So I've posted several polite chat threads over in SE++. The last one was locked by Cardboard Tube with a VERY rude reply. I wasn't rude at all I really did want to chat about the subjects I posted.
I'm abit upset.
I sent a copy of this to Apotheos as well.
You told us if we feel we are being treated unfairly in SE++ to send you a message. Lord knows my chat thread was polite and an interesting topic compared to some of the other stuff in there
Honest truth. I know the rules particularly about posting issues like this and fully expect to be jailed for posting this thread and accept that the punishment is deserved. That's what I like about G&T. There are rules that have to be obeyed and if you break them you pay the price. Today though it's a price I'm willing to pay if somebody up top -- ANYBODY up top will at least listen and see and hear the pain many of us G&T'ers are feeling.
Me and other G&T'ers feel that the mods at SE++ are coming down hard on us. How are we supposed to "chat" in SE++ if even the mods lock anything we post up? I REALLY wasn't trying to be a dick in my threads over there although it seemed that everyone else who replied was -- including the mod that locked the thread above.
I'm not being made to feel welcome at all over there. I miss G&T.
What's going on here?
And it did kind of suck.
SE doesn't have chat threads. it is a chat thread.
jump in and chat, you don't need a specific thread to do it in.
We've been told in no uncertain terms that OFF TOPIC chat threads are not allowed at all in G&T ... not even chat threads about games and technology that are intended to be on AND off topic.
So where are we supposed to post?
1) There are so many threads going on in SE++ that you don't necessarily need to make a new thread for every idea you have. Chances are that if a thread is past page 5, it's been derailed at least twice
2) You made three or four threads that all had to do with the same thing (gaming). "What do you drink while gaming?" "What do you listen to?" "What kind of chair do you sit in?" All of them are pretty dumb and even if they weren't, could be condensed into one thread
every thread is a chat thread
it's a chat forum
It was hurried, I had to go back to raping your sister to death with your grandmother's little finger.
First off what is considered "dumb" is completely interpretational depending on who you are. My topics would have been welcomed in G&T in the old days, especially in the old G&T chat threads/console threads.
Secondly, people in G&T know me, I was hoping that G&T chatters, lost and afloat would see a familiar name and congregate to that thread so at least we can touch base. As it stands now, anything posted by a former G&T chatter is generally being flamed to death or the topic is being derailed beyond belief.
G&T Chat and console threads while straying off topic tended to always get back to whatever the OP topic is. This doesn't happen in SE++
If it's a chat forum why was my thread locked? I really DID want to chat about music in games.
And, surprise surprise, SE isn't G&T. Doesn't work quite the same.
If I see a topic of a thread that catches my eye and feel like discussing it, only to open it on page 5 and see that it's been long derailed, then what's the point?
I don't expect it to change. I don't even really want it to change. I just won't bother taking part in it, probably.
but the point was that it is not at all appropriate for SE, and would be more appropriate in G*T
i'm not saying that it'd survive there, but it belongs there more than it does in SE
I've lurked in SE in the past even made a couple posts. As six stated almost EVERY thread gets derailed there.
The reason people (and myself) enjoyed chatting in G&T console threads is because we could go slightly off topic without the thread being derailed from the original OP.
In SE most topics are lucky if they get 2 pages before complete derailment/thread assassination.
This is the dilema of former G&T chatters. Alot of what we post most DEFINATELY won't cut it in SE++.
And G&T doesn't want us anymore. So where do we go?
Regarding the question, even if it was stated not as a poll but as a general topic, G&T seems to be focusing more on being about game news and game technology. Music played while gaming seems to stray abit from that into the "let's chat about gaming music" catagory.
The mods expecting the G&T folks to cheerfully migrate over there and chat like they used to? Brilliant idea*. Seriously, an entire forum where hijacking an existing thread is preferred over making a new one is the most retarded idea I have ever come across.
that's sarcasm if you missed it
I didn't say that it would stay open in G&T, because it won't. As you say, there is no good place to post that thread. They were, in fact, terrible threads.
However, while totally unsuited for SE, they would have gone more in G&T because they were all about games.
Even if they wouldn't have stayed open.
Do you see my point? I've spent most of today on this forum and I'm tired, so please excuse any unclear-ness.
They may have been welcomed, but it doesn't mean they weren't dumb. They were poll threads. Poll threads by default are dumb. Nobody really cares what chair you sit in during gaming, or what drink you sip on, or what music you listen in on.
The G&T "chatter" topics are being locked and flamed because they are stupid. They're going through the mentality that SE++ is a place to type "cocks dicks lol" and post mind numbingly retarded pictures that you found on 4chan.
I've posted gaming chair topics before in G&T that have lasted many pages. The problem is more that the people interested in seriously discussing and chatting about that sort of thing (while having the freedom to stray off topic now and then) are in G&T ... not SE++.
True, but Bamelin's intent to have G&T converstaion in SE was pretty clear.
People post for a bit, then topic switches.
I just don't like the idea of 25 individual topics where EVERY topic is off-topic.
Sure, it stays on topic for the first few pages, but it always veers off.
Wanna talk about the bear thread? It just went from bears to Canada to Canada meet up.
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The general rule is, if your thread seems dumb at all to you, you probably shouldn't post it
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There's even a 360 thread in SE http://www.penny-arcade.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1073831679
That would seem to be more G&T's province isn't it?
It just seems that the rules are contradictory. I don't know what's appropriate to post where now. SE definately talks about games. It's the lax rules in terms of forum etiquette and chat in SE++ that seperates the two.
Seriously orikae, Bamelin's question is the kind of shit that would have flown in the GnT chat thread, no two ways about it.
Honestly, the scientific method is a far better indicator than random guessing and accusations.
If you read the thread title, it's the SE++ 360 thread because SEers would rather play with each other than with G&Ters
But see we generally have a music thread, and a book thread, and a few gaming threads, and other things that DO stay on topic.
But we're an OFF TOPIC forum. Don't get into a tizzy because we dont really feel a 'WHATS YOUR FAVORITE CAKE' thread makes the cut