The twist is pretty nice, but this whole Civil War thing is getting a bit dull and repetitive. After the borefest of #5, I'd like Millar to quit dickin' around with meaningless minutiae and reusing material from previous issues and tie-ins. Seriously, I think I've read the same talking points and saw the scenes about a billion times, what with collecting this entire shebang.
Where Infinite Crisis stumbled by trying to do too much, Civil War is marred by doing too little. But, I'm still excited for #7 since it's delivering what I've been waiting for all along - a real battle royale. Unfortunately, the Mighty Avengers preview kind of sours some of the suspense.
I actually enjoy the Cable parts, the whole savior thing is interesting.
Dystopian soldier becomes utopian leader. Yawn. Cable isn't a character - he's a marketing gimmick that got turned into an endless reclamation project.
I actually enjoy the Cable parts, the whole savior thing is interesting.
Dystopian soldier becomes utopian leader. Yawn. Cable isn't a character - he's a marketing gimmick that got turned into an endless reclamation project.
Could be worse, though.
Could be Ultimate Cable.
God help me, but I like Ultimate Cable. I mean, he's not really who he is and who he really is is a nice, weird mash-up of '90s X-Men icons. I guess it doesn't hurt that Ben Oliver is really selling this arc with his awesome art, either.
Shit shit, Terrorbyte's back.
Now we have two of them.
I didn't realize that reasoned criticism was somehow an exclusive trait.
I actually enjoy the Cable parts, the whole savior thing is interesting.
Dystopian soldier becomes utopian leader. Yawn. Cable isn't a character - he's a marketing gimmick that got turned into an endless reclamation project.
Could be worse, though.
Could be Ultimate Cable.
God help me, but I like Ultimate Cable. I mean, he's not really who he is and who he really is is a nice, weird mash-up of '90s X-Men icons. I guess it doesn't hurt that Ben Oliver is really selling this arc with his awesome art, either.
[spoiler:f971243887]But we appear to have reached maximum Wolverine-saturation point. Not only is he in every book, he's in it twice[/spoiler:f971243887]
I actually enjoy the Cable parts, the whole savior thing is interesting.
Dystopian soldier becomes utopian leader. Yawn. Cable isn't a character - he's a marketing gimmick that got turned into an endless reclamation project.
Could be worse, though.
Could be Ultimate Cable.
God help me, but I like Ultimate Cable. I mean, he's not really who he is and who he really is is a nice, weird mash-up of '90s X-Men icons. I guess it doesn't hurt that Ben Oliver is really selling this arc with his awesome art, either.
Shit shit, Terrorbyte's back.
Now we have two of them.
I didn't realize that reasoned criticism was somehow an exclusive trait.
I actually enjoy the Cable parts, the whole savior thing is interesting.
Dystopian soldier becomes utopian leader. Yawn. Cable isn't a character - he's a marketing gimmick that got turned into an endless reclamation project.
Could be worse, though.
Could be Ultimate Cable.
God help me, but I like Ultimate Cable. I mean, he's not really who he is and who he really is is a nice, weird mash-up of '90s X-Men icons. I guess it doesn't hurt that Ben Oliver is really selling this arc with his awesome art, either.
[spoiler:abaa24543f]But we appear to have reached maximum Wolverine-saturation point. Not only is he in every book, he's in it twice[/spoiler:abaa24543f]
Which is why it's awesome that Ultimate Cable pisses off [spoiler:abaa24543f]you know who's[/spoiler:abaa24543f] fans. It's an idea so awful that it's awesome.
I actually enjoy the Cable parts, the whole savior thing is interesting.
Dystopian soldier becomes utopian leader. Yawn. Cable isn't a character - he's a marketing gimmick that got turned into an endless reclamation project.
Could be worse, though.
Could be Ultimate Cable.
God help me, but I like Ultimate Cable. I mean, he's not really who he is and who he really is is a nice, weird mash-up of '90s X-Men icons. I guess it doesn't hurt that Ben Oliver is really selling this arc with his awesome art, either.
