As a kid I had a super skill at finding glitches and bugs in games.
When I was 6 I'd play marble madness on my Tandy 1000 and found out that holding down the esc button would after 5 seconds cause the game to start moving in slow motion as it pause/unpaused rapidly. Enabling my poor muscle control to beat the game numerous times.
When I was 10 I found all sorts of excellent bugs in Ultima 7. Moving back and forth a screen length from a farm to slaughter cows and a horse a hundred times to level up to max and save/loading to cheat at gambling in buccaneer's den.
When I was 12 I found many places to jump outside the world of Ultima 8 and cruise around to other places. Sometimes taking shortcuts or finding trippy half-built left-overs from the developers.
All of the old gold-box AD&D games were exploitable by saving a character, then loading him again somehow with a new name into your party to duplicate items. As soon as i found one vorpal blade, my entire team starting decapatating fools.
Also found a fuck-ton of holes in Everquest. I used them to cheat farm exp, but only in off-hours when GMs werent around.
And the absolute best i've ever done was soloing DRAGONS in Everquest as a bard! Thats right, what would normally take a team of 12-20 players and hours of planning took me 15 minutes, fancy footwork, and an awesome exploit.
Playing through Fable II thinking that those angry Scottish voices were just ambient sound.
Never figured out WTF that place underneath the Bowerstone bridge was about either.
Double jump and dodges in UT were lost to me for weeks of initial play, did one by accident one day and escaped was an audible 'Whaaaaooohmygod..."
Spent a flippin lifetime bomb jumping up to that mouth before Kraid earlier than your supposed to.
Also in Ys IV for SNES, the beginning stage seen in the first few minutes of the game on the video below was awesome!
I was about 12 when I played the game, and it was a tough nut for a young kid. But I figured out you could EXP yourself to an ungodly
number by taping the attack button down and then place yourself in a very specific spot in that dungeon.
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edited December 2008
A little while after FF7 showed up and got me to transition from Nintendo to Playstation, I picked up Xenogears. At that point in time, FF7 was the only RPG I'd ever really played. I played maybe the first 2-3 hours before I hit the a boss called Calamity and it proceeded to endlessly kick my giants robot ass.
After a while, I got pissed off because I simply could not kill the thing and gave up on the game. About six months later, after getting a little more RPG experience under my belt, I decide to pick up where I left off. At this time, I discovered a number of things such as being able to repair my gears via the old man in the cavern (I didn't know you could do that originally), deathblows giving the gears special attacks (didn't know about that), and using status effect ether attacks (didn't know about that either). Thus, the one fight that had been trashing me turned out to be pretty easy.
Then I played through the rest of the game and got mad because the point I got stuck at happened before basically everything interesting in the entire game occurred. To this day, the scale of that game still impresses me.
In case that isn't 'nuff said enough for you, I always tried to power my way through the rotating barrel parts in the Carnival Night Zone using timed jumps. It wasn't until over a decade later that I found out you can do it very easily using up and down on the controller.
Fuck.
OH MY GOD YES!
I tried MY WHOLE LIFE to get past that level and never could! It wasn't untill sometime last year that somebody on these forums mentioned that it took him forever to figure out you had to press up and down.
Holy crud I hated that...
A billion times yes here. Hell, I didn't even beat the game for years because of this.
In our defense, though, it isn't so much an example of playing wrong as it is an example of very bad game design (all the more strange since it is in an otherwise excellent game). I mean, what indication--at all--was there that pressing down while standing on the barrels would do anything? The only other object in the 2D Sonics that can be manipulated by pressing down would be the various hanging contraptions, and it's kinda obvious when you're hanging on them that you're not in a normal mode (since, y'know, you don't look like you're just standing there).
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I didn't figure this out until a few years ago, either. I always had to plug the second controller in so tails could carry sonic past that section.
I dug out the Sonic 3 manual a few minutes ago to see if it mentioned anything about it. It did mention something about Sonic getting stuck in traps that might force you to reset the game (huh?), but there's nothing at all about pressing up and down to manipulate the drums.
The first picture I found with google while looking for information on the spinning drums. Contains appropriate text:
For Final Fantasy Tactics I didn't realize it would tell you the percentage of attack and damage at the bottom of the screen, so I'd gone through 95% of the game just using 'attack' on any enemy. When my friend came over and showed me, I felt like such a tool. Made the next few battles sooo much easier.
Also on Final Fantasy 7, I didn't realize that different weapons and armor leveled up materia differently, so when I was leveling up my materia in the last cave, I threw on everyones ultimate weapon(which doesn't level up materia at all) and couldn't figure out why only half my materia was gaining levels. Ugh.
