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Company of Heroes [GAME ON SOLDIER!]

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    It all depends on the building. Some are easier to 'splode than others. I wouldn't build mortars just to attack MGs, and they're pretty much all but useless against snipers once they leave the building an re-cloak, but with a rifle squad spotting in the right spot you could at the very least force a retreat in your favor.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Mortars are something people tend to forget about mid to late-game, when you've got the battle lines drawn. Again, some maps are better for them than others. Maps like Vire River or Lyon, with bridges and obvious choke points, are excellent for mortars, as the first person with a mortar can harrass the enemy pretty effectively. Of course, they're a unit that goes down in 2 sniper shots, so you really need to keep them on the move, or they'll get taken out eventually.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I <3 this game so much. Also, Walking Stukas. Best thing ever, or greatest thing ever?

    I feel bad for the allies, they could really use more artillery like that.

    Blasting with a stuka, nebelwerfer, then charging stormtroopers in to throw a hail of grenades onto infantry destroys them.

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Okay, so, pretty much entirely given up on this, due to a sudden and deadly case of being completely terrible. I've followed all the advice, read up on all the strategies I can, but after at least a dozen skirmish games vs the AI I'm still getting trounced. Been going solely allied infantry just to practice the basics, but I just don't have the planning skills or reactions to be any good.

    I send out an engineer squad to build the barracks, couple more built at the HQ, everyone goes out to capture fuel/munition points and then the points linking them to base. After that... everything goes to hell. I've got riflemen getting shot to bits by MGs or snipers I didn't see, a half-dozen engineer squads just sitting around the points they've taken, my own MG squads just disappearing because I was focusing elsewhere and when I come back, they've been grenaded or something, then suddenly there's tanks rolling into my base and it's gg.

    tl;dr I appreciate that the game is the best example of the genre, but I'm crap at it. Open to persuasion otherwise, maybe games vs the AI are completely different than playing a real opponent, but I'd probably suck at those too. :|
    /attention seeking

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    If you're still up for playing later today, like after 6pm EST I'd be up for some 2v2 against the computer.

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I think that's about... 10am for me, so I'll be in class, sorry. Maybe over the weekend or something.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm up for a game tonight around 10pm EST (After Lost) if anyone is interested.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I should be around tonight.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Actually my wife has decided to watch Lost tomorrow (since it's two hours and would go to 11pm).

    So I could probably start around 9pm, or at least start to get a game organized around then.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Okay, so, pretty much entirely given up on this, due to a sudden and deadly case of being completely terrible. I've followed all the advice, read up on all the strategies I can, but after at least a dozen skirmish games vs the AI I'm still getting trounced. Been going solely allied infantry just to practice the basics, but I just don't have the planning skills or reactions to be any good.

    I send out an engineer squad to build the barracks, couple more built at the HQ, everyone goes out to capture fuel/munition points and then the points linking them to base. After that... everything goes to hell. I've got riflemen getting shot to bits by MGs or snipers I didn't see, a half-dozen engineer squads just sitting around the points they've taken, my own MG squads just disappearing because I was focusing elsewhere and when I come back, they've been grenaded or something, then suddenly there's tanks rolling into my base and it's gg.

    tl;dr I appreciate that the game is the best example of the genre, but I'm crap at it. Open to persuasion otherwise, maybe games vs the AI are completely different than playing a real opponent, but I'd probably suck at those too. :|
    /attention seeking

    You will be crushed if you play online, most probably. People are usually better than the AI (except at multitasking). Practicing is the best way to learn, though. Check out the Relic forums, there's a lot of bitch about balance but there's also a number of good suggestions (especially in regards to taking advantage of units that are better than they should be ;) ).

    Nothing teaches you better than losing, I find, except maybe a good replay.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    As allies, I'm actually stuck with a lot more fuel than I need, and much less manpower than I need. Anything good to spend that fuel on besides BARs and Crocs? If I keep up with using all my fuel, I would only build tanks when I would need to be reinforcing my infantry or AT guns.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    http://tales.tsncentral.com/category/toh/toh-video/

    There are some good reviews of replays that are set up specifically for the site, and ones that have been floating around the web. They pick up alot on what people do wrong, and more importantly what they do right.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    As allies, I'm actually stuck with a lot more fuel than I need, and much less manpower than I need. Anything good to spend that fuel on besides BARs and Crocs? If I keep up with using all my fuel, I would only build tanks when I would need to be reinforcing my infantry or AT guns.

    Definitely get all the upgrades for Rifles, the grenades and the stickies. I find that manpower is my biggest problem as well - consider grabbing the upgrades from the supply yard to reduce manpower upkeep, I think they cost fuel as well.

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    As allies, I'm actually stuck with a lot more fuel than I need, and much less manpower than I need. Anything good to spend that fuel on besides BARs and Crocs? If I keep up with using all my fuel, I would only build tanks when I would need to be reinforcing my infantry or AT guns.

    More tanks..

    Upgun upgrade for shermans

    BAR's

    Nades

    Stickies

    If you're going heavy riflespam a halftrack w/ Quad 50 upgrade is always a good investment.(reinforcing on the move ftw)

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I agree with the halftrack. I always forget it, but it can make a huge difference especially when there's lots of infantry in the field.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I love halftracks. Garrison them with an Engineer/Pioneer, and they can be a very effective anti-infantry weapon that can repair itself and capture points. And of course, they eventually become very effective anti-infantry, on both sides.

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  • skylinerskyliner Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I just patched and starting playing this game again last night. Wow, was the Axis Sniper always that powerful. Maybe I was just having better luck than with the Allied sniper, but on the broken train map the sniper held the entire center.