[spoiler:39c8885c73]But we appear to have reached maximum Wolverine-saturation point. Not only is he in every book, he's in it twice[/spoiler:39c8885c73]
Which is why it's awesome that Ultimate Cable pisses off [spoiler:39c8885c73]you know who's[/spoiler:39c8885c73] fans. It's an idea so awful that it's awesome.
You may want to reread this page and reconsider who exactly is sounding stupid here.
and fanboyism
Yeah, I guess I'm collecting the entire event out of spite and only criticized Infinite Crisis to cover my Marvel-hatin', DC-lovin' tracks.
that makes Hensler
Who? Actually, I don't care who. Stop making dumb personal attacks, jerk.
Response to the above: Track Record.
Back on topic, why the hell [spoiler:a3fdf8091b]is Sue going to Namor? It's not like she doesn't fucking know that telling Namor "Dude we totally need your help everyone topside is crazy and killing each other" won't make him want to attack the surface.
Or did she suddenly become retarded?[/spoiler:a3fdf8091b]
why the hell [spoiler:4adc2d982f]is Sue going to Namor?[/spoiler:4adc2d982f]
Because:
1. [spoiler:4adc2d982f]He's dang powerful and a pretty huge asset to have on your side in a fight. She's going there with Cap's permission, if it wasn't his idea in the first place.[/spoiler:4adc2d982f]
2. [spoiler:4adc2d982f]She knows that he wants to jump her bones, so there's a chance she might just woo him with her feminine charms alone. Oh, and then there's that whole wacky Atlantean conspiracy thingamabob thing over in Wolverine.[/spoiler:4adc2d982f]
3. [spoiler:4adc2d982f]The dude pretty much hates Reed and Iron Man, especially after all that Illuminati business, and isn't really shy about it. Namor is in a tug of war about not giving a shit and hating on dudes, like always.[/spoiler:4adc2d982f]
Well, I hope you appreciate the fact that you're calling me out for being a psychotic fanboy moron in an instance where I'm clearly not, while you manage to sound like a rude idiot.
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It's kinda funny.
Because of the delays it now looks like CW 50 state inititive is a rip off of 52's Everyman Project.
Because of the delays it now looks like CW 50 state inititive is a rip off of 52's Everyman Project.
Speaking of the 50 State Initiative and 52, I wonder if the former will be Marvel's weekly book focusing on each state's team with prologue and epilogue bookends?
Is a weekly Marvel book still an unconfirmed rumor or have they been dropping any serious hints lately?
Because of the delays it now looks like CW 50 state inititive is a rip off of 52's Everyman Project.
Speaking of the 50 State Initiative and 52, I wonder if the former will be Marvel's weekly book focusing on each state's team with prologue and epilogue bookends?
Is a weekly Marvel book still an unconfirmed rumor or have they been dropping any serious hints lately?
If by hints, you mean Quesada saying flat out that they are not doing a weekly series, then yes.
Because of the delays it now looks like CW 50 state inititive is a rip off of 52's Everyman Project.
Speaking of the 50 State Initiative and 52, I wonder if the former will be Marvel's weekly book focusing on each state's team with prologue and epilogue bookends?
Is a weekly Marvel book still an unconfirmed rumor or have they been dropping any serious hints lately?
If by hints, you mean Quesada saying flat out that they are not doing a weekly series, then yes.
seeing how they can't do a regular series without delays, this is a good call.
Does anyone know how many people are going to be on the teams for each state? Or will it vary?
It won't be state size. It'd be insane to give Alaska more superheroes than West Virginia or Connecticut.
The latter because I want my goddamn state to have some fucking heroes. Speedball and Green Goblin are the only people from this state, and Goblins from fucking Hartford.
Does anyone know how many people are going to be on the teams for each state? Or will it vary?
It won't be state size. It'd be insane to give Alaska more superheroes than West Virginia or Connecticut.
