Out of curiosity, has anyone thought to spray the barrel of a nerf gun with PAM or other kind of lubricant? I would figure that the plastic would be poreous enough to absorb it well and cause less friction, allowing the accuracy of a long barrell and still allowing good range.
Also, I'm sorely tempted to buy a nerf gun and paint it now. I've delved deep into Gundam models this year and the painting there-of, and there's just something awesome about making plastic look awesome.
Out of curiosity, do you guys sand the plastic before painting? And do you use primer first, or just paint straight colours on?
Does the foregrip slide on the real gun or is it just another hand hold? The only problem I see is that you are going to have to mod the clips to look lke the green hand guard thing
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Thanks. Yeah, I can't figure the pictures out, I've looked over the entire barrel assembly and its straight as can be. So no clue on that. I just used the upper barrel from the pistol attachment to craft the new barrel, so it can come on and off just as easily as the pistol could.
I think it looks droopy because of the blinds in the background, a sort of "optical illusion"
Thanks for all the proposals and such, its touching, I'm happily divorced, however. On to the Q&A.
For starters, the barrel may be crooked, I just can't find it in person.
As for getting rid of emblems and such, I scrape or cut them off with a hobby knife first, then sand, and finally scrape the sanded area with a hobby knife until its smooth again like the original plastic. ALWAYS prime your stuff.
I spray all my guns with nonstick cooking spray after trying several different lubricants, and it not only doesn't hurt the gun, it allows the barrels on the maverick to fly in and out and spin much nicer. Things just work more smoothly.
Jam.... I would glady give you half of my painting skills for half of your modding skills. Seriously. On a serious note, did you use both a primer and flat paint? More importantly, don't use cheap crap (99 cent walmart paint), though I'm not implying you are. For $3 a can, Krylon flat black and Krylon primer are some of the best paints you can use for this stuff.
I finally got the package this morning, huzzah! One of them rattles a bit, which is worrisome.
I picked up one of the Mavs, worked out how to load it, pulled the trigger. Nothing happens. Fiddle with it a while longer and find that the slide on top moves so I pull that back and try the trigger again.
Nothing happens.
Fucking cockfags.
Pick up the second one and try it. With a satisfying "crack", the dart goes flying into the wall 10m away. Thank god at least one of them works, and I empty the rest of the ammo into various pictures up on the walls. This wakes up my brother, who has been looking foward to this almost as much as I have. "Check this shit out, I say" and begin firing darts. I fire off 2 and then they stop coming out. It still produces the crack noise but no firing love.
Then I hear a rattle coming from the second Mav. It no longer works either.
Fucking cockfags.
So for about $70AU I got to fire 8 darts. How hard are these things to repair, or should I just get my money back? They were modded to remove the air restrictors and up until it broke the second Mav seemed to be working as described.
So basically, the symptoms are: Rattling inside and no air pressure coming when I cock it.
I finally got the package this morning, huzzah! One of them rattles a bit, which is worrisome.
I picked up one of the Mavs, worked out how to load it, pulled the trigger. Nothing happens. Fiddle with it a while longer and find that the slide on top moves so I pull that back and try the trigger again.
Nothing happens.
Fucking cockfags.
Pick up the second one and try it. With a satisfying "crack", the dart goes flying into the wall 10m away. Thank god at least one of them works, and I empty the rest of the ammo into various pictures up on the walls. This wakes up my brother, who has been looking foward to this almost as much as I have. "Check this shit out, I say" and begin firing darts. I fire off 2 and then they stop coming out. It still produces the crack noise but no firing love.
Then I hear a rattle coming from the second Mav. It no longer works either.
Fucking cockfags.
So for about $70AU I got to fire 8 darts. How hard are these things to repair, or should I just get my money back? They were modded to remove the air restrictors and up until it broke the second Mav seemed to be working as described.
So basically, the symptoms are: Rattling inside and no air pressure coming when I cock it.
Sounds like some plastic broke inside. I'd say crack 'em open, find any obvious breaks and replace them with metal parts. Either those were lemons to start with, were heavily used, or there's a stupid amount of pressure being placed on some parts that already undergo high amounts of stress.
I finally got the package this morning, huzzah! One of them rattles a bit, which is worrisome.
