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craiger316
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Why is it always broken? Or pointing to the previous day's comic? Why do I have to manually enter http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic to see it?
There is of course also a lot of weirdness in the archive itself, i doubt you could keep hitting the back button and expect to be able to go back through the entire archive without hitting a road block.
I guess the reason I ask is, its been like this for months, why hasn't it been fixed?
Craig.
There is of course also a lot of weirdness in the archive itself, i doubt you could keep hitting the back button and expect to be able to go back through the entire archive without hitting a road block.
I guess the reason I ask is, its been like this for months, why hasn't it been fixed?
Craig.
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We all know how much a link from Tycho or Gabe can wang another forum... Well, my guess is that the comic gets that same treatment each week, on an order of magnitudes larger. Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if they have redundancies and other things to make sure the comic doesn't go down, and it takes a bit to propigate through those.
I remember a while back when a big deal was made of the site's new CMS. It's all very shiny I'm sure, but I would hope that "getting the comic online" would be pretty much the #1 job for it, and it doesn't seem terribly good at it. Maybe it's a propagation issue as Athenor says, but then how come the news post seems to propagate just fine? Or are the images hosted on a different box to the text/HTML, and there's some major delay going on there?
The point is, the RSS announces there's a comic, the news post talks about a comic, and there's no comic. This seems to happen more than 50% of the time. It's a shame, as I would love to be able to read the comic that Tycho's talking about as I'm reading him talking about it, rather than returning every couple of hours for the rest of the day to see if it's up yet.
Too funny, yes that is exactly why I registered, just to ask this question. And I too figured how they could let this slip for so long. I just figured perhaps people are too afraid to ask lest they be flamed into char-broiled bits
Craig.
Here's the most recent one.
Also, if you plan on posting after this thread craiger316, I'd recommend not signing your posts, it's looked down on as repetative seeing how most of us have actual sigs.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20060918.jpg
The file name is YYYYMMDD, so just edit the url to match the day of the comic you want.
I've never had this fail to bring up the comic.
Agreed.
Maybe T&G don't know? I bet they just stick their stuff in the CMS and hit "publish", then assume it's all working fine. After all, it's worked okay in the past, right?
Excepting that, the guy has nipples the size of dinner-plates.
I find the shitty tacked on reflection at the bottom far more off putting than giant armored nipple plates.
This is happening for todays comic as well. Link points to previous comic, going directly to http://pen../comic shows current comic.
Again, seems like a weird problem to just "tolerate" don't you think?
Today's comic isn't up.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic sends me to yesterdays
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/10/27 sends me to yesterdays
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2006/20061027.jpg gives me 400, bad request ????
What the hell. Do you have some sort of load balancing solution that doesn't actually update all of the servers until the day after?
loosen your britches
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Bzzzzt, wrong. For instance, today's post link is supposed to take me to the comic for "British spoken here" for 10/27/2006, yet it takes me to "Misdirection" for 10/25/2006. If I type in http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic it takes me to the proper one "British spoken here"
Yet, the link in the posting was for the correct date: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/10/27
After I viewed the comic via the /comic link, I tried the http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/10/27 link again and it actually took me to the correct comic, not sure why/how.
I like you already.
Man, Tube. This forum is specifically here for complaining about problems with the site. Whippy said "No, the problem doesn't exist" and someone else then confirmed that it really does. Ease off.
It's not like anyone was being a dick, they are legit concerns. I'm sure that we all appreciate the work that Gabe, Tycho, WhipstichZombie, and AlphaMonkey do (especially Alpha on the occasions that the servers shit the bed and he has to spend a ton of time fixing it).
I usually view the comic in the SE++ thread, since I can view it there usually quite a while before I can view it on the main site. This leads me not to read the newspost, or even look on the front page most of the time, which only drops the amount of ad views reported, which drops the amount of money the site makes. I know one person not viewing some ads might not make any kind of viewable impact, but it's still (if I'm not the only person who does that) something that the admins might want to know about, especially Khoo, since he's in charge of ads and revenue.
Just a thought.
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You are too easily offended. The fact of the matter is, I posed a question and all I have receive is speculation. And false speculation at that. Not someone in charge stating "we are aware of the problem, here's why it happens". No. Just users speculating why the problem happens.
"It's a free site, live with it..." That was exactly the response I thought I would get within about 2 seconds of posting the original question. Instead I was pleasantly surprised that other users of the site were as frustrated and bewildered as I. The site isn't *free*, its evolved past that state, it is a vehicle to sell stuff. It's not to say that they don't love what they do, but as far as I know, T&G buy diapers with the cash generated by the marketing aspects of the site. If the site were to one day disappear, would T&G get paid? This isn't like xkcd where the guy works for nasa during the day and draws stick figures and the mom-jokes that go along with them in his spare time.
Would people still be interested in the printed material for sale if the site didn't exist? Maybe the diehard fans. But truth of the matter is, they sell us stuff by producing a "free" comic and then whispering "oh and by the way, go here to buy a shirt/poster/PaX tickets...". And avertisers pay them, not only for original content ads, but the advertisers are interested in placing ads on their site based on the metrics for how many people visit their site per day/month/year. They pay for your eyes (afaik).
In conclusion: I'm not hating here, I have no resentment that they make their living doing what I would love to be able to do, I say hats off to you nobel sirs. I just don't get why the chronic archive problem has existed so long. yes, yes I know, its little more than an "incovenience". I guess the fact that I code these types of systems for a living grants me the obsessive compulsive nature of wanting to know why they are broken and how they can be fixed. I don't mean to offend and sorry if I came across that way.
Alright. I give up, I'll just put up with it and as Cardboard Tube said "Shut up". But (and there is always a but) it's old style thinking to say I'm not paying them anything by visiting their site. True, not directly, but its how the spice flows in the internet age...
Au Revoir.
And similarly, we are freely submitting an explained bug report, which in itself is valuable - the kind of thing that companies employ Quality Assurance people for. Y'know, if I was running a website that both showcased my creative work and provided my main source of income, I'd definitely want to know if there was something wrong. (Don't forget, PA is a business.)
We're not bitching, we're explaining that something's wrong and it impacts site usage. That's what this forum's for, remember?
This thread slipped under my radar. I'm just posting to say I am aware of the problem, and I'm trying to figure out where the issue stems from. Right now, it doesn't look to be a code issue so much as a data issue. I'll address the posts individually later tonight, I would appreciate it if people kept things civil in here though. I understand there are problems with the site, and I will do what I can to resolve those, but if I don't fix your specific bug immediately please do not take it personally.
Thanks alpha, will be nice to see the links/archive back in order.
Great! Glad to hear that there's an admin on it. Thanks!
(Whippy doesn't do this kind of thing)
Oops. Begging your pardon, Mr Admin Sir.
*tugs forelock, bows*