City of Heroes doesn't even have official RP servers and the unofficial RP server is the most heavily populated.
For one, Unofficial comes to mind, and being it's not labeled anyone starting out could choose it as well as any other server... two, CoH has 1 single server for people who want to RP heroes and villians--a pretty simple task, being there's no real lore or cockney to learn to be able to do it and do it well.
Not to mention alot of people just picked that server, and it just so happens its also the Unofficial RP server... when I started up SWG on launch, I apparently chose the Unofficial French server, so when it started getting late, it was tougher and tougher to know what's going on... but stuck with it anyhow, because its the server I started with.
Do you think Virtue has the highest population just by chance and not because it has the largest population of RPers?
This late in the game, I'm not really thinking that's the case.
It's alright. I'm not heartbroken. I'll roll Order on an Alliance server with my buddies and probably roll up Chaos with the Six Mouths regardless because I'm less interested in orc RP.
But whatever. I'm just accustomed to RP servers at this point and the people who play on them. I generally find them to be far less annoying than the guy named YourMomHur.
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My point still stands that "Hur hur RP realms have no population" is a pretty baseless argument.
Ugh. I just saw someone on another site refer to this as "WaR". I swear the worst thing WoW has ever done is get people to think if a name has three letters in it the middle one is lower casse! It's not "EvE", it's "EVE" (or "Eve" I guess); it's not "WaR" it's "WAR". There's a reason for the letters, sheesh
(Okay this isn't *that* big of a deal but the "EvE" thing always got to me since it's not an acronym it's ya know, a name based on some famous lady I read about somewhere...)
Ok, back to the thirtieth version of "RP vs Core" discussion...
I said they tend to have smaller ones which alot of them do. I don't mind playing on them since I ususally end up on them at some point anyway.
If there are only one or two at launch it won't be such a big deal since the RPers will join em along with the people who think RP means less assholes.
But whatever. I'm just accustomed to RP servers at this point and the people who play on them. I generally find them to be far less annoying than the guy named YourMomHur.
Not only this but Guinevere had more higher realm ranked and higher leveled players. Meaning the people who played on those servers actually stayed with them.
The vote on TSM for Core vs. RP is extremely close. 44 Core, 42 RP as of right this second.
Now that the whole thing with Open seems to be settled (if you saw the leaked 4.1 anyway), do we need to have yet another vote?
I could go either way. Possibly having a slightly more mature environment would be nice. And if nothing else, the folks trying to RP would be prime entertainment .
But whatever. I'm just accustomed to RP servers at this point and the people who play on them. I generally find them to be far less annoying than the guy named YourMomHur.
Pretty much this, I never RP, but I always roll on RP servers just for the chance to have a naming policy enforced.
WoW unfortunately never did enforce any of their RP Rulesets unless its was something offensive enough to merit a warning on a regular PvE server.
I sort of miss that from EverQuest, back in the day there was no need for RP rulesets, because everyone sorta roleplayed by default
It's always just "Stompy" "Candymancer" or various Disney characters
Stompy is quite all right for a Greenskin and probably OK for a Chosen/Marauder, but it really wouldn't fit an Elf.
In DAoC the names had to be obviously bad to get changed. And I think they had to be reported multiple times, by different people, to have a hope of being changed. One person reporting didn't get a name changed.
It's always just "Stompy" "Candymancer" or various Disney characters
Stompy is quite all right for a Greenskin and probably OK for a Chosen/Marauder, but it really wouldn't fit an Elf.
It would probably work pretty well for a Dwarf too really.
Stompy Thoringilson, son of Stampy "the beergut" Thoringilson who died in a drunken tunneling accident.
As long as you aren't going with Narutovagetaxxx or 66legolassephiroth you're pretty safe with silly names in warhammer. Remember, this is the world with Long Drong the dwarven pirate.
I have to wonder why Open servers would be a good choice even if they did fix the whole chicken thing. The PvP areas are pretty much big enough, and if you really wanted to kill members of the other side, it looks like both sides always have different questing areas, so you would have to go way out of your way in order to get to them. So, essentially, you have people off ganking others who are trying to get away from PvP for a bit with some PQ's or normal questing, instead of participating in the overall battlefield objectives like they should be.
...but you do have to remember which channels are in-character and which aren't, or risk getting yapped at by the RP'ers. I can see why many would stay away.
This isn't the case at all. As long as you aren't talking real world politics or sports in /general you are fine. No one enforces RPing in groups or local but it is encouraged. You might be asked to stop talking about your job at Walmart by group members but if it is game related no one cares.
I'm not saying I think this is something that happens, it's what actually happened to me several years ago that turned me off from RP servers. I guess I was just lucky when I rolled on the one DAoC RP server where people had a pickle up their ass about it.