I do have to say, for the uninitiated(i.e. the previous generation) this is a pretty common mistake. My dad went balls out on a full HD setup with surround sound and such when he moved down to florida(yeah, he's that guy.) and when I went down I had to rewire his whole setup since it was all pretty much just barely functional. To be honest, he handles computers pretty well so he isn't stupid, he just doesn't understand.
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I do have to say, for the uninitiated(i.e. the previous generation) this is a pretty common mistake. My dad went balls out on a full HD setup with surround sound and such when he moved down to florida(yeah, he's that guy.) and when I went down I had to rewire his whole setup since it was all pretty much just barely functional. To be honest, he handles computers pretty well so he isn't stupid, he just doesn't understand.
In his defense, resolution doesn't really mean shit. I happily game on a Sony 21" CRT at 1024x768 and I don't really notice a big difference compared to 720p on an LCD. CRTs are just that awesome. But even 480p destroys 480i. Packing in composite cables with an HD console is inexcusable.
The only time I really played it wrong was with FF6 when I was 7
It was my first rpg and I had no idea what I was doing and I managed to get all the way to the world of ruin using only the natural magic of terra and celes and every characters starting equipment at that point I realized that I never really opened the menu other than to save or use potions and I accidentally got into the equip screen
It's not really his fault. It's not logical that you'd need any cables other than those packed with the console and all this HDTV stuff can be rather confusing.
That said, why do so many people on GAF have annoying to look at animated avatars?
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edited December 2008
In tf2
I get into the zone
Sometimes this zone is resistant to team color change
So I try to heal the pretty crit rocket coming at me.
Also I refuse to play Jedi Outcast without max force powers from start to finish and g_saberrealisticcombat 2 (lets you block and they dont die just from running into your sword but one clean kill is death).
But I also refuse to believe that this is wrong.
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If by yacht you mean large gray thing called a US Navy Frigate I used to work on, and by own you mean I pay my tax money, which in turn pays for the Navy, then yes, I own a yacht.
I didn't know you guys called it a boat, thought you would have had some special navy slang for it. Anyways congratulations on your yacht, its always been a dream of mine to own one.
The special Navy slang for it is "a ship". I called it a boat because a frigate's too small to be taken seriously as a ship.
I lived on a carrier (USS Independence: CV-62) and we called it a "boat" too. But that was more out of disgust than anything.
I've played Fallout 3 about two hours so far, and have punched everyone I've met in the face. When I got to megaton I punched the sheriff and took his duster and cowboy hat, threw on some brass knuckles, and have gone in to a super-duper-mart, and snuck around giving everyone a pop in the chops, looking like a total badass in VATS.
I dont know if thats playing it wrong or right, but I kinda wanna do a Lets Play of Kaste the Cowboy Brawler.
Also all my points are in Speechcraft and melee weapons.
I've played Fallout 3 about two hours so far, and have punched everyone I've met in the face. When I got to megaton I punched the sheriff and took his duster and cowboy hat, threw on some brass knuckles, and have gone in to a super-duper-mart, and snuck around giving everyone a pop in the chops, looking like a total badass in VATS.
I dont know if thats playing it wrong or right, but I kinda wanna do a Lets Play of Kaste the Cowboy Brawler.
Also all my points are in Speechcraft and melee weapons.
I'm surprised you made it that far just wanging people in the jowls. I had terrible luck punching... then again I was a small arms character.
Oh, I know... When I got Dogmeat, he got in one little fight and I got scared(yeah, like the fresh prince) and I sent him back to 101... I love that furry bastard and I can't stand seeing him burnt up in some force field again.
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a long long time ago, I used to win races in microprose grand prix by just doing pit maneuvers on the other drivers.
As previously mentioned I used to sideswipe and drive backwards in many racing games, but this... this became stuff of legend. I could perform a perfectly executed PIT maneuver and continue driving with minimal speed loss, making me the last person to get picked to play NASCAR, GT 1, 2 or 3 or any other racing game with semi realistic physics.
Also, I was pretty good at Gran Turismo 3 at one point, I would race my friends in a stock Mini Cooper and would give them the Pikes Peak Escudo fully tuned(or any other highly tuned car of their choice) and still end up beating them most of the time. I would have to say that is about as humiliating as it could get in GT racing.
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Sideswiping people into the pit in Forza 2, or driving in reverse....
I had some friends back in High school that liked to play those EA Nascar games (I dislike both Nascar and those games).
Anyway, whenever they'd play I'd join in just to turn around and drive the wrong way around the track and try to wreck them, which pissed them off mightily.
Though I think that's playing it right, because it wasn't fun any other way.
I did this a lot in Destruction Derby, and while it may not have been the intended way to play, it certainly felt right.
I guess I better join this club too. My friend and I found that we can't win races online in Grid so we drive the track backwards or park end to end across the track. I never engage in griefing otherwise but it's just too tempting.
