Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
Chris Matthews is excited about this nomination. Probably because he really really likes Pennsylvanians, and people from Scranton especially. So MSNBC is going to become the pundit version of this thread after the Conventions and Maddow has her show.
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The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
CNN on the republican VP: Ultimately the vetting is going to be up to Rush Limbaugh
Yet another thing that should be turned into an ad.
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The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
But we aren't electing their wives!
McCain has plenty of shit in his military history to nail him to the wall for, first off being a reverse ace (which is pretty fucking hard to pull off). We don't need to mistake his rank to make a point, and it just makes us look stupid to do so.
I went on more missions as an E-4 then an E-5. Yet I'm still an E-5 today, last rank I held. You might not get it because you didn't serve, but it's an issue and isn't going to help Obama.
I am tired of running a country where I have no real rules. I am tired of being rich. I would be happy if you would please come over and beat up my army and hurt me and ruin my government.
Sincerely,
President Saddam Hussein
P.S. Please also accuse me of having WMDs and push for my execution ASAP, no matter how long I might hide in the ground.
P.P.S. Can I get the recipe for those ribs you made? Those were damn good.
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Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
Doesn't Cindi run a bunch of charities or something?
Though, she still seems like a douche because of that whole "Well, I've always been proud of my country."
Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
But we aren't electing their wives!
McCain has plenty of shit in his military history to nail him to the wall for, first off being a reverse ace (which is pretty fucking hard to pull off). We don't need to mistake his rank to make a point, and it just makes us look stupid to do so.
I went on more missions as an E-4 then an E-5. Yet I'm still an E-5 today, last rank I held. You might not get it because you didn't serve, but it's an issue and isn't going to help Obama.
Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
But we aren't electing their wives!
McCain has plenty of shit in his military history to nail him to the wall for, first off being a reverse ace (which is pretty fucking hard to pull off). We don't need to mistake his rank to make a point, and it just makes us look stupid to do so.
I went on more missions as an E-4 then an E-5. Yet I'm still an E-5 today, last rank I held. You might not get it because you didn't serve, but it's an issue and isn't going to help Obama.
In ROTC classes, you learn more about diversity training, oral and written communication, and leadership before you ever get to hold a weapon. When McCain says and does all the stupid shit he does, he does not sound like an officer. Shit, I think he hasn't read a book in 20 years.
Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
Doesn't Cindi run a bunch of charities or something?
Though, she still seems like a douche because of that whole "Well, I've always been proud of my country."
Yes she does. Both her and John are not bad people, he's just batshit nuts. Which is what we should be hitting on. There is no reason to run false hits on a person that honestly, isn't a monster.
Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
Doesn't Cindi run a bunch of charities or something?
Though, she still seems like a douche because of that whole "Well, I've always been proud of my country."
Yes she does. Both her and John are not bad people, he's just batshit nuts. Which is what we should be hitting on. There is no reason to run false hits on a person that honestly, isn't a monster.
So attack him for being a bad leader instead of a bad person.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
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God DAMN Joe Bidens speech is NOWHERE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET.
God DAMN Joe Bidens speech is NOWHERE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET.
I mean NOWHERE.
They also aren't playing it on news channels.
What the frickety frack?
It’s only been an hour since he finished. Takes time to process, upload, and distribute.
In that time, CNN has put up and changed the videos of Barack introducting Biden, Biden running around the stage with a smiley glandhand routine, then REMOVING that video of Joe Biden running around, and placing an "analysis" done after the speech with 2 douchebags I don't care to name.
Also, they had to time to edit and post Obama talking about Biden's experience.
So no, I don't buy the whole "give it some time", I think what they're doing is sterilizing and editing it.
Apparently it means you ruin five of your own planes.
Ace is downed 5 planes in Navy slang. McCain crashed 4 and got shot down, reverse ace. There are other fuck ups, but that's a major one.
In ROTC classes, you learn more about diversity training, oral and written communication, and leadership before you ever get to hold a weapon. When McCain says and does all the stupid shit he does, he does not sound like an officer. Shit, I think he hasn't read a book in 20 years.
ROTC and military academy are two different things. Plus the Navy is not like any other service. It breeds aroggance and indepedeance. Because you are always on your own in your little world. At times that's great (see ADM Fallon and his eviscerating of the Bush admin before they fired him) at times it creates maniacs (see McCain), but it's a rather odd beast, even among the armed services and unless you've been in it you can't grasp how it's lead and run.... it's a fucking mess.
That's a poor analysis of the Navy. McCain was just a poor officer, who probably only managed to get through the Academy because his father was an Admiral.
God DAMN Joe Bidens speech is NOWHERE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET.
I mean NOWHERE.
They also aren't playing it on news channels.
What the frickety frack?
It’s only been an hour since he finished. Takes time to process, upload, and distribute.
In that time, CNN has put up and changed the videos of Barack introducting Biden, Biden running around the stage with a smiley glandhand routine, then REMOVING that video of Joe Biden running around, and placing an "analysis" done after the speech with 2 douchebags I don't care to name.
Also, they had to time to edit and post Obama talking about Biden's experience.