I have to wonder why Open servers would be a good choice even if they did fix the whole chicken thing. The PvP areas are pretty much big enough, and if you really wanted to kill members of the other side, it looks like both sides always have different questing areas, so you would have to go way out of your way in order to get to them. So, essentially, you have people off ganking others who are trying to get away from PvP for a bit with some PQ's or normal questing, instead of participating in the overall battlefield objectives like they should be.
You're mistaken.
Even in Tier 1, the Dwarf and Greenskin questing areas mingle together where you will run across the other faction going about your business.
I'm sick of this assumption that just because people want to PVP anywhere, it means they're looking to grief people. Open PVP is about the thrill and danger of playing the game. It's not about going to piss off the other faction.
Further, there will never be a situation where people need to "get away from the PVP" in an Open server, because people on an Open server should always be ready for PVP. That, or don't roll that server.
Yeah, I can't play on an RP server either because my names never work.
I have a plan for a Chosen named Big Gay Steve. He'll only wear pink armor.
You are the reason I play on RP servers. :x
Conversely he's the reason I occasionally get a random laugh while playing on de-nerded servers.
I mean you're playing a computer video game, SRS BZNS I AM NAME NAZI U R RUIN MY IMMERSION I AM DWARF COME ON PLZ.
Only two kinds of names bug me:
1.) Names that are not only dumb and unoriginal but were also long since taken so the person brutalized it, aka Sefferothz or Xxxhunterxxx.
2.) Names that think they're clever by using an old, played out joke that might have been funny the first time.. 4 years ago. Aka <Your Mom Gave Me Harpies> or <Naga Stole My Bike>.
And it's not like that shit ruins my night, I just know who not to group with.
It seems disingenuous to state you're trying to avoid nerdery while playing an MMO based on a fantasy game about toy soldiers. Conversely, the Warhammer world isn't built to support "immersion" or "serious RP" or anything.
Yeah, I can't play on an RP server either because my names never work.
I have a plan for a Chosen named Big Gay Steve. He'll only wear pink armor.
You are the reason I play on RP servers. :x
Ohahahahah.
Have fun being poor. If I recall, the pinkish red was like a gold per piece? Scab Red, I think...
Honestly, I like the dye system, but do some of them just have to have unreasonable prices?
I don't understand why purple is more expensive than blue by a factor of 2000.
I mean, it might not be that bad later on. I'm sure by rank 40, when we have gear that we'll actually be keeping for reasonable amounts of time, such prices will be negligible. It's just kinda odd.
The paint system harkens back to DAoC. Basically, colors they figure more people will want are more expensive, just so that you have another reward mechanic in place. And another money sink.
Yeah, I can't play on an RP server either because my names never work.
I have a plan for a Chosen named Big Gay Steve. He'll only wear pink armor.
You are the reason I play on RP servers. :x
Why? He's just RPing a slaanesh chosen. :P
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edited September 2008
From what I've been hearing, though I might just be pulling this out of my ass, you'll be able to get non-vendor dyes from Apothecary folks, since those with Apothecary can make dyes (never tried it though). Here's hoping Black is one of those dyes.
Yeah, I can't play on an RP server either because my names never work.
I have a plan for a Chosen named Big Gay Steve. He'll only wear pink armor.
You are the reason I play on RP servers. :x
Ohahahahah.
Have fun being poor. If I recall, the pinkish red was like a gold per piece? Scab Red, I think...
Honestly, I like the dye system, but do some of them just have to have unreasonable prices?
I don't understand why purple is more expensive than blue by a factor of 2000.
I mean, it might not be that bad later on. I'm sure by rank 40, when we have gear that we'll actually be keeping for reasonable amounts of time, such prices will be negligible. It's just kinda odd.
Well, a lot has to do with the fact that the dye colours are based on the actual Games Workshop paint colours. That's why the names are the way they are when you mouse over each colour. The more traditional colours are more expensive.. because they're supposed to be rare.
Using your purple vs blue example.. purple has always been a colour of royalty and nobility.. so it's going to be more expensive.
If anything, I think they should INCREASE the price of dyes.
Also, someone on WHA took a shit on the NDA and said that combat responsiveness is now 100% fixed. He said pet pathing is marginally better.
From what I've been hearing, though I might just be pulling this out of my ass, you'll be able to get non-vendor dyes from Apothecary folks, since those with Apothecary can make dyes (never tried it though). Here's hoping Black is one of those dyes.
I never got a dye component while playing... but apparently they're there. I had a few dye "pots" to make them in.. just no pigment components.
From what I've been hearing, though I might just be pulling this out of my ass, you'll be able to get non-vendor dyes from Apothecary folks, since those with Apothecary can make dyes (never tried it though). Here's hoping Black is one of those dyes.