The latter because I want my goddamn state to have some fucking heroes. Speedball and Green Goblin are the only people from this state, and Goblins from fucking Hartford.
Fuck that.
Didn't the real American government allocate funds for anti-terror measures to states based on size rather than the actual likelihood of their being attacked?
Does anyone know how many people are going to be on the teams for each state? Or will it vary?
It won't be state size. It'd be insane to give Alaska more superheroes than West Virginia or Connecticut.
The latter because I want my goddamn state to have some fucking heroes. Speedball and Green Goblin are the only people from this state, and Goblins from fucking Hartford.
Fuck that.
Didn't the real American government allocate funds for anti-terror measures to states based on size rather than the actual likelihood of their being attacked?
It was based on the number of landmarks that a state claimed to have. There was actually a news story about how some state like nebraska got more funding than new york, since they claimed basically every gas station in the state as a potential terror target.
It was pretty funny, actually....
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Benjamin Franklin used foil covered window glass to create a capacitor. He then attempted to kill a turkey with the stored charge. Instead, he knocked himself out. Franklin later wrote, "I tried to kill a turkey but nearly succeeded in killing a goose."
This is CW related, so I thought I'd pass it along: http://www.examiner.com/a-487327%7EYeas_and_Nays__Wednesday__Jan__3.html. It's got some spoilers, but nothing that you shouldn't know already. It's a short commentary about Spidey (verbally) attacking Bush by way of criticizing the SHRA. This is kinda in line with what people have been saying is the transparent parallelism between the CW and the war on terror.
What purpose does this bitching serve? Late books suck, but there are oftentimes fairly good reasons for late books. Trying to determine which company sucks more or less, based on how many late books they have had in the last three years or whatever is the kind of stupidity that reminds of the Newsarama forums or GameFAQs. Come on guys, we are better than that stupid middle school shit.
What purpose does this bitching serve? Late books suck, but there are oftentimes fairly good reasons for late books. Trying to determine which company sucks more or less, based on how many late books they have had in the last three years or whatever is the kind of stupidity that reminds of the Newsarama forums or GameFAQs. Come on guys, we are better than that stupid middle school shit.
This is CW related, so I thought I'd pass it along: http://www.examiner.com/a-487327%7EYeas_and_Nays__Wednesday__Jan__3.html. It's got some spoilers, but nothing that you shouldn't know already. It's a short commentary about Spidey (verbally) attacking Bush by way of criticizing the SHRA. This is kinda in line with what people have been saying is the transparent parallelism between the CW and the war on terror.
See now I'm getting confused......because in the Cable and Deadpool Tie ins Cable goes and tells the President to stop being a douchebag in the nicest terms possible. The problem is that the guy he's talking to isn't Bush by any stretch of the imagination. The President being drawn looks nothing like Bush shown on the screen in Providence in the earlier isses with Wade going more or less "Hey George, what's up?"
So is it Bush or isn't it, and why do some of these writers/artists have to be such complete douchebags and insert their own personal opinion into things like a comic book and pass it off and full and complete fact?
This is CW related, so I thought I'd pass it along: http://www.examiner.com/a-487327%7EYeas_and_Nays__Wednesday__Jan__3.html. It's got some spoilers, but nothing that you shouldn't know already. It's a short commentary about Spidey (verbally) attacking Bush by way of criticizing the SHRA. This is kinda in line with what people have been saying is the transparent parallelism between the CW and the war on terror.
See now I'm getting confused......because in the Cable and Deadpool Tie ins Cable goes and tells the President to stop being a douchebag in the nicest terms possible. The problem is that the guy he's talking to isn't Bush by any stretch of the imagination. The President being drawn looks nothing like Bush shown on the screen in Providence in the earlier isses with Wade going more or less "Hey George, what's up?"
So is it Bush or isn't it, and why do some of these writers/artists have to be such complete douchebags and insert their own personal opinion into things like a comic book and pass it off and full and complete fact?
