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LackadaisicalLackadaisical Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
In the last three years I’ve been treated for (and am still undergoing treatment for thyroid cancer.) I’ve gone on three dates with a girl I really liked, but she stopped picking-up after the third date just before a cancer related surgery, and one date with yet another girl I really liked—she stopped picking up after that.

I’ve become a borderline alcoholic, hell, who am I kidding? I am an alcoholic. I think about it all of the time, drink it when I can afford it, and it does get in the way of both my hobbies, and sometimes even my family.

I’m twenty-one years old and going off to a wonderful college, but I have yet to meet my roommates and in preparation I moved in with some friends (to get used to the not being at home thing.) In the course of this I’ve gained ~fifteen pounds which puts me at a total of ~330 (I’m only 6”2’ [is this right? I forget if the quotations go after the feet or the inches…fuck.]) I know I should exercise, I know about it so well that I think about doing it constantly. Hence the problem, I think I should, you know, tomorrow.

I’m insanely depressed all of the time and my inadequacies prevent me from admitting it to people when they ask the seemingly common question of, “What’s Wrong?” I’m incredibly lonely, a general fuck-up, and have often thought of, and wished, of dying (not healthy, I know.) Although I've thought about suicide I've elected on general principle that it would be wrong to take my own life, as it would just be one large fucking cliche. (On a side-not, how do you do the e with the little mark above it for cliche?)

TLDR: Lonely, depressed, alcoholic, virgin, general pussy seeks help from random forum strangers.

PS: Still addicted to WoW. Was a losing battle for me, and I think it will be until the end of time, or a greater distraction (hopefully Diablo 3) comes along.

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  • skyybahamutskyybahamut Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dude, you sound like me a few years ago. I was suicidal for nearly a year. I went to therapy to get the help I needed. Go do it. If you put forth the effort, you can improve yourself. That also includes exercise. Lay off the booze, you'll need the money for student loans. (God do I hate those):P As for the accent mark above the "e", In MS Word it's Ctrl+' then press "e", for the internet, I would like to know too.

    As for the virginity thing...that will work itself out.

    I like WoW too, don't beat yourself up over it. Can't wait for D3 either.

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  • TopiaTopia Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I am not gonna start on pushing you to do things if you don't want to. About your depression and suicide, though? Even though you have elected that it's wrong, I still think you should go talk to a therapist, or whatever suicidal patients go to. Don't take those thoughts lightly. I don't know you, but I don't want you to think like that. I have had to go through suicides, it's not cool. Plus while there you can just vent. About everything. Sometimes a good venting with someone who actually listens (maybe not care, but they listen) can help, at least as a starting point.

    Edit: sorry, virginity? Respect it dude. Really. Don't let society pressure you into it it. I let myself get pushed into it at a younger age, and I do regret it sometimes.

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  • CryogenCryogen Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The alcoholism is something you should deal with seperately. It probably impacts on your feelings of depression, but it is its own distinct problem as well. Seek help on this from a medical professional, an AA group, something.

    Aside from that, exercise. You already know its a good idea, and it IS hard to start, but this is something that is critical. Many of your issues are tied to your own sense of self-worth, which in turn is tied to how you view your appearance. Start that exercising, FORCE yourself to do it, not later, but today. Right now. Start reading the Fitness thread, theres plenty of exercises big guys like yourself can start doing that dont need any equipment at all. Theres also plenty of diet advice in there. Accept that you will have to make some BIG changes in your life. Trust me, you will look better fairly quickly, but you will FEEL better very quickly. A better life is not something that just happens to you, it takes concentrated effort, and you need to start straight away.

    As for suicide? Think of it as the last, and biggest, mistake you could ever make with your life. One which you never get a chance to fix or redeem.

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sex isn't all it's cracked up to be, especially if it isn't with someone you care about.

    Other things can be more fulfilling and I encourage you to explore your options and the world around you - hobbies and the like.

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  • TrueHereticXTrueHereticX We are the future Charles, not them. They no longer matter. Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I can weigh in on the virginity thing.

    I was pressured into it by a girl who I will unabashedly call absolutely batshit insane. I was extremely drunk (yay for underage drinking) and couldn't really say no even if I wasn't (because I used to be a pushover and was taken advantage of in many ways daily). No protection was used (I was drunk and had no idea what was going on. She, as I have said, is batshit crazy)

    Guess what the result was?

    She got pregnant, and sprung this news on me pretty much a month before she decided something very insane which I will not reveal the details of.

    She lost the baby, and I was lumped with an absolutely horrifying first experience, as well as a very unhealthy case of guilt that I couldn't do anything.

    Virginity is a delicate thing, and you shouldn't lose it until you're ready.