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    School and extreme sleeping done for the week, so if anyone wants to beat me at this, I'm around.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    strategery wrote: »
    VeritasVR wrote: »
    As allies, I'm actually stuck with a lot more fuel than I need, and much less manpower than I need. Anything good to spend that fuel on besides BARs and Crocs? If I keep up with using all my fuel, I would only build tanks when I would need to be reinforcing my infantry or AT guns.

    More tanks..

    Upgun upgrade for shermans

    BAR's

    Nades

    Stickies

    If you're going heavy riflespam a halftrack w/ Quad 50 upgrade is always a good investment.(reinforcing on the move ftw)

    Yeah I do all that. Actually, I think my biggest problem is dumping manpower into the weapon support center. That eats up a lot because I usually want an MG and sniper patrolling the front. I feel like an MG is just too good, but with rifles + BARs, are they vital? I usually have a quad halftrack running around and reinforcing the squads as well and AT guns are costly but don't use up fuel.

    I also question the WSC because I go airborne and the supply drop gives a free MG and mortar, which I can give to an entire riflesquad (and maybe even reinforce the squad for cheap at the front with a halftrack). So with all those options, after the supply drop upgrade, the WSC is obsolete except for snipers. However, I find that snipers are insanely effective at removing AT guns.

    What do you think?

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So. This is a [GAME ON].


    There are no Hamachi details.


    This must be fixed.

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  • JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Couldn't we just make private games on relic's service?

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    But that involves more work.

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  • JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Not if you don't have a hamachi channel.

    Anyway. I'll start playing multi tomorrow I want to get through more SP campaigns.

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Guys. I'm in Vent.



    Why are you not showing up?

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    No mic. :( Plus I hate freedoms.

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I might start playing this again if there's actually some people playing it. Maybe tomorrow.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    You should! Actually, if anyone can get a Hamachi network up and running, it would be nifty. My roomates are playing on my copy, and I'd love to try a team game online with them, instead of a random Relic Online person.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    You should! Actually, if anyone can get a Hamachi network up and running, it would be nifty. My roomates are playing on my copy, and I'd love to try a team game online with them, instead of a random Relic Online person.

    Yes! Hamachi is so easy to learn, even a Volksgrenadier can use it.

    Oh shi-

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  • DeadOnArrivalDeadOnArrival Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm up for some games.

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    As am I! Though they can hardly be classified games. But I'm learning, slowly.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    It's so pretty, I don't mind losing all the time.

    I'd be up for a game later on tonight (9:30pm - 10pm EST start).

    What is Hamachi?

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Program for making/joining LANs over the internet, from what I understand.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The latest version of Hamachi is unable to see CoH games from what I've seen, so downgrade to 1.0.1.5. After that, it's just a matter of making a username/password, and joining a network. Then you're connected!

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So... what the shit do you do about tigers? I was allied infantry, and doing fine vs the AI until two of them showed up and murdered everything. Like, just one of them ripped through two shermans and three ranger squads.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So... what the shit do you do about tigers? I was allied infantry, and doing fine vs the AI until two of them showed up and murdered everything. Like, just one of them ripped through two shermans and three ranger squads.

    Anti-tank guns, upgraded Shermans and excellent micro with the tanks. M10s are faster, but have less armor and don't help against infantry. With the rangers there you could ditch one Sherman and run circles around their turrets with an M10.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So... what the shit do you do about tigers? I was allied infantry, and doing fine vs the AI until two of them showed up and murdered everything. Like, just one of them ripped through two shermans and three ranger squads.

    What you should have done in this situation was micro the tanks to flank the Tiger from opposite sides so it can't put its frontal armour against both, and then Fire Up the rangers and keep moving them to the rear of the Tiger so they get maximum damage. You'll probably lose one of the Shermans, but you'll take that Tiger out.

    Two tigers, much tougher. You'd need AT guns and preferably some Rifles with sticky bombs. Frankly as Infantry in that situation, I'd sticky the tigers to cripple them, then just drop artillery on them while moving my forces back, then clean up afterwards.

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  • LeumasWhiteLeumasWhite New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I did the flanking thing, but it just totalled one before turning around and crushing the other. Got to about half health while the other one was rampaging somewhere else. Got it with a couple of stickies from a rifleman squad, but I didn't have the munitions for artillery after upgrading to AT guns. The rangers did a total of jack, even the rear armour hits were doing negligible damage.

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Does the computer get more resources than us in Skirmish, or something? Seriously, they match my infantry and get tanks long before I do.
    M10s are retarded, btw. If they had good pathing and followed my instructions that would be great but nooooo. I try to get them to flank but they just kind of spaz out when first attempting to turn around. Then once they get behind and I tell them to attack they rush up, sticking their barrel in the enemy tanks ass.
    As much as I love this game I think I have to stop playing the Victory Point mode. Whoever grabs two points first and sets up defense almost inevitably wins and that just isn't much fun. I love the concept, though.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I did the flanking thing, but it just totalled one before turning around and crushing the other. Got to about half health while the other one was rampaging somewhere else. Got it with a couple of stickies from a rifleman squad, but I didn't have the munitions for artillery after upgrading to AT guns. The rangers did a total of jack, even the rear armour hits were doing negligible damage.

    The tiger sounds like it had veterancy (there would have been little white dots above it). If so, well, you're in trouble. Veterancy on Axis armour gives incredible damage resistance. Best defense against it would be artillery, AT guns, well micro'd M10s, and mines. Mines mines mines.

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  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Are mines that good? I always forget to build them.

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