This might have to do with Bush being the president in the Marvel Universe at this moment. It's not douchebaggery if you're just drawing the reality of the situation. If I'm wrong about Bush being the Prez in Marvel, please correct me.
This is CW related, so I thought I'd pass it along: http://www.examiner.com/a-487327%7EYeas_and_Nays__Wednesday__Jan__3.html. It's got some spoilers, but nothing that you shouldn't know already. It's a short commentary about Spidey (verbally) attacking Bush by way of criticizing the SHRA. This is kinda in line with what people have been saying is the transparent parallelism between the CW and the war on terror.
See now I'm getting confused......because in the Cable and Deadpool Tie ins Cable goes and tells the President to stop being a douchebag in the nicest terms possible. The problem is that the guy he's talking to isn't Bush by any stretch of the imagination. The President being drawn looks nothing like Bush shown on the screen in Providence in the earlier isses with Wade going more or less "Hey George, what's up?"
So is it Bush or isn't it, and why do some of these writers/artists have to be such complete douchebags and insert their own personal opinion into things like a comic book and pass it off and full and complete fact?
This might have to do with Bush being the president in the Marvel Universe at this moment. It's not douchebaggery if you're just drawing the reality of the situation. If I'm wrong about Bush being the Prez in Marvel, please correct me.
I think Bush is in the Marvel U, but some comics are putting a different guy in for some reason. I guess my point is some of the writers are trying to shove some of their own opinion onto the situation and pass it off as fact to bash this particular President and younger readers wouldn't know the difference.
They wouldn't dare do the same thing to Gore or Kerry (since it runs counter to their motivation), and I could have sworn that there was a huge majority voting for the act since -all- the politicians wanted to deflect attention from their terrible performance. So -now- all they can do is go "The Democrats voted for the Act before they voted against it" to try and paint the people with a little D next to their name in a good light. If anything the House and Senate were a great deal more responsible.
I just don't see why they stuck a different guy in as President when Cable confronts him and it's apparent the President is a douchebag. If you're going to go "Rarr Bush is the real terrorist!" then have the balls to go all the way with it.
This is CW related, so I thought I'd pass it along: http://www.examiner.com/a-487327%7EYeas_and_Nays__Wednesday__Jan__3.html. It's got some spoilers, but nothing that you shouldn't know already. It's a short commentary about Spidey (verbally) attacking Bush by way of criticizing the SHRA. This is kinda in line with what people have been saying is the transparent parallelism between the CW and the war on terror.
See now I'm getting confused......because in the Cable and Deadpool Tie ins Cable goes and tells the President to stop being a douchebag in the nicest terms possible. The problem is that the guy he's talking to isn't Bush by any stretch of the imagination. The President being drawn looks nothing like Bush shown on the screen in Providence in the earlier isses with Wade going more or less "Hey George, what's up?"
So is it Bush or isn't it, and why do some of these writers/artists have to be such complete douchebags and insert their own personal opinion into things like a comic book and pass it off and full and complete fact?
This might have to do with Bush being the president in the Marvel Universe at this moment. It's not douchebaggery if you're just drawing the reality of the situation. If I'm wrong about Bush being the Prez in Marvel, please correct me.
I think Bush is in the Marvel U, but some comics are putting a different guy in for some reason. I guess my point is some of the writers are trying to shove some of their own opinion onto the situation and pass it off as fact to bash this particular President and younger readers wouldn't know the difference.
They wouldn't dare do the same thing to Gore or Kerry (since it runs counter to their motivation), and I could have sworn that there was a huge majority voting for the act since -all- the politicians wanted to deflect attention from their terrible performance. So -now- all they can do is go "The Democrats voted for the Act before they voted against it" to try and paint the people with a little D next to their name in a good light. If anything the House and Senate were a great deal more responsible.
