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The Aquarium Thread! Way more expensive than you ever imagined!

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So I saw there's no general thread on here about aquariums, and figured I'd start it. I've been toying around with them for a little over 2 years now, and while it's an awesome hobby, it's way more expensive than I ever imagined.

Also, the internet is filled with people who like to tell you that you can't have certain fish unless you build a real life ocean in your yard, and I've found many of the online forums are filled with people who just yell at you. You'll ask about pH, or water temperature, or if a fish can live with another fish and you get a lot of "NO OMG YOU SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY PETZ." So I thought maybe this could be a resource to anyone in this lovely little community to at least be yelled at by people you've interacted with before.

I love talking aquariums and have made a million mistakes, so if anyone has an interest, fire away! I'm by no means an authority but have made almost every mistake imaginable, so I'll at least offer any help I can.

I've got a 10 gallon freshwater (just a tiger barb, 2 tetras and a algae eater) that was my first tank, and was super easy to do. It requires almost no maintanance whatsoever.

I've got a 55 gallon tank that houses my coolest mistake - a Tiger Oscar. He was the size of a goldfish when I got him, so I bought him on a whim and threw him in the 10 gallon tank. 5 months later he had eaten everything in it, and I either had to sell him back, flush him, or buy him a new tank because he was ginormous. Now, he chills in the 55g at a little under a foot and eats live goldfish and frozen peas. He lives with a Pleco.

And my awesome, AWESOME but EXPENSIVE AS FUCK WHY DID I GET INTO THIS HOBBY 75g saltwater tank. It's got 2 clownfish, a royal gramma, a zebra dartfish and a pajama cardinal, red stripe angelfish, yellow tang and cleaner shrimp that all got added yesterday. And awesome! My angelfish is sick and may kill EVERYTHING now! So, I'm still learning obviously, but man it's pretty rewarding seeing a saltwater tank. So many things I never ever expected to see just from buying ROCKS.

So if you've got a sweet tank, show it off or whatever. I'm just hoping there's enough of us here who either already are into the hobby, or are thinking of getting in, that we can pool info (and possibly trade stuff if there's others who are into corals), because man - the level of contradicting info on the internet about fishkeeping is insane.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The other day I decided to look up how I'd go about keeping some jellyfish. It turns out that you need some really specialist gear as otherwise you just end up with a filter full of mangled slime and no cute little friends bobbing about.

    This made me sad.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2008
    Detective Sipowicz had a tank. It appeared to help keep him on a relatively even keel.

    Does an aquarium in the house help relax you, or do you find yourself constantly fretting about temperature, predation of the smaller fish, wii-related smashings, etc? I have cats, and therefore will almost certainly not get a tank, but I'm curious.

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    My sister wanted fish a month or two ago, and my father bought her some. Now they're mine, because she doesn't take care of them. They are just two bettas, in a small tank with some bamboo and rocks. I enjoy their company, for what it's worth.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Bogart wrote: »
    Detective Sipowicz had a tank. It appeared to help keep him on a relatively even keel.

    Does an aquarium in the house help relax you, or do you find yourself constantly fretting about temperature, predation of the smaller fish, wii-related smashings, etc? I have cats, and therefore will almost certainly not get a tank, but I'm curious.

    A little of both. Since after 8 months I STILL haven't totally got a handle down on saltwater, its mostly stress - but a fun kind of stress? Right now I started this thread because I'm waiting for a "hospital tank" to get to the right temperature, because of my sick angelfish. It's stressful doing stuff like this, and checking water paramaters - but it's awesome when the 2 weeks pass and you're pretty sure a new fish is going to stay alive. It's a great feeling. Saltwater stuff beyond clownfish is torture because they're SO damn awesome looking, but they die SO easily.

    But my little 10g freshwater, and even the big guy I have are awesome. The 10g especially - it's really easy to get an equilibrium going where you have enough algae eater guys to keep them fed, and the tank spotless, and all you do is remember to turn on the light and off the light, and add food. It's been going for 2 years with very little death, and Ive never cleaned it. Its awesome to just sit and watch it at night.

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  • Monolithic_DomeMonolithic_Dome Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thread needs more pictures of fishies.

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I lack fish, but we recently added an asian softshelled turtle and his own little 50g wide tank to the family. My cat doesn't find him too amusing thankfully, and he bit me on the fucking nose when I first met him, but he's cute.

    Also, he digs up every plant we put in there to burrow under it. And only eats frozen shrimp :P
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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Also, he's probably delicious. So if he ever bites you again, you can just boil the water in the tank.

