The Holocaust Never Happened

Pharezon

Penguin Incarnate wrote: »

Russian planes?

That's a joke, right?

Penguin Incarnate

Please, the Russian air force didn't even have radios.

Or planes.

Muggins

That's the SU-47 right?

Penguin Incarnate

We're talking WWII here. Pay attention.

Pharezon

Veretas wrote: »

That's the SU-47 right?

Yessir. It looks awesome. Can't wait to fly one in H.A.W.X. that new ubisoft game.

EDIT: YES PENGUIN

Muggins

and I'm talking about the motherfucking SU-47

Russian planes are fucking incredible.

L|ama

Yes, and she is so pretty.

Shame that stability at low speeds and turning radius aren't really important for modern fighters (which are the main things that the 'backwards' wings are for)



Haha, Tom Clancy game? If he has any input it'll be stupidly underpowered compared to real life.

DrIanMalcolm

also holy shit GIS'ing Volgin resulted in things I didn't want to see

Pharezon

L|ama wrote: »

Yes, and she is so pretty.

Shame that stability at low speeds and turning radius aren't really important for modern fighters (which are the main things that the 'backwards' wings are for)



Haha, Tom Clancy game? If he has any input it'll be stupidly underpowered compared to real life.

He none thankfully. I just want to fly an SU-47 around destroying things.

Also to Penguin



The Ilyushin Il 2 Shturmovik or The Black Death as the Germans called it.

Muggins

THE BLACK DEATH

L|ama

They possibly stuck prisoners that they wanted dead as rear gunners in those things because they died so much. Stalin knew how to get shit done.

cherv1

i'd suggest that the people who make claims about the holocaust being exaggerated also hold beliefs such as there was no moon landing, evolution is a lie and there is a cabal of reptiles

that'd be my guess

L|ama

Cool, why not just lump in healthy suspicion with blatant disregard for obvious truths. Makes arguing against it a hell of a lot easier.

Kuwa

DrIanMalcolm wrote: »

also holy shit GIS'ing Volgin resulted in things I didn't want to see

you for this

cherv1

here are some of examples of when ''healthy suspicion'' is drummed up to promote an agenda by claiming that we "just don't know enough" to come to a certain conclusion

global warming denialism
smoking causes cancer
information about the holocaust
mmr vaccines
quack medicines

and the people who parrot the we just have enough information about it line never really know anything much about the actual issue itself

so in this case it's encouraging a contrived controversy, and that "debate" makes it more acceptable to be anti-semitic, just like the debate about evolution makes it more acceptable to have creationist views because we just can't be certain and we'd better have both


ps this isn't meant to compare any of those things directly with hating the jew or anything, just the methods of denialism

Prolegomena

so there's a cooking program on in the background that I wasn't really paying attention to, and some food critic just said 'the jew was a disappointment'


at least til I realised she said 'jus'

bongi

My dad believes in the world Jewish conspiracy

Muggins

bongi what will happen if I meet your dad

Fallout

cherv1 wrote: »

here are some of examples of when ''healthy suspicion'' is drummed up to promote an agenda by claiming that we "just don't know enough" to come to a certain conclusion

global warming denialism
smoking causes cancer
information about the holocaust
mmr vaccines
quack medicines

and the people who parrot the we just have enough information about it line never really know anything much about the actual issue itself

so in this case it's encouraging a contrived controversy, and that "debate" makes it more acceptable to be anti-semitic, just like the debate about evolution makes it more acceptable to have creationist views because we just can't be certain and we'd better have both


ps this isn't meant to compare any of those things directly with hating the jew or anything, just the methods of denialism

Claiming that acknowledging the possibility of the exaggeration of holocaust death tolls is tantamount to holocaust denial is asinine and you should be ashamed.

bongi

Veretas wrote: »

bongi what will happen if I meet your dad

I don't know

I mean most Americans he meets get the 'Bush is bad and 9/11 is a lie' lecture anyway

Fallout

well, he's half right at least

bongi

I actually worry a bit, because I've read some of the articles he's left around and they don't read like well-reasoned arguments, they just read like propaganda, they all say the same things '9/11 is a lie Bush has to come clean about it' repackaged in different ways

Bloods End

Not only did the Holocaust happen, but it is still happening.

Fallout

bongi wrote: »

I actually worry a bit, because I've read some of the articles he's left around and they don't read like well-reasoned arguments, they just read like propaganda, they all say the same things '9/11 is a lie Bush has to come clean about it' repackaged in different ways

how much do other countries actually care about 9/11

bongi

Fallout wrote: »

bongi wrote: »

I actually worry a bit, because I've read some of the articles he's left around and they don't read like well-reasoned arguments, they just read like propaganda, they all say the same things '9/11 is a lie Bush has to come clean about it' repackaged in different ways

how much do other countries actually care about 9/11

It's consumed my dad's life totally

So I don't really know

Fallout

bongi wrote: »

Fallout wrote: »

bongi wrote: »

I actually worry a bit, because I've read some of the articles he's left around and they don't read like well-reasoned arguments, they just read like propaganda, they all say the same things '9/11 is a lie Bush has to come clean about it' repackaged in different ways

how much do other countries actually care about 9/11

It's consumed my dad's life totally

So I don't really know

bongi

I would say the average person doesn't care that much and possibly thinks America should get over itself?

Janson

Fallout wrote: »

cherv1 wrote: »

here are some of examples of when ''healthy suspicion'' is drummed up to promote an agenda by claiming that we "just don't know enough" to come to a certain conclusion

global warming denialism
smoking causes cancer
information about the holocaust
mmr vaccines
quack medicines

and the people who parrot the we just have enough information about it line never really know anything much about the actual issue itself

so in this case it's encouraging a contrived controversy, and that "debate" makes it more acceptable to be anti-semitic, just like the debate about evolution makes it more acceptable to have creationist views because we just can't be certain and we'd better have both


ps this isn't meant to compare any of those things directly with hating the jew or anything, just the methods of denialism

Claiming that acknowledging the possibility of the exaggeration of holocaust death tolls is tantamount to holocaust denial is asinine and you should be ashamed.

Fallout you have always been one of my favourite forumers

And posts like this just go to show why

Fallout

Janson wrote: »

Fallout wrote: »

cherv1 wrote: »

here are some of examples of when ''healthy suspicion'' is drummed up to promote an agenda by claiming that we "just don't know enough" to come to a certain conclusion

global warming denialism
smoking causes cancer
information about the holocaust
mmr vaccines
quack medicines

and the people who parrot the we just have enough information about it line never really know anything much about the actual issue itself

so in this case it's encouraging a contrived controversy, and that "debate" makes it more acceptable to be anti-semitic, just like the debate about evolution makes it more acceptable to have creationist views because we just can't be certain and we'd better have both


ps this isn't meant to compare any of those things directly with hating the jew or anything, just the methods of denialism

Claiming that acknowledging the possibility of the exaggeration of holocaust death tolls is tantamount to holocaust denial is asinine and you should be ashamed.

Fallout you have always been one of my favourite forumers

And posts like this just go to show why

:oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:

Fallout

bongi wrote: »

I would say the average person doesn't care that much and possibly thinks America should get over itself?

oh, good

Goatmon

TheRealBadger wrote: »

Cosmic Sombrero wrote: »

The Holocaust was self-defense.

"You all saw it. They came at me with a knife"

They trespassed onto my fortified camp without permission, and broke into my mustard gas chamber. I have my rights!

Fallout

look man all these guys all just tripped and fell into our wall of man-sized furnaces. a few hundred times. today.

and "shower" is german for "deadly gases, do not enter" so it's not my fault these dudes didn't learn deutsch

where the fuck is slarti

L|ama

cherv1 wrote: »

here are some of examples of when ''healthy suspicion'' is drummed up to promote an agenda by claiming that we "just don't know enough" to come to a certain conclusion

global warming denialism
smoking causes cancer
information about the holocaust
mmr vaccines
quack medicines

and the people who parrot the we just have enough information about it line never really know anything much about the actual issue itself

so in this case it's encouraging a contrived controversy, and that "debate" makes it more acceptable to be anti-semitic, just like the debate about evolution makes it more acceptable to have creationist views because we just can't be certain and we'd better have both


ps this isn't meant to compare any of those things directly with hating the jew or anything, just the methods of denialism

Conversely, inflated figures make the plight of the palestinian people seem less significant in comparison, and their systematic fucking over is still going on.

Prolegomena

conversely?

L|ama

The opposite way, with a reversed relationship.

Jedoc

I only pay attention to conspiracy theories involving reptiloids and the hollow Earth. Anything else is too depressing.

Me Too!

I like the one that says the Earth is really flat
And there's like an ice wall at the south pole or something

Jedoc

I spent an entire weekend on that forum. I'm still about half certain that everyone there is fucking with everyone else.

Canada_jezus

There was this woman passing out some "re-open the 9/11 investigation" fliers around. I'm like "you're being silly,'

she: "Bush is a nazi!"

me: "Lose some weight,"

God she had awful awful legs. All covered in sores. In this town 50/50 she's on something

L|ama

Some of the local high school science teachers here have a flat earth society pisstake group. They mostly use it as another excuse to drink, as far as I understand.