I just don't see why they stuck a different guy in as President when Cable confronts him and it's apparent the President is a douchebag. If you're going to go "Rarr Bush is the real terrorist!" then have the balls to go all the way with it.
I agree
Do I agree with some of the writers views? Sure
But I don't want peoples view constantly shoved down my throat no matter how much I agree with them
This is CW related, so I thought I'd pass it along: http://www.examiner.com/a-487327%7EYeas_and_Nays__Wednesday__Jan__3.html. It's got some spoilers, but nothing that you shouldn't know already. It's a short commentary about Spidey (verbally) attacking Bush by way of criticizing the SHRA. This is kinda in line with what people have been saying is the transparent parallelism between the CW and the war on terror.
See now I'm getting confused......because in the Cable and Deadpool Tie ins Cable goes and tells the President to stop being a douchebag in the nicest terms possible. The problem is that the guy he's talking to isn't Bush by any stretch of the imagination. The President being drawn looks nothing like Bush shown on the screen in Providence in the earlier isses with Wade going more or less "Hey George, what's up?"
So is it Bush or isn't it, and why do some of these writers/artists have to be such complete douchebags and insert their own personal opinion into things like a comic book and pass it off and full and complete fact?
It's definitely bush in the Civil War Cable/Deadpool issues.
The reason he looks different is because there's a different artist.
Posts
Now we have two of them.
God help me, but I like Ultimate Cable. I mean, he's not really who he is and who he really is is a nice, weird mash-up of '90s X-Men icons. I guess it doesn't hurt that Ben Oliver is really selling this arc with his awesome art, either.
I didn't realize that reasoned criticism was somehow an exclusive trait.
[spoiler:f971243887]But we appear to have reached maximum Wolverine-saturation point. Not only is he in every book, he's in it twice[/spoiler:f971243887]
It's not.
What YOU do, however, is.
Which is why it's awesome that Ultimate Cable pisses off [spoiler:abaa24543f]you know who's[/spoiler:abaa24543f] fans. It's an idea so awful that it's awesome.
What is it that I do exactly? You know, aside from sharing a critical yet even-handed opinion about a comic book?
Nice work on capitalizing for emphasis, though. At least that post had some merit.
Stupidity and fanboyism that makes Hensler look like Reed fucking Richards.
You may want to reread this page and reconsider who exactly is sounding stupid here.
Yeah, I guess I'm collecting the entire event out of spite and only criticized Infinite Crisis to cover my Marvel-hatin', DC-lovin' tracks.
Who? Actually, I don't care who. Stop making dumb personal attacks, jerk.
Response to the above: Track Record.
Back on topic, why the hell [spoiler:a3fdf8091b]is Sue going to Namor? It's not like she doesn't fucking know that telling Namor "Dude we totally need your help everyone topside is crazy and killing each other" won't make him want to attack the surface.
Or did she suddenly become retarded?[/spoiler:a3fdf8091b]
Because:
1. [spoiler:4adc2d982f]He's dang powerful and a pretty huge asset to have on your side in a fight. She's going there with Cap's permission, if it wasn't his idea in the first place.[/spoiler:4adc2d982f]
2. [spoiler:4adc2d982f]She knows that he wants to jump her bones, so there's a chance she might just woo him with her feminine charms alone. Oh, and then there's that whole wacky Atlantean conspiracy thingamabob thing over in Wolverine.[/spoiler:4adc2d982f]
3. [spoiler:4adc2d982f]The dude pretty much hates Reed and Iron Man, especially after all that Illuminati business, and isn't really shy about it. Namor is in a tug of war about not giving a shit and hating on dudes, like always.[/spoiler:4adc2d982f]
She probably realized it was a long shot, anyway.
Well, I hope you appreciate the fact that you're calling me out for being a psychotic fanboy moron in an instance where I'm clearly not, while you manage to sound like a rude idiot.
Because of the delays it now looks like CW 50 state inititive is a rip off of 52's Everyman Project.