I never got a dye component while playing... but apparently they're there. I had a few dye "pots" to make them in.. just no pigment components.
I think the Guild Vendor sells them. Or at least I thought I saw dye components the last time I bought off him. And I'd imagine Scavenging will eventually give some components too.
Dyes do seem awfully expensive considering how vital they are to making your character look unique. Although I guess they might not be quite as necessary for that purpose in the retail game with trophies actually working and people having time to do plenty of other things that will give them gear rather than everyone running about as RvR set clones like in beta.
Yeah, I can't play on an RP server either because my names never work.
I have a plan for a Chosen named Big Gay Steve. He'll only wear pink armor.
I think you just managed to make me change my vote to RP. If they will police names I'm down with that. I always get uncomfortable when someone RPs at me and I don't have anything to say back but I can learn and it is a small price to pay not to have to see pwnsyou in a scenario.
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Dyes do seem awfully expensive considering how vital they are to making your character look unique. Although I guess they might not be quite as necessary for that purpose in the retail game with trophies actually working and people having time to do plenty of other things that will give them gear rather than everyone running about as RvR set clones like in beta.
Before 40 yea. By the endgame though, you get gold left and right and it's a fairly good gold sink.
It seems disingenuous to state you're trying to avoid nerdery while playing an MMO based on a fantasy game about toy soldiers. Conversely, the Warhammer world isn't built to support "immersion" or "serious RP" or anything.
Of course there's a baseline level of nerd involved with most everything. Sitting in front of the computer for hours on end, playing video games, etc.. It's all about where anyone's personal line is drawn. For me it's pretending that I am the personality of the graphical representation of a pile of numbers in a database.
Or that "Big Gay [name]" is funny, while <Your Mom Gave Me Harpies> is an old played-out joke.
And that was a general notion that I find people who don't take the game seriously more entertaining than those that do. "Big Gay Steve" probably wouldn't make me laugh but seeing a big burly chosen in pink running around would get a :^: from me.
It's the same premise that I play gnomes for. Most people run around trying to be their super cool looking character, "dude check me out I'm huge and burly and my armor is so scary errrrg" while I play a 3 foot tall goofy looking jackass because it's a funny contrast.
The only thing worth taking seriously about games is the fact you're investing time (aka don't suck). Everything else is a joke so why would I want to play with some tightass who spends his free time sitting in cities with his finger hovering over his /report macro praying to be offended.
To each their own, I don't care if you want to pretend you're an orc. But it gets tiresome hearing the rp nerds here talk about how horrible regular servers are when hearing some guy talk about how the Yankees suck is waaaaaaaay more tolerable for most people than listening to you use fake stunted english.
You'll do well with Warhammer, FightTest. GW has always had the same attitude, alongside a metalhead's healthy respect for ridiculous amounts of skulls and blood. There's a reason the world includes things like the term "Fighting Cocks" and Harry the Hammer.
I'm not sure what RP elitist types (which I truly don't think we've seen here, at all) will do. Warhammer isn't for them.
But, an RP server would give tools to report dumb, played out memes.
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Do you think Virtue has the highest population just by chance and not because it has the largest population of RPers?
This late in the game, I'm not really thinking that's the case.
It's alright. I'm not heartbroken. I'll roll Order on an Alliance server with my buddies and probably roll up Chaos with the Six Mouths regardless because I'm less interested in orc RP.
I see Freedom at two or three dots far more often than I do Virtue.
But whatever. I'm just accustomed to RP servers at this point and the people who play on them. I generally find them to be far less annoying than the guy named YourMomHur.
(Okay this isn't *that* big of a deal but the "EvE" thing always got to me since it's not an acronym it's ya know, a name based on some famous lady I read about somewhere...)
Ok, back to the thirtieth version of "RP vs Core" discussion...
If there are only one or two at launch it won't be such a big deal since the RPers will join em along with the people who think RP means less assholes.
Not only this but Guinevere had more higher realm ranked and higher leveled players. Meaning the people who played on those servers actually stayed with them.
Now that the whole thing with Open seems to be settled (if you saw the leaked 4.1 anyway), do we need to have yet another vote?
I could go either way. Possibly having a slightly more mature environment would be nice. And if nothing else, the folks trying to RP would be prime entertainment
Pretty much this, I never RP, but I always roll on RP servers just for the chance to have a naming policy enforced.
WoW unfortunately never did enforce any of their RP Rulesets unless its was something offensive enough to merit a warning on a regular PvE server.
I sort of miss that from EverQuest, back in the day there was no need for RP rulesets, because everyone sorta roleplayed by default
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It's always just "Stompy" "Candymancer" or various Disney characters
Stompy is quite all right for a Greenskin and probably OK for a Chosen/Marauder, but it really wouldn't fit an Elf.
In DAoC the names had to be obviously bad to get changed. And I think they had to be reported multiple times, by different people, to have a hope of being changed. One person reporting didn't get a name changed.
I have a plan for a Chosen named Big Gay Steve. He'll only wear pink armor.
Stompy Thoringilson, son of Stampy "the beergut" Thoringilson who died in a drunken tunneling accident.
As long as you aren't going with Narutovagetaxxx or 66legolassephiroth you're pretty safe with silly names in warhammer. Remember, this is the world with Long Drong the dwarven pirate.
You are the reason I play on RP servers. :x
You're mistaken.
Even in Tier 1, the Dwarf and Greenskin questing areas mingle together where you will run across the other faction going about your business.
I'm sick of this assumption that just because people want to PVP anywhere, it means they're looking to grief people. Open PVP is about the thrill and danger of playing the game. It's not about going to piss off the other faction.
Further, there will never be a situation where people need to "get away from the PVP" in an Open server, because people on an Open server should always be ready for PVP. That, or don't roll that server.
Conversely he's the reason I occasionally get a random laugh while playing on de-nerded servers.
I mean you're playing a computer video game, SRS BZNS I AM NAME NAZI U R RUIN MY IMMERSION I AM DWARF COME ON PLZ.
Only two kinds of names bug me:
1.) Names that are not only dumb and unoriginal but were also long since taken so the person brutalized it, aka Sefferothz or Xxxhunterxxx.
2.) Names that think they're clever by using an old, played out joke that might have been funny the first time.. 4 years ago. Aka <Your Mom Gave Me Harpies> or <Naga Stole My Bike>.
And it's not like that shit ruins my night, I just know who not to group with.
Listen, man. Warhammer isn't nerdy. That shit be taking some real dedication and craftsmanship. Real men play miniatures war-representations!
... Let's face it. I still play with dolls. But dolls with swords!
Ohahahahah.
Have fun being poor. If I recall, the pinkish red was like a gold per piece? Scab Red, I think...
Honestly, I like the dye system, but do some of them just have to have unreasonable prices?
I don't understand why purple is more expensive than blue by a factor of 2000.
I mean, it might not be that bad later on. I'm sure by rank 40, when we have gear that we'll actually be keeping for reasonable amounts of time, such prices will be negligible. It's just kinda odd.
Why? He's just RPing a slaanesh chosen. :P
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Well, a lot has to do with the fact that the dye colours are based on the actual Games Workshop paint colours. That's why the names are the way they are when you mouse over each colour. The more traditional colours are more expensive.. because they're supposed to be rare.
Using your purple vs blue example.. purple has always been a colour of royalty and nobility.. so it's going to be more expensive.
If anything, I think they should INCREASE the price of dyes.
Also, someone on WHA took a shit on the NDA and said that combat responsiveness is now 100% fixed. He said pet pathing is marginally better.
I never got a dye component while playing... but apparently they're there. I had a few dye "pots" to make them in.. just no pigment components.
I think the Guild Vendor sells them. Or at least I thought I saw dye components the last time I bought off him. And I'd imagine Scavenging will eventually give some components too.
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I think you just managed to make me change my vote to RP. If they will police names I'm down with that. I always get uncomfortable when someone RPs at me and I don't have anything to say back but I can learn and it is a small price to pay not to have to see pwnsyou in a scenario.
Before 40 yea. By the endgame though, you get gold left and right and it's a fairly good gold sink.
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Of course there's a baseline level of nerd involved with most everything. Sitting in front of the computer for hours on end, playing video games, etc.. It's all about where anyone's personal line is drawn. For me it's pretending that I am the personality of the graphical representation of a pile of numbers in a database.
And that was a general notion that I find people who don't take the game seriously more entertaining than those that do. "Big Gay Steve" probably wouldn't make me laugh but seeing a big burly chosen in pink running around would get a :^: from me.
It's the same premise that I play gnomes for. Most people run around trying to be their super cool looking character, "dude check me out I'm huge and burly and my armor is so scary errrrg" while I play a 3 foot tall goofy looking jackass because it's a funny contrast.
The only thing worth taking seriously about games is the fact you're investing time (aka don't suck). Everything else is a joke so why would I want to play with some tightass who spends his free time sitting in cities with his finger hovering over his /report macro praying to be offended.
To each their own, I don't care if you want to pretend you're an orc. But it gets tiresome hearing the rp nerds here talk about how horrible regular servers are when hearing some guy talk about how the Yankees suck is waaaaaaaay more tolerable for most people than listening to you use fake stunted english.
I'm not sure what RP elitist types (which I truly don't think we've seen here, at all) will do. Warhammer isn't for them.
But, an RP server would give tools to report dumb, played out memes.