I picked up one of the Mavs, worked out how to load it, pulled the trigger. Nothing happens. Fiddle with it a while longer and find that the slide on top moves so I pull that back and try the trigger again.
Nothing happens.
Fucking cockfags.
Pick up the second one and try it. With a satisfying "crack", the dart goes flying into the wall 10m away. Thank god at least one of them works, and I empty the rest of the ammo into various pictures up on the walls. This wakes up my brother, who has been looking foward to this almost as much as I have. "Check this shit out, I say" and begin firing darts. I fire off 2 and then they stop coming out. It still produces the crack noise but no firing love.
Then I hear a rattle coming from the second Mav. It no longer works either.
Fucking cockfags.
So for about $70AU I got to fire 8 darts. How hard are these things to repair, or should I just get my money back? They were modded to remove the air restrictors and up until it broke the second Mav seemed to be working as described.
So basically, the symptoms are: Rattling inside and no air pressure coming when I cock it.
Sounds like some plastic broke inside. I'd say crack 'em open, find any obvious breaks and replace them with metal parts. Either those were lemons to start with, were heavily used, or there's a stupid amount of pressure being placed on some parts that already undergo high amounts of stress.
Update: We've got one fixed!
Basically, a pin had fallen out of the trigger mechanism up near the spring (the orange bits where one of them wraps around the spring).
Given that the other has the same symptoms, I'm guessing it's the same problem and was caused by rough handling on the trip over and the lack of protective packaging (they were just loose in the box). Given that me and my bro are real mechanical novices, we're quite proud that we managed to take apart this complex machine, fix it, and put it back together with no major problems at all.
The range is good enough so that we can have a real firefight, but the darts are not strong enough that they'll damage valuable stuff so we can have indoor shootouts. Perfect.
The range is good enough so that we can have a real firefight, but the darts are not strong enough that they'll damage valuable stuff so we can have indoor shootouts. Perfect.
It's never the darts. It's people jumping around and knocking things over.
The range is good enough so that we can have a real firefight, but the darts are not strong enough that they'll damage valuable stuff so we can have indoor shootouts. Perfect.
It's never the darts. It's people jumping around and knocking things over.
It can also be the darts, shooting people in the eye at close range when doing a sneak attack round the corner always hurts.
Mind you it's also absolutely hillarious when you shoot someone in the eye at a distance.
The range is good enough so that we can have a real firefight, but the darts are not strong enough that they'll damage valuable stuff so we can have indoor shootouts. Perfect.
It's never the darts. It's people jumping around and knocking things over.
It can also be the darts, shooting people in the eye at close range when doing a sneak attack round the corner always hurts.
Mind you it's also absolutely hillarious when you shoot someone in the eye at a distance.
I just got a horrible mental picture of a dart sticking to someones eye.
Thankfully I use modified taggers now
btw- I stole Aardvark's Idea of using the front gun attachment's barrel as a detachable barrel. I must say the improved accuracy trumps the loss of a few feet.
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Running around shirtless I've had the sticky thing attach to my chest, this then of course resulted in a teribly long and drawn out death animation.
Restrictor? Removed.
Spring? Removed so I can bring it to a hardware store and find a better one.
Crappy LED light? Removed.
Actual laser? I'm fucking adding one.
I thought about making the laser pointer sight an external attachment, but I realized that I already had a laser pointer that ran on 2 AAA's (3 volts) so it might be possible to actually house the laser inside the gun in place of the LED light, and have it powered by the gun's existing battery pack. After further research, it's totally possible.
I would have finished it tonight except my soldering iron is at my parents' house. That, and it's 3:00 in the morning.
The other part I must change is the spring. I was disappointed by hearing that the Maverick couldn't be spring-modded, but I definitely want to do it on this Nite Finder. What exactly am I looking for in a spring? Something larger that will be compressed more when it is squished inside the gun? Or something roughly the same size, but tighter? I'm guessing same size but tighter.
You're looking for something about the same size, but with more strength. I couldn't exactly tell you what that entails, I am not a spring expert. However, do know this: Stronger spring equals more stress on the parts that pull it back and hold it back. These will break faster, so you may have to replace parts of them with metal. I know one guy has an old Nerf gun(X-bow, I believe) where the innards are at least half metal because of this.