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  • muninnmuninn Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I would seriously look into your alcohol problem before setting out to college, as the college environment is not terribly friendly to alcoholics. In some instances it is drunken revelry taken to the max, and if you have a pre-existing condition, you could seriously get hurt.
    I wouldnt sweat the virgin stuff, and the weight problem. Both of them are not permanent afflictions. Your school probably has a nicely equipped gym, and college environment is ideal for meeting new and interesting people. And a combination of both of these things can a lot of times yield a romantic rendezvous.

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    SkyGheNel wrote:
    Sex isn't all it's cracked up to be, especially if it isn't with someone you care about.
    This, so hard. I know that it seems like it's something hugely important and that you need to be able to say you lost your virginity. But trust me, nothing changes after you've had sex. You'll be the same person. Any problems you had before will still be there. And unless it's with someone that you really care about, you'll probably regret it.

    Don't beat yourself up over playing WoW. I played WoW for 2-3 years, during which time I had almost 200 days /played (I spent about eight months pretty much playing WoW and nothing else). Then I quit because of relationship stuff, and haven't looked back since. I don't regret the time I spent playing it. I enjoyed it, I was happy. If you enjoy it, you don't need to feel guilty about it. Hell, if you're like me, it's probably saving you money because you don't need to buy new games every other week. Just try not to let it get in the way of college.

    And I strongly recommend counseling. Being depressed sucks and isn't something you can always just shrug off. Talking to someone that knows how that stuff works helps. They may be able to help you with your drinking too, or if need be, refer you to an alcoholic support group.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    talk therapy plus medicine is the best way to deal with depression.

    i know the sex thing sucks. hormones and all... but suck it up. when you get out of college you'll be sitting pretty with a nice job and a nice car. girls like guys that have their shit together. if yer lucky you'll have a woman sometime in college. it's bound to happen if you just put yourself out there.

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  • bloodrbloodr Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Wanna solve your virgin thing? Find an older woman. It worked for me and it can work for you. Oh and craigslist, craigslist, craigslist. I've found so much pussy from craigslist, and I am no looker. Craigslist is your friend. And the best thing is that it's anonymous so you can post your kinky fetishes and someone will answer. You can even use your virginity as a selling point.

    And yes, I am 100 percent serious.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    bloodr wrote: »
    Wanna solve your virgin thing? Find an older woman. It worked for me and it can work for you. Oh and craigslist, craigslist, craigslist. I've found so much pussy from craigslist, and I am no looker. Craigslist is your friend. And the best thing is that it's anonymous so you can post your kinky fetishes and someone will answer. You can even use your virginity as a selling point.

    And yes, I am 100 percent serious.

    Sounds like we have a volunteer mentor here:P

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    I was horribly addicted to WoW for a short time. A couple things broke that addiction.

    I made the decision to quit cold turkey. This is something you have to do. You have to want to get better in any addiction case. So my solution was to sell my account. I had a very powerful character at the time that I spent a lot of effort on. And losing that, through any means, would completely deter me from ever wanting to go back to the game. Now my account wound up getting stolen when I tried to sell it but it was the best thing to ever happen. The only time I think about WoW now is when there's news on a gaming site. You could also do things in game to get yourself perma banned, that's another way of getting rid of the game.

    Also, someone mentioned exercise in this thread. I can't tell you how good exercise is. I personally hate gyms and repetative exercise. What do I do? Bike ride. Everywhere that's reasonable. I need to go the store up town? Get the back pack and get on the bike. It's great exercise, it's stress relieving and it's cheap. By not driving, I've saved so much money in gas and lost 20 lbs this summer alone riding 2-3 times a week. I've also discovered a lot of random trails in my area that are great explorations of the neighborhood. I know that part doesn't really work if you live in an urban area, but off roading is a great challenge. Keeping the bike steady, avoiding rocks that'll wipe you out and it's just more difficult than street biking (plus, no lycra necessary, I shudder at the thought).

    TLDR: Quit WoW cold turkey and start exercising. You'll feel a lot better about yourself.

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Therapy. Therapy. Therapy. If you can't afford it on your own, go to your college's student health center, or check with your county health department. If you have an even okay relationship with your parents, ask them for help. If you're feeling suicidal, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ACT ON IT, you really, really, REALLY need to see a therapist, and probably a psychiatrist as well. Once you start getting a handle on your depression, the rest of it is going to be a lot more manageable.

    Really, asking for help is going to be tough for you, but once you get that part down, I think you'll do better in general. You're going through cancer, for christsakes; you shouldn't be doing this alone.

    Two addictions at once are notoriously hard to battle. If I were you, I'd work on quitting drinking, since that one will directly improve your health. Taking a guess, I'd say you're seeking out an escape from your depression and your other, more concrete problems, but alcohol and obsessive gaming only get you away from things temporarily. Seek out an AA group and, again, see a therapist.

    It sounds like you have a tough road towards getting better, but if you want to turn your life around, you absolutely can do it. I know it seems like a big knot of problems right now, but start untangling them steadily and it'll get easier and easier.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    it's 6' 2" by the way. quitting wow is probably easier than most games that are free. you just cancel your account, and bingo. it's not a real addiction, it's more of a crazy habit, as there are no chemicals involved. i just got bored of it. couldn't say that for real addictions.