After playing WoW for 3 years, I still use the default interface and am a keyboard turner.
When I played WoW, I used the default interface most of the time too. I don't understand how someone would be able to only turn using the keyboard. Turning all the way around takes forever if you don't use the mouse.
4. Convince self I need this new shiny game (this step takes very little)
5. Repeat process until backlog is insurmountable.
6. Title self "collector."
I know lots of people like this and they're annoying as hell.
I feel I need to elaborate here.
SimBen: HEY HAVE YOU PLAYED (SOME GAME) YET? IT'S AWESOME!!
Me: NO BUT I BEAT KILLER7 YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE WHY HAVEN'T YOU YET?? THAT'S RIGHT YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE DO YOU?? STOP PLAYING OTHER GAMES AND BEAT KILLER7.
Likewise, SimBen has been busy playing many other video games instead of finishing the Chrono Trigger LP. Yes, I'm throwing him under the proverbial bus. I don't care. He needs it.
4. Convince self I need this new shiny game (this step takes very little)
5. Repeat process until backlog is insurmountable.
6. Title self "collector."
I know lots of people like this and they're annoying as hell.
I feel I need to elaborate here.
SimBen: HEY HAVE YOU PLAYED (SOME GAME) YET? IT'S AWESOME!!
Me: NO BUT I BEAT KILLER7 YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE WHY HAVEN'T YOU YET?? THAT'S RIGHT YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE DO YOU?? STOP PLAYING OTHER GAMES AND BEAT KILLER7.
Likewise, SimBen has been busy playing many other video games instead of finishing the Chrono Trigger LP. Yes, I'm throwing him under the proverbial bus. I don't care. He needs it.
He is the kind of gamer I cannot stand.
I would subscribe to a recovery program of some sort. By not beating games I'm missing a crucial sense of satisfaction associated with the experience. I WANT TO GET BETTER.
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When I was 6 I'd play marble madness on my Tandy 1000 and found out that holding down the esc button would after 5 seconds cause the game to start moving in slow motion as it pause/unpaused rapidly. Enabling my poor muscle control to beat the game numerous times.
When I was 10 I found all sorts of excellent bugs in Ultima 7. Moving back and forth a screen length from a farm to slaughter cows and a horse a hundred times to level up to max and save/loading to cheat at gambling in buccaneer's den.
When I was 12 I found many places to jump outside the world of Ultima 8 and cruise around to other places. Sometimes taking shortcuts or finding trippy half-built left-overs from the developers.
All of the old gold-box AD&D games were exploitable by saving a character, then loading him again somehow with a new name into your party to duplicate items. As soon as i found one vorpal blade, my entire team starting decapatating fools.
Also found a fuck-ton of holes in Everquest. I used them to cheat farm exp, but only in off-hours when GMs werent around.
And the absolute best i've ever done was soloing DRAGONS in Everquest as a bard! Thats right, what would normally take a team of 12-20 players and hours of planning took me 15 minutes, fancy footwork, and an awesome exploit.
Never figured out WTF that place underneath the Bowerstone bridge was about either.
Double jump and dodges in UT were lost to me for weeks of initial play, did one by accident one day and escaped was an audible 'Whaaaaooohmygod..."
Spent a flippin lifetime bomb jumping up to that mouth before Kraid earlier than your supposed to.
Also in Ys IV for SNES, the beginning stage seen in the first few minutes of the game on the video below was awesome!
I was about 12 when I played the game, and it was a tough nut for a young kid. But I figured out you could EXP yourself to an ungodly
number by taping the attack button down and then place yourself in a very specific spot in that dungeon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrZtorYjgG4
After a while, I got pissed off because I simply could not kill the thing and gave up on the game. About six months later, after getting a little more RPG experience under my belt, I decide to pick up where I left off. At this time, I discovered a number of things such as being able to repair my gears via the old man in the cavern (I didn't know you could do that originally), deathblows giving the gears special attacks (didn't know about that), and using status effect ether attacks (didn't know about that either). Thus, the one fight that had been trashing me turned out to be pretty easy.
Then I played through the rest of the game and got mad because the point I got stuck at happened before basically everything interesting in the entire game occurred. To this day, the scale of that game still impresses me.
Guys, that's doin' it right.
I didn't figure this out until a few years ago, either. I always had to plug the second controller in so tails could carry sonic past that section.
I dug out the Sonic 3 manual a few minutes ago to see if it mentioned anything about it. It did mention something about Sonic getting stuck in traps that might force you to reset the game (huh?), but there's nothing at all about pressing up and down to manipulate the drums.