And on that note, do you know where I could find a very cheap, relatively low-power laser pointer? I need something that won't do too much damage to eyes if it accidently hits them, as there is a small child in this house and parents who will quite possibly kill me in my sleep if said child is blinded by my new laser sight. The easier it is to get the battery/batteries for it the better.
Also, the one I dismantled had a small adjustor piece that could be turned either direction with a small screwdriver, which focused the beam. Well, I don't know if that's the right term, but when I messed with it, it made the beam dimmer when it wasn't in the right spot. I'm not sure if this is something on all lasers as this is the first one I've dismantled (mine was a cheapo one as well) but if you see a piece like that, you might be able to dim it down a bit so it's less blinding.
Also, the one I dismantled had a small adjustor piece that could be turned either direction with a small screwdriver, which focused the beam. Well, I don't know if that's the right term, but when I messed with it, it made the beam dimmer when it wasn't in the right spot. I'm not sure if this is something on all lasers as this is the first one I've dismantled (mine was a cheapo one as well) but if you see a piece like that, you might be able to dim it down a bit so it's less blinding.
Hm, looks like that 13 dollar one might work...Was hoping these things were cheaper by now, though. Something about paying more for the laser than the damn gun doesn't sit too well with me. :P
Buy a Longshot and make a laser sight that connects where the scope usually goes. Then you could hook it on to any other N-Strike weapon as well. Also, the laser would be cheaper than the gun.
Buy a Longshot and make a laser sight that connects where the scope usually goes. Then you could hook it on to any other N-Strike weapon as well. Also, the laser would be cheaper than the gun.
I own a Longshot. I'm considering asking for a second one for Christmas so I can do the shotgun foregrip mod and the like, maybe toss in a new spring. It'd be my first successful mod if it actually worked, to be honest.
NOTE: grats on college lab computer logging me out for some reason after I had made a great post, causing me to lose said post. :x
So. I found several Nite Finder mods out there, but few that actually replaced the spring. The biggest improvements seem to be from adding a new barrel, and ensuring an airtight seal all the way through the plunger / firing system. I'll do that first before thinking about a new spring. I don't like the idea of things breaking inside my gun and needing to be replaced. I don't see myself being able to actually recreate and replace those little components-- I'd end up buying a new Nite Finder and cannibalizing it for parts.
Everything's still on track for adding an actual laser. My only concern is that once it's in there it won't be adjustable, and I don't know how accurate it's going to be. Regardless, I do know how awesome it's going to be: so awesome.
If I'm adding a new barrel it's time to think about custom darts again, because they should work with said barrel. I tried looking for foam at Home Depot, and I asked a couple people, but they didn't know what I was talking about. I forgot the name of the actual product by the time I got to the store, so knowing that next time would probably help.
I ended up finding some foam weatherstripping that was the right size and shape, and does indeed fit in modded guns, but it's way too light. It squishes rather easily, and is not as sturdy as the foam the stock darts are made of. Not as thick. In short, don't buy weatherstripping for custom darts. Get this stuff:
Due to surfing restrictions here at work I am having a hard time finding out if the Firefly needs the batteries to shoot or if it is just for the lights.
$15, free shipping in the US. 1/2 inch x 100 feet. At 2 inches per dart, that's 600 darts, or 2.5 cents per dart, assuming I already have the weights / hot glue... which I do.
Should I do it? My only hesitation is making sure that this really is the product I need. Closed cell foam backer rod. It seems right. I mean, I'm sure I could find *something* to do with 100 feet of a half-inch foam cylinder, if the darts don't work out. But I'd be disappointed.
I think I'm going to do the PVC shotgun mod on my LS. Just because it looks a whole lot easier than the all lexan version, and it looks alot cleaner aesthetically.
I went back and repainted one of my first paintjobs today, it just wasn't sitting right with me after I had gotten some better stuff under my belt. I cleaned it up a bit and tried to hit the details a bit more, but still stick with a really basic brushed metal. Anyways, its up for sale it anyone is interested, and if not, no hard feelings, I would hate to think I'm just whoring my stuff out here.