Speaking of the 50 State Initiative and 52, I wonder if the former will be Marvel's weekly book focusing on each state's team with prologue and epilogue bookends?
Is a weekly Marvel book still an unconfirmed rumor or have they been dropping any serious hints lately?
Gamertag: PrimusD | Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
Dibs on the Connecticut book. Because all the heroes would save people all over East Hartford and Manchester, etc.
But then they get to Glastonbury and Avon(the "rich" towns) and make them pay before saving them.
[spoiler:cce724ce19]Great Lakes Champions[/spoiler:cce724ce19]
My bizarre obsession with them continues.
That's an easy one, though.
Does anyone know how many people are going to be on the teams for each state? Or will it vary?
Gamertag: PrimusD | Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
If by hints, you mean Quesada saying flat out that they are not doing a weekly series, then yes.
seeing how they can't do a regular series without delays, this is a good call.
What a shame. I'm really enjoying the weekly format with 52.
How long did Daredevil: Father take to finish again?
It won't be state size. It'd be insane to give Alaska more superheroes than West Virginia or Connecticut.
The latter because I want my goddamn state to have some fucking heroes. Speedball and Green Goblin are the only people from this state, and Goblins from fucking Hartford.
Fuck that.
Seeing as how Chicago is here and all.
Actually, if all that came out of Civil War was a good book set in Chicago, I'd be happy.
It was based on the number of landmarks that a state claimed to have. There was actually a news story about how some state like nebraska got more funding than new york, since they claimed basically every gas station in the state as a potential terror target.
It was pretty funny, actually....
Not anywhere near as bad though
They have nothing that could top DD: Father, Ultimate Hulk/Wolverine, and the Kevin "Hack" Smith books
uh, no we're not
neener neener
See now I'm getting confused......because in the Cable and Deadpool Tie ins Cable goes and tells the President to stop being a douchebag in the nicest terms possible. The problem is that the guy he's talking to isn't Bush by any stretch of the imagination. The President being drawn looks nothing like Bush shown on the screen in Providence in the earlier isses with Wade going more or less "Hey George, what's up?"
So is it Bush or isn't it, and why do some of these writers/artists have to be such complete douchebags and insert their own personal opinion into things like a comic book and pass it off and full and complete fact?
This might have to do with Bush being the president in the Marvel Universe at this moment. It's not douchebaggery if you're just drawing the reality of the situation. If I'm wrong about Bush being the Prez in Marvel, please correct me.
I think Bush is in the Marvel U, but some comics are putting a different guy in for some reason. I guess my point is some of the writers are trying to shove some of their own opinion onto the situation and pass it off as fact to bash this particular President and younger readers wouldn't know the difference.
They wouldn't dare do the same thing to Gore or Kerry (since it runs counter to their motivation), and I could have sworn that there was a huge majority voting for the act since -all- the politicians wanted to deflect attention from their terrible performance. So -now- all they can do is go "The Democrats voted for the Act before they voted against it" to try and paint the people with a little D next to their name in a good light. If anything the House and Senate were a great deal more responsible.
I just don't see why they stuck a different guy in as President when Cable confronts him and it's apparent the President is a douchebag. If you're going to go "Rarr Bush is the real terrorist!" then have the balls to go all the way with it.
I agree
Do I agree with some of the writers views? Sure
But I don't want peoples view constantly shoved down my throat no matter how much I agree with them
Also, all white rich people are evil in Civil War
[spoiler:be4611ff08]Mark Millar licks goats [/spoiler:be4611ff08]
I love that movie.
Not really related to Civil War, I guess.
Matt Murdock's plenty rich. Danny Rand, too.
At least there's no "Dondi" in Civil War.
$3.50 to basically see a splash page. Frontline was good though. As was Punisher.
Of course, of the members who aren't on another team already, only two actually have Wiki articles.
Gamertag: PrimusD | Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
It's definitely bush in the Civil War Cable/Deadpool issues.
The reason he looks different is because there's a different artist.
See also Civil War #1.
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