level but what happens in the cut scene afterwards:
Now that's how u do a fucking Star Wars kiss. Put a guy and a girl who seem totally not interested in eachother besides sly looks and comments, put one in a perilious situation, then have the other kiss them. NO FUCKING PICNICS!!!!!! I"M TALKING TO U GEORGE LUCAS!!!!!! DARTH VADAR DOES NOT SURF ON COW'S ASSES!!!!!!!!!
That is all. P.S. Being on the Death Star fucking ROCKS!!!!!!!
So far, I would assume I'm about halfway done with the game. And I still feel, a bit wonky controls, espeically with picking who ur aiming at, but over all still a fantastic game.
Serve me right for being a smart ass.
Demonstration of instant grip throw for crowd control, the use of.
whats this i hear about the ps2 version, you get different missions. like sections where you go to the jedi temple on courasant... I had the ps3 version and i had none of that! My friend who got the ps2 version is telling me this, but he says he also didnt get the AWESOME boss fight before the star destroyer.
also, apparently the ps2 version allows you to use force choke?? crazy, man
Because if it didn't, it still sucks.
Yes, I'm calling it now, that sections sucks so much shit it single handedly destroyed the game. Seriously, how do you make something so awesome suck so much balls?
I think those Felucians are Lightsaber resistant, not force resistant. I seem to remember picking them up and flinging them all about. They might be immune to Force Lightning, I can't remember. I'm sure someone will be along soon to either confirm or correct.
Im not seeing what you are demonstrating new here. You're just throwing the enemies normally.
Someone a few pages back asked about the extra gameplay modes. On the PSP, I think the exclusive is "historic missions" of which there are are five:
Count Dooku's Quarters (Ep III)
The Dune Sea (Return of the Jedi)
Carbonite Chamber (Empire Strikes Back -- you play as Vader not Luke)
Genosis Arena (Ep II -- you play as Mace Windu)
Mustafar Anakin/Kenboi duel (you play as Obi Wan)
These are not just straight-up duels, though. Many of them have "phases" and deviate slightly from the cannon to give it an extra twist -- like Anakin calling in battledroids in the middle of the Mustafar fight.
They all end the same as in the movies, though, and there's spoken dialogue that's lifted straight from the scene it's based on (except for Anakin's voice, for some reason they re-voiced it and it actually sounds WORSE if you can possibly believe that). I think all 5 are very well done, but after you've beaten each mission there's little reason to go back and play it again unless you just want to relive that scene with badass force powers.
There are a few other modes too, but I'm not sure how exclusive they are to the PSP:
Order 66 has about 20-something waves of enemies that you have to fight off. Every group of 6 waves is fought in a specific arena, with a short cutscene to set the stage for most fights. Some waves are "filler" groups of storm troopers that get increasingly annoying at each wave, until eventually you're up against the flying assholes and the rapid-fire imperial officers that can take you down in two seconds. Every 6 waves there's some sort of mini-boss, either a jedi/sith, Rancor, super-droid or something. I have yet to beat Order 66 (you get 3 lives) but apparently when you beat it you can unlock Darth Maul so it's a good goal. Also, beating Order 66 gives you a new mode called "Force Out" but I hear that it's just a shitty multiplayer mode that no one likes, so "meh" I say.
Force Duel is basically beating about 12 star wars characters in duels. Halfway through your duel rotation, they start coming in pairs and you have a 2v1 situation, so it gets pretty challenging. Non-stop action, I like this mode.
"Uh, I have never said that you are not good at what you do. It's just that what you do is not worth doing." -S.C.
My feedback on this game: (Disclaimer: I am a huge Star Wars fan, and am usually more on the forgiving side for games that get lower reviews -- eg. I enjoyed Enter the Matrix...)
Firstly, the story is amazing. Gripped me (lol) right away, and can't wait to unravel more. Blah, blah, voice acting is great. Looks great. Sam Witwer is awesome. We've heard all this before. (Sidenote: Sam Witwer called into my favorite podcast called "Bigfanboy" last Thursday. It's a great episode, you should check it out.)
The gameplay:
Do you like fun? Do you like using the force? Do you like kicking all sorts of ass with the force? Do you like customizing your character as you level up? Do you like lightsabers?
If you answered 'YES' to any or all of these questions, then YOU WILL HAVE SOME FUN WITH THIS GAME.
Now, I know there are some issues here. Personally, I have only encountered one bug so far. On Raxis Prime, I was walking on the left ledge after clearing all of the enemies when you are crossing the scrap chasm, and I was all of a sudden blasted off the edge and fell to my death as if I was force pushed by a non-existent enemy.
I realize that some of you object to certain force power-immune enemies. Yes, this is not cannon, but the game has to make you a bit vulnerable and make you use tactics...or it wouldn't be fun. Then there would be complaints that it was too easy.
Combat:
There are lots of combos. They are awesome.
Certain parts that are balls hard, and other poor design choices:
Agreed. Totally. But this shouldn't ruin the whole experience...
Basically, I always find that the hype for games of this caliber always hurt the game more than help it. It can never live up to the expectations that all of us have. So, it is not perfect and it has bugs...I find that if you can be a bit more forgiving and just enjoy the game for the Franchise, the characters, acting, action, and ass kickery, and a truly awesome story, you have a great game with lots of replayability here. Just try to be a bit more lenient, and you will enjoy yourself.
The above is just my opinion. Just trying to get more people back on the Force train.
PSN: BuckySuperJew
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It's kind of funny, I barely ever manage to get into force duels but Vader I got engaged with constantly. What's silly though is even if you win, you deal no damage and Vader doesn't even get knocked down so there really is no point. I've never managed to push or lightning vader successfully so once I figured that out I just stopped using those powers.
Saber combat against him was also pretty pointless, especially the force-based combos (or any combo over 2 hits). Even when I was hitting him he'd suddenly counter anytime I hit him with a 3rd hit. BTW, am I the only one who can't block after doing a lightning based combo or try to block to interrupt a lightning based combo? I started doing XY block, but instead my guy just froze in that retarded 2nd swing pose until I either finished the combo, jump, or got hit (I probably could dash out of it but I didn't try).
So force push, repulse, lightning, saber throw, (charged) lightning shield, and saber swings over 2 hits all don't work on Vader.... sweet.
Then I figured out grip works after about 3 attempts. So basically I ran around the mini-rink grip (fail) -> run, repeatx3. When it connected, quick throw, slide over ground pound once or twice then run away and do it all over again. Oh, and sometimes I'd manage to saber lock and win and that'd get him on the ground too.
If there's another strategy for him I couldn't figure it out. The first fight I just toyed with him until he did his super force push with the insane wind up, combo'ed behind him into an air-based combo... but the ONE time he actually tried the super force push, he countered me after my 3rd hit again despite hitting him in the back and having him stagger around...
(EDIT) BTW, has anyone ever used the X pause X pause X pause X combo? It's pretty cool looking but I've never seen a reasonable use for it since almost every jedi fight will have countered it, and any non jedi is generally dead far earlier (or you're riddled with bullets taking so long combo'ing one dude).
Steam ID: Good Life
also after Felucia