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I am beginning to think that there is nothing that you can't do man.
:^: :^:
Also, I'm sorely tempted to buy a nerf gun and paint it now. I've delved deep into Gundam models this year and the painting there-of, and there's just something awesome about making plastic look awesome.
Out of curiosity, do you guys sand the plastic before painting? And do you use primer first, or just paint straight colours on?
Aardvark reccomends sanding, so I would say sand away. I certainly wish to remove some of the logos on my guns before I paint them.
When painting things that are going to be handled a lot, priming isn't a suggestion, it's the law.
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no its crooked...
YES, YES! [/sean connery]
I think the Nite Finder is up next for me with a new spring, and then after that comes the Longshot, once I have money.
Speaking of me needing money, this is me whoring my new sig.
The NF with a new spring has 50+ feet in range. Add some bands to it (although ugly) and you an get at least 10 more feet)
For starters, the barrel may be crooked, I just can't find it in person.
As for getting rid of emblems and such, I scrape or cut them off with a hobby knife first, then sand, and finally scrape the sanded area with a hobby knife until its smooth again like the original plastic. ALWAYS prime your stuff.
I spray all my guns with nonstick cooking spray after trying several different lubricants, and it not only doesn't hurt the gun, it allows the barrels on the maverick to fly in and out and spin much nicer. Things just work more smoothly.
Jam.... I would glady give you half of my painting skills for half of your modding skills. Seriously. On a serious note, did you use both a primer and flat paint? More importantly, don't use cheap crap (99 cent walmart paint), though I'm not implying you are. For $3 a can, Krylon flat black and Krylon primer are some of the best paints you can use for this stuff.
I've heard mixed things about clearing over krylon's fusion stuff.
Thanks alot. I shall try and put all of this advice to good work this weekend.
I finally got the package this morning, huzzah! One of them rattles a bit, which is worrisome.
I picked up one of the Mavs, worked out how to load it, pulled the trigger. Nothing happens. Fiddle with it a while longer and find that the slide on top moves so I pull that back and try the trigger again.
Nothing happens.
Fucking cockfags.
Pick up the second one and try it. With a satisfying "crack", the dart goes flying into the wall 10m away. Thank god at least one of them works, and I empty the rest of the ammo into various pictures up on the walls. This wakes up my brother, who has been looking foward to this almost as much as I have. "Check this shit out, I say" and begin firing darts. I fire off 2 and then they stop coming out. It still produces the crack noise but no firing love.
Then I hear a rattle coming from the second Mav. It no longer works either.
Fucking cockfags.
So for about $70AU I got to fire 8 darts. How hard are these things to repair, or should I just get my money back? They were modded to remove the air restrictors and up until it broke the second Mav seemed to be working as described.
So basically, the symptoms are: Rattling inside and no air pressure coming when I cock it.
Up and ups put the kabosh on our nerf shenanigans.
:x
Sounds like some plastic broke inside. I'd say crack 'em open, find any obvious breaks and replace them with metal parts. Either those were lemons to start with, were heavily used, or there's a stupid amount of pressure being placed on some parts that already undergo high amounts of stress.
Update: We've got one fixed!
Basically, a pin had fallen out of the trigger mechanism up near the spring (the orange bits where one of them wraps around the spring).
Given that the other has the same symptoms, I'm guessing it's the same problem and was caused by rough handling on the trip over and the lack of protective packaging (they were just loose in the box). Given that me and my bro are real mechanical novices, we're quite proud that we managed to take apart this complex machine, fix it, and put it back together with no major problems at all.
The range is good enough so that we can have a real firefight, but the darts are not strong enough that they'll damage valuable stuff so we can have indoor shootouts. Perfect.
It's never the darts. It's people jumping around and knocking things over.
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Quoted for truth.
It can also be the darts, shooting people in the eye at close range when doing a sneak attack round the corner always hurts.
Mind you it's also absolutely hillarious when you shoot someone in the eye at a distance.
Satans..... hints.....
I just got a horrible mental picture of a dart sticking to someones eye.
Thankfully I use modified taggers now
btw- I stole Aardvark's Idea of using the front gun attachment's barrel as a detachable barrel. I must say the improved accuracy trumps the loss of a few feet.