    I briefly entertained the idea of a pet crayfish, but I don't think it's a good idea to havea pet that on some level you know you would enjoy eating.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I was a fish nut before I went off to college...

    African cichlids, Pacu, Oscar's, basically anything you could imagine...

    My most favorite one was an African(Possibly american, but doubtful, PH was very alkline) Cichlid that I can't seem to find the name of. Was quite large and very docile to his smaller neighbors.

    I lived on the water so was able to catch fresh live shrimp for them to eat, they had a frenzy catching the buggers.


    A picture of one of my other favorites:
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    Now I want to get back into it, dangit!

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  • Mom2KatMom2Kat Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well I started with a 10 gallon tank that a friend gave me when she moved to Calgary. It had a Betta, an Angel Fish, 3 neons, a pleco and what she called a chinese sucker fish that I never found the right name for. Well about 6 months later the betta died. She had the tank for a year.

    Another friend of mine wanted a small tank and had a 25 gallon she didn't need, so we switched. The fish did well untill we left for a wekk and my brother in law thought that they needed feeding every other day. I was down to 2 neons and one really happy angel, as well as the alge eaters.

    We go forward to 2.5 years after I got the tank, (last week) And I am cleaning it. Because when I got the bigger tank it had no lid so I had to order one. I got a Flourecent blub where I had been using incandescent in the old tank. Well the New lid had a grow light in it. I was getting neat looking alge on all teh rocks and finnaly decided to clean it. Well all was going well untill I grabbed a scrubby to get the clinging alge off the sides and refilled the tank put the fish back in. As my neons were dying I realized that even though it was a fresh scrubby it had some antibacterial crap on it. Then the Angel was burried in the garden. And that night I threw the Pleco and Cinese sucker fish on the garbage pile for the racoons. (Hope the fuckers got poked by the pleco's armour!)

    So now I am considering getting some plain gold fish and trying again. I liked the tank it was neat and the Angel had quite a personality. Either that or I am going to drain it and get a Guinea Pig.

    I also have a 650gallon Pond that has been a wonder and annoyance that I love.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    At the moment I don't have the time to maintain an aquarium with lots of different fish and all that, but I did get a free aquarium off Craigslist, spruce it up with some plastic plants and use it to house this guy:
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    I was hoping the larger space would prevent him from eating his siblings, but no. No it didn't.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Taximes wrote: »
    At the moment I don't have the time to maintain an aquarium with lots of different fish and all that, but I did get a free aquarium off Craigslist, spruce it up with some plastic plants and use it to house this guy:
    triops.jpg

    I was hoping the larger space would prevent him from eating his siblings, but no. No it didn't.

    What is that and why is it so awesome looking.

    Also - something I learned early on - 'tropical' freshwater fish are about 3000 times easier to care for than goldfish. Goldfish are dirt cheap, but they're so messy when it comes to eating/pooping that they usually contaminate the water and poison themselves to death within a month. So if you're thinking of getting back in, I'd try something in that tropical area. If you want a fish that can live in a bowl, sans heater/filter, my friend had a Zebra Danio (silver with black stripes, simple guy) live in a coffee cup for 2 years in college. It was insane. Nothing could kill it (except a puffer fish. When we finally added it to my tank, he was a snack in less than a second. Poor guy finally sees life outside a mug and thats what happens.)

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  • Romero ZombieRomero Zombie Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I used to be really into fish, but lost interest. I worked at Petsmart for a few years when I was younger and took advantage of the discounts and had three different tanks.

    One tank I had was for my docile fish (tetra's / molly's etc)

    Tank #2 I had my African cichlids

    Tank #3 i had my South American cichlids

    All three tanks were so easy to maintain it was stupid. I couldn't kill my fish if I wanted to. Freshwater is really easy to take care of.

    After I had a lot of success with freshwater, my roomate and I decided to venture into the world of salt water fish. So we bought an 80G tank and got started. The tank started out with a couple of clown fish, and then we picked up a blue tang and so far so good. But the next fish we put in, I don't remember the name, some form of puffer fish, got sick and infected the entire tank inducing death throughout the tank. Unfortunately salt water fish are quite a bit more expensive, so we stopped for a bit.

    After our first salt water failure, we went ahead and tried a coral tank, which proved to be just as difficult. The guy at the store didn't really know what he was talking about and sold us a lot of different types of coral which was really cool to look at, but did not sell us the right kind of light. So eventually all the coral we spent a ton of money on ended up dying as well :( After our two failures in salt water adventures, we just quit and stuck with freshwater.

    I am really wanting to try another salt water setup though, I loved the way the coral looked.

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    The other day I decided to look up how I'd go about keeping some jellyfish. It turns out that you need some really specialist gear as otherwise you just end up with a filter full of mangled slime and no cute little friends bobbing about.

    This made me sad.

    Jellyfish are terrible terrible creatures.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    mxmarks wrote: »
    What is that and why is it so awesome looking.

    It's a Triops...they're like sea monkeys in that you hatch them from a pouch of dried eggs, but they grow larger and are far awesomer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triops

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Marks, speaking of being told you're doing it wrong, but, you're doing it wrong. :P

    Oscars require a much, much larger tank that a 55g because they get freaking huge. And tiger barbs are shoaling fish, so should be in a larger tank with 6 - 9 other tiger barbs.

    Anyway.

    I used to have piranhas. Here they are as babies:

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    And here they were before I sold them :( (I miss having piranhas).

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    My aquarium currently sits empty after having tiger barbs, danios, a sailfin pleco, otos, and other fish. I got tired of weekly water changes so I sold what I had and shut the aquarium down.

    One day I'd like to set up a large tank, say 200 - 300 gallons and raise a shoal of 5 or 8 piranhas. But moving aquariums suck and the 55g was already a pain in the ass. So I'll wait until I own my own place.

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  • JudasJudas Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How much weekly "protection money" were those two little orange fish in the front paying the two Piranhas not to eat them?

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I used to be really into fish, but lost interest. I worked at Petsmart for a few years when I was younger and took advantage of the discounts and had three different tanks.

    One tank I had was for my docile fish (tetra's / molly's etc)

    Tank #2 I had my African cichlids

    Tank #3 i had my South American cichlids

    All three tanks were so easy to maintain it was stupid. I couldn't kill my fish if I wanted to. Freshwater is really easy to take care of.

    After I had a lot of success with freshwater, my roomate and I decided to venture into the world of salt water fish. So we bought an 80G tank and got started. The tank started out with a couple of clown fish, and then we picked up a blue tang and so far so good. But the next fish we put in, I don't remember the name, some form of puffer fish, got sick and infected the entire tank inducing death throughout the tank. Unfortunately salt water fish are quite a bit more expensive, so we stopped for a bit.

    After our first salt water failure, we went ahead and tried a coral tank, which proved to be just as difficult. The guy at the store didn't really know what he was talking about and sold us a lot of different types of coral which was really cool to look at, but did not sell us the right kind of light. So eventually all the coral we spent a ton of money on ended up dying as well :( After our two failures in salt water adventures, we just quit and stuck with freshwater.

    I am really wanting to try another salt water setup though, I loved the way the coral looked.

    I'm in your boat. Its so damn expensive, but I've found a great website.

    Liveaquaria.com has a very good description of each creature (even freshwater!), and has a 2 week policy. If it dies within 2 weeks, you get credit back (but they may ask for the body, just to make sure you actually did attempt to keep it alive, ect...). You dont get refunded for shipping ($35), but it's a little bit of a safety net if you're debating starting it out again, and so far they've been great with me. I've lost 3 pretty expensive fish, and they've been nothing but helpful and have credited me every time.

    Salts seem to take FOREVER to get there, but once you finally do achieve that perfect water, maintenance takes a huge swing to the easier. Right now, I rarely check for wastes and stuff, but am battling pH. Once thats in check, I think I'll be alright. Stuff is dying much less frequently, and it's starting to look like a real tank...

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Judas wrote: »
    How much weekly "protection money" were those two little orange fish in the front paying the two Piranhas not to eat them?

    I dunno, but I can tell you that it wasn't enough. :P

    Those are cichlids I bought on sale as feeders for the piranhas. Regular feeders are the last thing anyone should use for feeding piranhas.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Nova - hah, thanks!

    I told you I'm still learning! When I realized my Oscar was going to keep growing and growing (he was in a 10g before I actually found out, shit, he's gonna get huge), I needed to make him more comfortable and found it was kind of universal that 55g was the MINIMUM for a Tiger Oscar to keep him alright. So right now, that was all I could afford, and he's doing fine. Within the next year (he's a little over a year now), when I move into my own place (renting an apt with a roomate now) I'll definatley be upgrading. The plan is actually to get a 125g and move the saltwater stuff into THAT, and then give the Oscar the 75. But we'll see how ambitious I feel at that point haha. Either way - the Oscar will have a bigger home when I move.

    And I think I made my tiger barb a crotchety old man. There were 3 of them, and over time 2 died and I never replaced them. I tried adding one a couple months ago, and he nipped him to death. So Im guessing he's used to being alone and no one is going to tie him down =)

    But seriously - I like being told Im doing things wrong in this hobby. Its way too expensive to learn Im doing things wrong on my own. :)

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  • Simon MoonSimon Moon Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My wife loves aquariums. We are currently in a cycle of moving frequently for school; we just moved, we're moving in about a year, and a year after that she'll be moving every 8 weeks for rotations, and a year after that we'll move somewhere more permanently, hopefully. Moving aquariums is a giant pain in the ass, so when we started the cycle, we got rid of the fish, put most of the aquariums in storage, and set up one 40-something gallon bow-front tank in her parents' house to keep her foot-long pleco alive until we wind up somewhere for long enough to make setting up the big tanks worthwhile.

    So, for now, all we have are 3 bettas in bowls in our kitchen. At one point in the past, though, we had 4 20 gallon tanks, the 40-something bow-front, a 55, and a 90, all full, plus about 12 bettas, including a spare 20 gallon set up for breeding. Lots of gourami, a school of silver dollar fish, a school of pictus cats, a puffer, the giant pleco, and a hundred or so assorted "accessory fish," as my wife refers to them.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I have a 29gal tank that houses my two red eared sliders.

    They were given to me and I've only had them for a couple weeks (they were way too small to have been sold apparently) and they seem to be doing pretty good.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My sister purchased some Bala Sharks a while back and I told her they'd grow to a foot or so and would need a bigger tank. But she didn't believe me until this past year when they're now considering getting a 150 gl tank to house the buggers. On the plus side, out of all the fish she's ever purchased these ones have survived the longest.

    But christ if they don't make such a racket if you so much as walk past them. I swear they're going to jump through the glass one day.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    For everyone taking care of bettas, or any fish, really, a 'fishbowl' is never a good idea. There are pretty much no fish in the hobby that will live a healthy full life in a bowl. A betta can live comfortably in a 5 gallon aquarium, however, so you don't need to get anything big.

    Most people think if they have a fish a couple years that they did pretty good, but even tetras are supposed to live almost 10 years if properly cared for.

    EDIT: Marks, tiger barbs are fighters. I had a shoal of them for a while. They are aggressive bullies that like to pick on other fish. Your lone tiger may as well be kept alone, but for anyone who wants to care for them in the future, they should be kept in a school of 6 - 10 in a 30 gallon or larger aquarium. In a small school of say, 3, their aggression will manifest as harassing, usually to death, any other fish you have with them. Once you get to a school of 6+, their aggression is usually contained within the shoal.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thanks Nova! Im glad this thread is taking off, because if theres one thing Ive really learned, it's that going into a pet store and reading the little card about the fish is almost never accurate.

    (wheres that NBC the more you know chime when I need it)

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  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I have guppies, which breed like tribbles in my aquarium. How the hell do I control the population short of launching a cull? I sometimes scoop some out and give them to the local aquarium store or one of my coworkers, but I can never manage to get the females.

    I got me a 30 gallon with two gouramis, three albino sharks (I know, I thought they were schooling fish) and currently about 20 guppies. I have a fifty gallon that I haven't set up yet.

    Also... what the hell do the albino sharks eat? They hardly get at the flakes and pellets I drop in, but I've had them for about six months and they're doing fine.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I have an oscar and a couple firemouth cichlids and an albino something or other cichlid in a tank with a foot long Plecostomus. Everyone gets along great, the oscar this time around is really mellow, and doesn't try to kill everything, which is a plus. I keep em all in a 55gal tank and there is just enough room, a 125gal is in the future though. I'll post pics when I get home.

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  • TetsugenTetsugen Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
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    One of my favorite tanks

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Started some fresh water plants before I went to school as well, was really neat looking. A fully stocked tank packed with fresh water plants is a sight to behold.

    Another thing, if you are adding to an existing aquarium, QUARANTINE your new fish!
    Preferably use some filter media or an article from the previous tank. Keep it similar temp/ph/etc...

    Get a 10gal or so depending on the fish you are getting and have them stay there a week.
    The 10gal can be very simple. Usually just a well broken in filter, simple substrate and good clean water.
    This will cut down on diseases infecting your whole tank and wiping out your fish.

    This is especially important for salt water.

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  • MaceraMacera UGH GODDAMMIT STOP ENJOYING THINGSRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    re: triops
    triops_numidicus.jpg

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Macera wrote: »
    re: triops
    triops_numidicus.jpg

    What the hell ARE those? Marine? Freshwater? Inverts? Crabs?

    Ive never seen that thing in my life. It looks like a horseshoe crab...

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've had a 55 gallon in my house for all 20 years of my life and it's had a variety of residents. Our most notable was a rather large16 year old goldfish. He was an intelligent bastard.

    Now the largest fish we have is either a pleco or a red tail tin foil barb (fantastic fish, btw. beautiful and quick) but unfortunately he is starting to out grow the tank. I feel terrible for the guy because they have wonderful vision and if he sees something moving rather quickly all the way down the hallway he'll generally flip out unless someone submits a notice to him two days in advance. When he does that he'll dart to the other side of the aquarium and often bump into the other side because he didn't slow down enough. It's depressing.

    I've also got stripped and spotted raphael catfish in there which are also a real treat when they come out from their cover to feed. They look incredibly exotic.

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I have a planted freshwater 90 that gets CO2, ferts, etc. I never take pictures *now* because it's always going to look so much better *later.* At any rate, here's what it looked like in some early stage with a bunch of stem plants:

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    Also, I've never considered saltwater because of all the time, money, and stress involved.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    an_alt wrote: »
    I have a planted freshwater 90 that gets CO2, ferts, etc. I never take pictures *now* because it's always going to look so much better *later.* At any rate, here's what it looked like in some early stage with a bunch of stem plants:
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    Also, I've never considered saltwater because of all the time, money, and stress involved.

    I want to start a planted tank again.
    That one is looking nice!

    What kind of lighting is on that? Just CF?
    Also, what substrate?

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    mxmarks wrote: »
    Macera wrote: »
    re: triops
    triops_numidicus.jpg
    What the hell ARE those? Marine? Freshwater? Inverts? Crabs?
    Ive never seen that thing in my life. It looks like a horseshoe crab...
    Looking at the Wiki entry for Triops, they look to be freshwater. I've seen them sold in toy stores (well, Triops eggs actually) like sea-monkeys. Was tempted to buy a package, but seriously look at that thing.

    It looks like it would murder you in your sleep as a sacrifice to it's dark primordial gods.

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  • ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How do people change the water in these massive tanks? You can't lift it up and tip it down the sink like I do with my fishtank.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How do people change the water in these massive tanks? You can't lift it up and tip it down the sink like I do with my fishtank.

    I imagine you'd use a siphon.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How do people change the water in these massive tanks? You can't lift it up and tip it down the sink like I do with my fishtank.

    That's scary, unless its like 5gal or something.

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  • CycophantCycophant Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Wow, perfect timing - just as I was getting interested in picking up an aquarium, I stumble across this gem of a thread.

    Here's a question for you folks, since I imagine you'll be able to answer it better than many others; I'm looking for a low maintenance pet. Preferably something a bit more animated than the house plants I own, but not much. The problem is, I work in a profession where I occasionally disappear for up to a month at a time. I've got a roommate, and friends who could stop by occasionally, but I want something that's rather self-sufficient for a decent length of time if possible.

    One of my friends suggested getting something simple like a crab, which is an idea I really liked. So, do any of you have little crabs to keep things clean in your tanks? Anything else you might be able to suggest?

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Cycophant wrote: »
    One of my friends suggested getting something simple like a crab, which is an idea I really liked. So, do any of you have little crabs to keep things clean in your tanks? Anything else you might be able to suggest?
    Crabs are pretty cool.
    If you're planning on putting them in with fish, make sure that the fish don't have long fins (IE Angel fish, bettas, fancy guppys etc...) because there are few things a little crab loves more then pulling a fish down to eat. Also, make sure they don't have large rocks to stand on, as this gives them a place to ambush other fish they wouldn't normally be able to reach.

    On second thought, crabs are little bitches and shouldn't be mixed with fish. On their own though, they do look pretty cool.

    Also, read up on Triops. They look like just what you're looking for. They don't live long (2-3 months), but they lay eggs(asexually) before they die. Eggs that can survive being dried out. Leave the bowl out and let the water evaporate when you leave, all the adults die when the waters gone. You get back, dump in a couple gallons of distilled water and Boom! new baby triops... I think I may have to get me some. They look awesome in a primordial evil kind of way.
    Æthelred wrote: »
    How do people change the water in these massive tanks? You can't lift it up and tip it down the sink like I do with my fishtank.
    You can get a siphon at pretty much any pet store. Basically it's a long thin rubber tube, connected to a shorter but wider plastic tube. Siphon half the water out and replace it with fresh and you should be good to go. On a side note, the old fish water is great for potted plants.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    When I was a kid I would raise plecostomuses (plecostomi?) and sell them back to the pet store. I made $50 on this one pleco, he was about 16 inches long.

    It's odd that my favorite aquarium fish is the one that barely moves and sucks shit off of the aquarium surfaces.

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