So no, I don't buy the whole "give it some time", I think what they're doing is sterilizing and editing it.
Weird. I’m sure it’ll show up somewhere, though; you can’t eliminate footage any more, especially something like that.
Fine, we'll use ranks. Captain John McCain and 14th Level Drug-Abusing Kleptomaniac, Cindy.
Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
But we aren't electing their wives!
McCain has plenty of shit in his military history to nail him to the wall for, first off being a reverse ace (which is pretty fucking hard to pull off). We don't need to mistake his rank to make a point, and it just makes us look stupid to do so.
I went on more missions as an E-4 then an E-5. Yet I'm still an E-5 today, last rank I held. You might not get it because you didn't serve, but it's an issue and isn't going to help Obama.
In ROTC classes, you learn more about diversity training, oral and written communication, and leadership before you ever get to hold a weapon. When McCain says and does all the stupid shit he does, he does not sound like an officer. Shit, I think he hasn't read a book in 20 years.
Did they even do that kind of stuff back when he was trained to be an officer?
Apparently it means you ruin five of your own planes.
Ace is downed 5 planes in Navy slang. McCain crashed 4 and got shot down, reverse ace. There are other fuck ups, but that's a major one.
In ROTC classes, you learn more about diversity training, oral and written communication, and leadership before you ever get to hold a weapon. When McCain says and does all the stupid shit he does, he does not sound like an officer. Shit, I think he hasn't read a book in 20 years.
ROTC and military academy are two different things. Plus the Navy is not like any other service. It breeds aroggance and indepedeance. Because you are always on your own in your little world. At times that's great (see ADM Fallon and his eviscerating of the Bush admin before they fired him) at times it creates maniacs (see McCain), but it's a rather odd beast, even among the armed services and unless you've been in it you can't grasp how it's lead and run.... it's a fucking mess.
I forgot that part.
The Navy. :x
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
Are there people up on the roof, or are they statues?
Eagle-eyed SS people.
snipers!
Nah, the snipers are better hidden.
Yeah, any sniper on a roof top needs to turn in his sniping badge.
They're the decoy snipers.
On the topic of John "Reverse Ace" McCain, I came across this interesting article (from the 2000 election) while trying to find out if "reverse ace" was a real term:
Are there people up on the roof, or are they statues?
Eagle-eyed SS people.
snipers!
Nah, the snipers are better hidden.
Yeah, any sniper on a roof top needs to turn in his sniping badge.
They definitely have visible snipers. I remember helping out at the 75,000 person Portland rally and seeing snipers on rooftops and even on top of the drawbridge I was standing on. I'm sure they have some that are totally hidden but they definitely have dudes sitting under tents on rooftops
Are there people up on the roof, or are they statues?
Eagle-eyed SS people.
snipers!
Nah, the snipers are better hidden.
Yeah, any sniper on a roof top needs to turn in his sniping badge.
They definitely have visible snipers. I remember helping out at the 75,000 person Portland rally and seeing snipers on rooftops and even on top of the drawbridge I was standing on. I'm sure they have some that are totally hidden but they definitely have dudes sitting under tents on rooftops
That's a poor analysis of the Navy. McCain was just a poor officer, who probably only managed to get through the Academy because his father was an Admiral.
You served in the Navy? How many admirals do you know? I think I'm spot on.
From what I've seen, McCain, other then being stupid, has the same look on things and same "shoot first think later" as most of them.
It's a problem with the Navy, which is widely regarded as the smartest, yet most rebelious of the armed forces. It's also prone to think wars only in terms of targets destroyed, and not how you secure the area after since it never has to deal with that. You're there to blow shit up and take people out, after that, leave the clean up to the Army it's not your problem.
This is where McCain thinks, if you can blast the crap out of it, job done move on nothing to see here.
That's why Clark slammed McCain. Naval killing is done from a long range, or when it's person to person combat is SEALs, EOD, which is almost a hit squad, or ship boarding which is extremely bloody. You never have to deal with the aftermath of your actions, the Army does that. On the other hand, an Army officer has to deal with the mess. It's two different views and actions in a war.
McCain's views, aren't that off base for a Naval officer.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
edited August 2008
Hear, hear psychotix.
And I always regarded the Air Force as the smartest.
That's a poor analysis of the Navy. McCain was just a poor officer, who probably only managed to get through the Academy because his father was an Admiral.
You served in the Navy? How many admirals do you know? I think I'm spot on.
From what I've seen, McCain, other then being stupid, has the same look on things and same "shoot first think later" as most of them.
It's a problem with the Navy, which is widely regarded as the smartest, yet most rebelious of the armed forces. It's also prone to think wars only in terms of targets destroyed, and not how you secure the area after since it never has to deal with that. You're there to blow shit up and take people out, after that, leave the clean up to the Army it's not your problem.
This is where McCain thinks, if you can blast the crap out of it, job done move on nothing to see here.
That's why Clark slammed McCain. Naval killing is done from a long range, or when it's person to person combat is SEALs, EOD, which is almost a hit squad, or ship boarding which is extremely bloody. You never have to deal with the aftermath of your actions, the Army does that. On the other hand, an Army officer has to deal with the mess. It's two different views and actions in a war.