And yes the suction cups in the eyes hurt
Satans..... hints.....
Of course, they've made them safer now.
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Duelling throughout the house is awesome, though. They're a lot more accurate than I thought they'd be.
Restrictor? Removed.
Spring? Removed so I can bring it to a hardware store and find a better one.
Crappy LED light? Removed.
Actual laser? I'm fucking adding one.
I thought about making the laser pointer sight an external attachment, but I realized that I already had a laser pointer that ran on 2 AAA's (3 volts) so it might be possible to actually house the laser inside the gun in place of the LED light, and have it powered by the gun's existing battery pack. After further research, it's totally possible.
I would have finished it tonight except my soldering iron is at my parents' house. That, and it's 3:00 in the morning.
The other part I must change is the spring. I was disappointed by hearing that the Maverick couldn't be spring-modded, but I definitely want to do it on this Nite Finder. What exactly am I looking for in a spring? Something larger that will be compressed more when it is squished inside the gun? Or something roughly the same size, but tighter? I'm guessing same size but tighter.
And on that note, do you know where I could find a very cheap, relatively low-power laser pointer? I need something that won't do too much damage to eyes if it accidently hits them, as there is a small child in this house and parents who will quite possibly kill me in my sleep if said child is blinded by my new laser sight. The easier it is to get the battery/batteries for it the better.
http://www.calpaclasers.com/laser_pointers.html (towards the bottom)
http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Standard-Laser-Pointer-Black/dp/B00006ID1S
Also, the one I dismantled had a small adjustor piece that could be turned either direction with a small screwdriver, which focused the beam. Well, I don't know if that's the right term, but when I messed with it, it made the beam dimmer when it wasn't in the right spot. I'm not sure if this is something on all lasers as this is the first one I've dismantled (mine was a cheapo one as well) but if you see a piece like that, you might be able to dim it down a bit so it's less blinding.
edit: never mind my edits
Hm, looks like that 13 dollar one might work...Was hoping these things were cheaper by now, though. Something about paying more for the laser than the damn gun doesn't sit too well with me. :P
I own a Longshot. I'm considering asking for a second one for Christmas so I can do the shotgun foregrip mod and the like, maybe toss in a new spring. It'd be my first successful mod if it actually worked, to be honest.
So. I found several Nite Finder mods out there, but few that actually replaced the spring. The biggest improvements seem to be from adding a new barrel, and ensuring an airtight seal all the way through the plunger / firing system. I'll do that first before thinking about a new spring. I don't like the idea of things breaking inside my gun and needing to be replaced. I don't see myself being able to actually recreate and replace those little components-- I'd end up buying a new Nite Finder and cannibalizing it for parts.
Everything's still on track for adding an actual laser. My only concern is that once it's in there it won't be adjustable, and I don't know how accurate it's going to be. Regardless, I do know how awesome it's going to be: so awesome.
If I'm adding a new barrel it's time to think about custom darts again, because they should work with said barrel. I tried looking for foam at Home Depot, and I asked a couple people, but they didn't know what I was talking about. I forgot the name of the actual product by the time I got to the store, so knowing that next time would probably help.
I ended up finding some foam weatherstripping that was the right size and shape, and does indeed fit in modded guns, but it's way too light. It squishes rather easily, and is not as sturdy as the foam the stock darts are made of. Not as thick. In short, don't buy weatherstripping for custom darts. Get this stuff:
Foam Backer Rod or Caulk Saver.
http://nerfworld.com/mods/stefans.htm
I am going to print this page out and hand it to the Home Depot people.
Can anyone let me know.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Round-Closed-Cell-Backer-Rod-Free-Shipping_W0QQitemZ200006283808QQihZ010QQcategoryZ20594QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
$15, free shipping in the US. 1/2 inch x 100 feet. At 2 inches per dart, that's 600 darts, or 2.5 cents per dart, assuming I already have the weights / hot glue... which I do.
Should I do it? My only hesitation is making sure that this really is the product I need. Closed cell foam backer rod. It seems right. I mean, I'm sure I could find *something* to do with 100 feet of a half-inch foam cylinder, if the darts don't work out. But I'd be disappointed.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190047763746
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst