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Jay Mariotti: "I'm old. I quit because I'm old."
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-080826mariotti-resigns,0,4225437.story?track=rss
Wah wah, pussy. Get over it. The world has moved on.
My question is this -- the world is, Jay Mariotti has just noticed, moving away from traditional print forms of publishing for recent news to the internet? Does anyone seriously care?
Are we seriously losing something from moving from newspaper to digital content, to the point that someone should quit their newspaper post over it?
Cmon Jay. Seriously, cmon.
Jim Kirk wrote:Jay Mariotti, the opinionated and polarizing sports columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, told the Chicago Tribune he resigned on Tuesday after 17 years with the paper.
Just back from Beijing where he wrote about the Summer Olympics, Mariotti said in a phone interview Tuesday night that he decided to quit after it became clear while in China that sports journalism had become "entirely a Web site business. There were not many newspapers there.'' He added that most of the journalists covering the Games were "there writing for Web sites.''
Mariotti, whose public battles with fellow staffers, team owners, and rival columnists are legendary, didn't disclose any specific plans except to say he will continue doing his regular stint on ESPN's "Around the Horn.''
He said that he "is talking with a lot of Web sites'' and added that the future of his business "sadly is not in newspapers.'' Mariotti said that he sent a resignation letter to Cyrus Freidheim, Sun-Times Media Group Chief Executive and Sun-Times Publisher. When asked via email by the Tribune whether Mariotti had resigned, Sun-Times Editor Michael Cooke responded, "You're kidding?''
Cooke didn't reply to further requests for comment.
"They accepted it,'' Mariotti said of his resignation. "It was my call entirely.''
In a city with a strong sports journalism tradition, Mariotti is thought of as one of its premier columnists. With a style that relied on being contrarian no matter the topic, readers turned to him as much to disagree with what he had to say than agree. He added to his reputation with the scrapes he got in with the subjects he covered.
The highly-paid Mariotti quits after just signing a three-year contract extension in June. At that time, Cooke said that Mariotti was a "focal point'' of the Sun-Times sports section, praising his "pull no punches'' approach.
Commenting on his 17 years at the paper, Mariotti said he loved every minute of it. But he said that with the troubled times newspapers face, it was time to consider a new future.
"I'm a competitor and I get the sense this marketplace doesn't compete,'' he said. "Everyone is hanging on for dear life at both papers. I think probably the days of high stakes competition in Chicago are over.
"To see what's happened in this business...I don't want to go down with it.''
Wah wah, pussy. Get over it. The world has moved on.
My question is this -- the world is, Jay Mariotti has just noticed, moving away from traditional print forms of publishing for recent news to the internet? Does anyone seriously care?
Are we seriously losing something from moving from newspaper to digital content, to the point that someone should quit their newspaper post over it?
Cmon Jay. Seriously, cmon.
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Negative: Spending too much time on the internet makes people stupid and lowers attention spans.
The death of newspapers is really the natural progression of things, though. And the biggest news websites are still the ones associated with TV news or newspapers.
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Actually yes. The time interval of newspapers adds a level of professional time cushion. It isn't everything everywhere every minute.
I think it's mostly the shift from news being serious to being a 24 hour entertainment industry.
It'd be pretty hard to take for a serious journalist to see what's being turned out these days when the glory days are still in memory, I would think.
Normally you have a deadline, you give a story to an editor, that editor revises your story, and then your story gets published. This saves you from the embarrassment of inevitable, but understandable blunders like calling a Jim a John or saying that Tom used to coach for the Exciting Water Animals in 2004 as opposed to 2005. How does this seriously elevate the quality of your content?
Also, if you're a serious journalist, who intends to publish only serious content:
(1) Why would you appear on ESPN's Around the Horn? (tangent, but still...)
(2) Why can't you still do that in a digital environment, except for the fact that you're a talentless old man?
I mean, if you want to write good shit, how does being in a broadsheet make your good shit gooder as opposed to digital content?
Yes -- it's left to the readers more and more to sort the wheat from the chaff. The readers have shown both that they have a willingness to do this, and an ability to do so as well. Jay Mariotti is old.
Print journalism is dying, and I don’t care.
God dammit. When I saw the thread title I was hoping maybe I wouldn't see that pigfucker's face anymore.
And honestly, the tone of that article makes it sound like he might be leaving for greener (or at least, more egotistical) pastures. There's only so much bullshit even Mariotti can get away with spewing at a major newspaper.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Just credibility. There's a fair amount of "can't trust anything you read on the internet" that still kicks around, and probably will for a while. There will always be a demand for professional journalists, cause without them, amateurs like us won't have anything to talk about.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
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Times are a changing. Simply because someone killed a tree and paid for some ink to get your words out there doesn't really, to a discerning eye, make it any more or less credible than anything else.
I mean, I've read things by journalists who do it for a living, just not anyone very professional.
What a clown.
I'd like to see you try and wrap a fish in a website.
Any word on when Skip Bayless will be quitting? I'll be a very happy camper on that day.
My sentiments exactly.
Jay Marriotti is fucking clown shoes.
I think he is moving on. He's noticed that papers are dying and he doesn't wanna die with them. That's why he is in talks with websites. Not that I even know who this guy is.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
It's much easier to find niche news and analysis for the stuff I'm really interested that way
I do love holding a newspaper in my hands and taking in the layout and all that, but I'm not sure that format is going to endure
People seem to be reacting as though he's launched into a tirade about how websites are vile pits of inferior journalism. For some reason.
I want to weigh in on the more substantive topics brought up in the OP, but I have to run to Deadspin first. =D