McCain's views, aren't that off base for a Naval officer.
Most of the higher ranked navy officers I've met, which yes has been a few seeing my dad retired as an E8, aren't that dumb.
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Let's not savage peoples wives. But let's treat military rank with the proper manner. I didn't like it when the savaged Michelle, and I don't think we should do the same. But McCain is, at the end of the day, a Captain and not an LCDR. There is a massive difference in ranks there, and responsibility.
There's a massive difference between a well-respected lawyer and an idle-heiress-pill-popper-klepto.
Yet another thing that should be turned into an ad.
But we aren't electing their wives!
McCain has plenty of shit in his military history to nail him to the wall for, first off being a reverse ace (which is pretty fucking hard to pull off). We don't need to mistake his rank to make a point, and it just makes us look stupid to do so.
I went on more missions as an E-4 then an E-5. Yet I'm still an E-5 today, last rank I held. You might not get it because you didn't serve, but it's an issue and isn't going to help Obama.
P.S. Please also accuse me of having WMDs and push for my execution ASAP, no matter how long I might hide in the ground.
P.P.S. Can I get the recipe for those ribs you made? Those were damn good.
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Doesn't Cindi run a bunch of charities or something?
Though, she still seems like a douche because of that whole "Well, I've always been proud of my country."
Whats a reverse ace?
In ROTC classes, you learn more about diversity training, oral and written communication, and leadership before you ever get to hold a weapon. When McCain says and does all the stupid shit he does, he does not sound like an officer. Shit, I think he hasn't read a book in 20 years.
Yes she does. Both her and John are not bad people, he's just batshit nuts. Which is what we should be hitting on. There is no reason to run false hits on a person that honestly, isn't a monster.
So attack him for being a bad leader instead of a bad person.
I mean NOWHERE.
They also aren't playing it on news channels.
What the frickety frack?
Give it a few hours.
Yeah I dunno when that's going to happen... but Obama is going to be in Eau Claire tomorrow, apparently.
Picture of Barack in Eau Claire at his last visit:
The old fella with the white beard in back holding a camera up is my dad.
Anyway, that's enough politics. I'm going to a movie.
In that time, CNN has put up and changed the videos of Barack introducting Biden, Biden running around the stage with a smiley glandhand routine, then REMOVING that video of Joe Biden running around, and placing an "analysis" done after the speech with 2 douchebags I don't care to name.
Also, they had to time to edit and post Obama talking about Biden's experience.
So no, I don't buy the whole "give it some time", I think what they're doing is sterilizing and editing it.
Ace is downed 5 planes in Navy slang. McCain crashed 4 and got shot down, reverse ace. There are other fuck ups, but that's a major one.
ROTC and military academy are two different things. Plus the Navy is not like any other service. It breeds aroggance and indepedeance. Because you are always on your own in your little world. At times that's great (see ADM Fallon and his eviscerating of the Bush admin before they fired him) at times it creates maniacs (see McCain), but it's a rather odd beast, even among the armed services and unless you've been in it you can't grasp how it's lead and run.... it's a fucking mess.
Yeah, any sniper on a roof top needs to turn in his sniping badge.
Did they even do that kind of stuff back when he was trained to be an officer?
I forgot that part.
The Navy. :x
Why don't they combine them for added effect?
"Barack HUSSEIN Obama Bin Biden"
On the topic of John "Reverse Ace" McCain, I came across this interesting article (from the 2000 election) while trying to find out if "reverse ace" was a real term:
Will 'Ace' McCain Flame Out Again?
They definitely have visible snipers. I remember helping out at the 75,000 person Portland rally and seeing snipers on rooftops and even on top of the drawbridge I was standing on. I'm sure they have some that are totally hidden but they definitely have dudes sitting under tents on rooftops
"Obama, son of Biden"?
Motherfuckers speak to me, glad to see politicians that can at least make me feel like they give a shit.
You served in the Navy? How many admirals do you know? I think I'm spot on.
From what I've seen, McCain, other then being stupid, has the same look on things and same "shoot first think later" as most of them.
It's a problem with the Navy, which is widely regarded as the smartest, yet most rebelious of the armed forces. It's also prone to think wars only in terms of targets destroyed, and not how you secure the area after since it never has to deal with that. You're there to blow shit up and take people out, after that, leave the clean up to the Army it's not your problem.
This is where McCain thinks, if you can blast the crap out of it, job done move on nothing to see here.
That's why Clark slammed McCain. Naval killing is done from a long range, or when it's person to person combat is SEALs, EOD, which is almost a hit squad, or ship boarding which is extremely bloody. You never have to deal with the aftermath of your actions, the Army does that. On the other hand, an Army officer has to deal with the mess. It's two different views and actions in a war.
McCain's views, aren't that off base for a Naval officer.
And I always regarded the Air Force as the smartest.
You're focusing in on a minority of the Navy, the pilots, and pulling cliches out of your ass. Your analysis is full of shit.
Most of the higher ranked navy officers I've met, which yes has been a few seeing my dad retired as an E8, aren't that dumb.