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the cheat wrote: »
    it's 6' 2" by the way. quitting wow is probably easier than most games that are free. you just cancel your account, and bingo. it's not a real addiction, it's more of a crazy habit, as there are no chemicals involved. i just got bored of it. couldn't say that for real addictions.

    You can develop a mental dependency for it. It works on the same areas of the brain that gambling or shopping does. When you buy an item, you feel good. When you order an item and find the package waiting on your step, you feel good. When you win at a slot machine, you feel really good.

    When you find a stone of jordan in diablo 2...oh you better bet you feel good.

    There's also the feeling of not being alone because you're surrounded by many others doing the same thing.

    It's just a mental addiction to the feel good sensation provided by the experience. That is really diminished once you leave the game though and realize how much time you've spent with it.

    I have a mental addiction to diet coke and some games, but my method of dealing with it is - out of sight, out of mind. If you don't have it in your house, you won't use it, and will ultimately be more productive because of your decision.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    you can easily get chemically dependant on caffeine.

    a video game addiction is nowhere near the same as a chemical addiction. but, i guess if you can call gambling an addiction, you can call this that too.

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  • SlainbylichSlainbylich Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My advice is to take the advice that is being given to you in this thread. If you don't act soon, you could end up like me; alone, about to graduate, and zero chance at a future.

    Your problems can be overcome, but you have to take the shot.

    First, go see a therapist or counselor. You're going to college, and most colleges have free services available for such things, check into them.

    Second: about the weight issue. Get on a regular exercise program, if it's 2-3 times a week it will see you through. I'd say focus more on cardio and light weight exercises in the beginning, as your endurance for the exercises increases, your endurance for other things will as well.

    I will add this; you have actually been on dates with people. I will be turning 24 soon, and my experience in that direction is absolutely 0. So when it comes to that, you actually have a leg up on me.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Exercise. Not only will it do wonders for your health physically, but it'll improve your mental status as well. There's no better feeling in the world than the one you get after a good workout.

    I know that it may seem like a lot of weight to lose, but it can be done. There's been a couple of threads about weight here in PA and I'm always surprised by how many people share their stories of losing weight.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've been in and out of depressions for as long as I can remember, I think that what helped the most for me during the last and easily worst one -- and mind you everybody is different but this could help, is I wrote down a list on a piece of paper of things I wanted to accomplish. Now this list had some ridiculous things on it, things I will probably never accomplish, but it also had some fairly mundane, easy to achieve things as well. For instance, beating the COH AI on expert. It was actually really cool to be able to mark that off the list, and I just went on from there.

    As to the weight thing, you might try buying a bathroom scale and logging your weight daily as well as a general summary of what you ate that day. Some people, especially gamers, get addicted to logging and categorizing stats, so it can start to be kind of fun if you're realistic about it. Also find out the calorie count in some of the foods you eat most of, and most importantly cut soda straight out of your diet. (Go to the workout thread for all sorts of help in this dept.)

    Oh yeah...and therapy for sure. Having a non judgemental person listen to your problems can help wonders.

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  • pogo mudderpogo mudder Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    there are no losing battles in WoW, you lost when you handed over the cash at GAME

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  • SideshowxelaSideshowxela Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Try picking up another hobby to replace WoW. You'll think about a good book when you're away from it just like you do with WoW, but it's easier to tear yourself away from and it's a lot more socially acceptable and intellectually rewarding. Get thee to a library, or a used book store and check out Shogun. Book owns, and it's long enough and deep enough to possibly make you want to do that more than play long enough for your WoW urges to die off. Oh, and sell that account. You could quit, but quitting and getting paid hundreds of dollars for it is so much more awesome.

    For me, I recognized the social aspect of WoW to be a big draw. How much time do you actually spend doing things compared to how much time you spend talking to your guild on vent while doing circles 'round Shattrath? If that's the case, then just surrounding yourself with your real life friends rather than your guildies should help.

    I'm not huge on exercise either, but if you wanted you could double your time by reading a book on an exercise bike at the gym. Personally, I took up rollerblading a few days a week and generally eating healthier without going too much out of my way. Switching from light butter popcorn to healthy pop saves more calories than you'd think for not too much of a knock to the taste. Fat free milk, having an apple and cheese stick instead of cookies or chips, eating a healthier breakfast cereal are all pretty easy changes to make that'll probably save you upwards of a thousand calories over the course of a week. Oh, and a home made meat and cheese sandwich instead of fast food for lunch is cheap, easy, and good for you.

    As for suicide? Vash the Stampede disapproves of it more than anything, so that should tell you flat out that it isn't a good solution. Neither is drinking. Shit's expensive and very high in the carb/calorie department, but I think you're going to need more than just the help of a fellow forumer to break you of that chemical dependency.

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