The first picture I found with google while looking for information on the spinning drums. Contains appropriate text:
Same here. I don't think I've played a full match of any Smash Bros game ever, ever.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346908
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Also on Final Fantasy 7, I didn't realize that different weapons and armor leveled up materia differently, so when I was leveling up my materia in the last cave, I threw on everyones ultimate weapon(which doesn't level up materia at all) and couldn't figure out why only half my materia was gaining levels. Ugh.
I do have to say, for the uninitiated(i.e. the previous generation) this is a pretty common mistake. My dad went balls out on a full HD setup with surround sound and such when he moved down to florida(yeah, he's that guy.) and when I went down I had to rewire his whole setup since it was all pretty much just barely functional. To be honest, he handles computers pretty well so he isn't stupid, he just doesn't understand.
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Anyway, I found out today that he had been playing all his games at 480p.
It was my first rpg and I had no idea what I was doing and I managed to get all the way to the world of ruin using only the natural magic of terra and celes and every characters starting equipment at that point I realized that I never really opened the menu other than to save or use potions and I accidentally got into the equip screen
It's not really his fault. It's not logical that you'd need any cables other than those packed with the console and all this HDTV stuff can be rather confusing.
That said, why do so many people on GAF have annoying to look at animated avatars?
I get into the zone
Sometimes this zone is resistant to team color change
So I try to heal the pretty crit rocket coming at me.
Also I refuse to play Jedi Outcast without max force powers from start to finish and g_saberrealisticcombat 2 (lets you block and they dont die just from running into your sword but one clean kill is death).
But I also refuse to believe that this is wrong.
I lived on a carrier (USS Independence: CV-62) and we called it a "boat" too. But that was more out of disgust than anything.
I dont know if thats playing it wrong or right, but I kinda wanna do a Lets Play of Kaste the Cowboy Brawler.
Also all my points are in Speechcraft and melee weapons.
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I'm surprised you made it that far just wanging people in the jowls. I had terrible luck punching... then again I was a small arms character.
Oh, I know... When I got Dogmeat, he got in one little fight and I got scared(yeah, like the fresh prince) and I sent him back to 101... I love that furry bastard and I can't stand seeing him burnt up in some force field again.
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As previously mentioned I used to sideswipe and drive backwards in many racing games, but this... this became stuff of legend. I could perform a perfectly executed PIT maneuver and continue driving with minimal speed loss, making me the last person to get picked to play NASCAR, GT 1, 2 or 3 or any other racing game with semi realistic physics.
Also, I was pretty good at Gran Turismo 3 at one point, I would race my friends in a stock Mini Cooper and would give them the Pikes Peak Escudo fully tuned(or any other highly tuned car of their choice) and still end up beating them most of the time. I would have to say that is about as humiliating as it could get in GT racing.
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1. Buy a shiny new game. Sweet!
2. Play for 2-10 hours
3. See demo/preview of a new shiny game. Whoa!
4. Convince self I need this new shiny game (this step takes very little)
5. Repeat process until backlog is insurmountable.
6. Title self "collector."
Hello, I am JamesDM, pleased to meet you brother.
I honestly have called myself a collector for many years now, due to the exact same progression.
ps. I guess I'm kind of bombing this thread but I'm waiting on a phone call and I am a bit antsy.
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I guess I better join this club too. My friend and I found that we can't win races online in Grid so we drive the track backwards or park end to end across the track. I never engage in griefing otherwise but it's just too tempting.
I know lots of people like this and they're annoying as hell.
When I played WoW, I used the default interface most of the time too. I don't understand how someone would be able to only turn using the keyboard. Turning all the way around takes forever if you don't use the mouse.
I feel I need to elaborate here.
SimBen: HEY HAVE YOU PLAYED (SOME GAME) YET? IT'S AWESOME!!
Me: NO BUT I BEAT KILLER7 YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE WHY HAVEN'T YOU YET?? THAT'S RIGHT YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE DO YOU?? STOP PLAYING OTHER GAMES AND BEAT KILLER7.
Likewise, SimBen has been busy playing many other video games instead of finishing the Chrono Trigger LP. Yes, I'm throwing him under the proverbial bus. I don't care. He needs it.
He is the kind of gamer I cannot stand.
I would subscribe to a recovery program of some sort. By not beating games I'm missing a crucial sense of satisfaction associated with the experience. I WANT TO GET BETTER.
hihihihihhihi
*stab stab stab*
more like STUN Stab STUN STUN Stab STUN dead
you don't need stun,he turns slooooooooooooooooooooow
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I vote this for the being the single most commonly overlooked feature in the game.
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I hate it when I loan a game to someone and they don't read the manual.
And then they bug me with "How do I do this? How do I do that? Where do I go?"
RTFM douchebag.
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Stand still so I can hit you with this gigantic sword dammit.