Google Chrome: Google builds an OPERATING SYSTEM! (p34)

Zxerol

In Vista with Aeroglass, main UI window and border is actually rendered in translucent glass, exactly how IE7/8 does, which could be a good or bad thing depending on your preferences. I think that looks a bit better than the cutesy blue in XP/non-Aeroglass.

One major miff though: The program insists on installing straight into Application Data. Really? Seriously? That's ridiculous, and there doesn't seem to be a way to alter the install path. Bizarro.

FyreWulff

That means it's stuff gets backed up by System Restore. And allows user-specific settings and installs instead of Firefox's stupid and useless Profiles system that's left over from windows 95.

And all other Google stuff goes there too.

Akinos

Well, that comic is wonderful, and this browser is pretty damned impressive already.

Nibble

strebalicious wrote: »

So for a Beta, I guess it's working alright.

I am having major problems with flash type stuff. Example: games on kongregate.com. I've gotten some hella freeze-age on it. Now, I was under the impression that a fault in one tab wouldn't mess the other ones. Guess that doesn't apply when it messes up the entire system as I couldn't do anything when I got these slow downs. Not other tabs, not other windows, not other programs.

Is it with all games, or only some? Does it happen immediately? I loaded a random game from that site (Arachnophilia), and it's working fine for me.

ben0207

Fort any other Facebook users, do they find the popup menus don't work anymore? Like, for adding a friend?

Pheezer

Darmak wrote: »

Lucky Cynic wrote: »

I seriously just hope that Chrome picks up a lot of speed like all other Google apps and fun stuff, but DOES NOT END UP IN BETA FOREVER.

Fucking Gmail has been in 'beta' for years. >_>;

I thought Gmail wasn't in beta anymore?

edit: just checked, it is. I'll be damned, it HAS been in beta for forever. Oh well, it's still my primary e-mail address.

It's hard to believe that they'd provide that as a "finished product" for free. The public version will always be beta. They'll probably roll out a subscription based enterprise mail management solution that allows large organizations to replace their internal mail management with Google's management. It could be pretty lucrative on its own, but especially if they're trying to push software as a service? They'll tie google Apps to it and make a bundled deal as soon as they work out the kinks, and present it as a plug and play alternative to MS Office/Outlook.

Cyvros

ben0207 wrote: »

Fort any other Facebook users, do they find the popup menus don't work anymore? Like, for adding a friend?

Nope, but the menus on this forum don't work anymore.

Suds

Can't install at work because I'm behind a proxy.

I'll have to bring this laptop home to install it.

Jasconius

meatflower wrote: »

Right now my only complaint is the powder blue menu bar color.

I mean c'mon 0-day beta, gimme some user mods for crying out loud!

This is going to take some time.

That's only because of XP.

In Vista with a black shell, no transparency, it looks great.

Dark Shroud

To any coders here, could the V8 JS engine be taken and added to Firefox as an addon?

ben0207

Not as an addon but with a bit of work as a development branch, yeah.

The next Safari has something which works differently but with similar JS performance gains (google Squirrelfish)

Idoliside

This Chrome is quite nice, takes a bit of getting used to.
Had to attach my bookmark thing to the top, bit annoying but done now. I do like the "new tab" interface where it shows your previous websites. Useful.

Airan

I think that, in it's current state, this is a speedy browser. But right now it's sorely lacking features that I use often in Opera, such as panels, and MDI, to not have this as my main browser. I can't look at my Opera setup now after I looked at Chrome, it's so cluttered

LoneIgadzra

FyreWulff wrote: »

they can't seperate out plugins. in the comic it is explained that plugins are off in thier own process, so i guess if Flash goes down, it goes down in all tabs.

Yeah, Flash is pretty terrible in this browser regardless though. It basically just freezes a lot. I also seem to get whole application sieze ups at random times not having to do with flash, which is a bit disappointing.

Also, don't mind the XP blue crew checking in; it matches my visual style.

Lord Jezo

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

Faricazy

Lord Jezo wrote: »

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

I hate you.

DigDug2000

Dark Shroud wrote: »

To any coders here, could the V8 JS engine be taken and added to Firefox as an addon?

I'm pretty sure that you could build a Gecko based browser that used V8 (theres been a ton of work at Mozilla to make it easy to change in and out the engine), but I don't think it'd be easy to do through an extension. That said, all of the benchmarks for FF3.1 with tracing vs. V8 show that they're pretty much neck and neck. V8's fast at a few things. Tamarin Tracing is faster at others. Both will probably keep speeding up.

Recoil42

ben0207 wrote: »

Not as an addon but with a bit of work as a development branch, yeah.

The next Safari has something which works differently but with similar JS performance gains (google Squirrelfish)

Not even close. TraceMonkey is something like 150% faster than SquirrelFish (what the hell is with these names, devs?), and it doesn't even come close to touching V8.

Zetx

Lord Jezo wrote: »

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

Open source, etc etc

My sarcasm meter is off this early in the morning

Suds

Lord Jezo wrote: »

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

Seems like a lot of work to figure out that we spend a lot of time looking at pictures and videos of naked ladies.

Legba

Suds wrote: »

Lord Jezo wrote: »

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

Seems like a lot of work to figure out that we spend a lot of time looking at pictures and videos of naked ladies.

Also: State secrets. I don't know about you, but I totally used Chrome to hack the NSA. Like, twice.

Recoil42

Huh, I take it back. Reading the morning blogs, the guys writing Tracemonkey put up a comparison this morning, it appears TraceMonkey is currently AHEAD of V8.

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roadmap/archives/2008/09/tracemonkey_update.html

I'll have to check again tonight myself. It might just be the tests they're using. Apparently V8 is much faster at binary tree access and recursion, so that could be throwing it off, if they're using tests that don't involve that.

Cyvros

Lord Jezo wrote: »

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

The hell?

Legba wrote: »

Also: State secrets. I don't know about you, but I totally used Chrome to hack the NSA. Like, twice.

Indeed. Did you all not realise that PA is merely a front? What for, I have no idea.

ArcSyn

Running Chrome now. I missed when they put up the download Monday or Tuesday.

First Impressions: I like how it's instantly compact. Firefox I had to customize it after install to get it down to the the title bar and address bar with menus and all buttons with it. Then a third bar would come up for tabs. Chrome loads with tabs as the title bar and everything compacted into the address bar (Omnibar!). So that's an instant plus.

We shall see how well it does.

Daedalus

Lord Jezo wrote: »

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

Groan. Come on, people. Everyone knows that the CIA doesn't spy on American citizens. That's the NSA's job.

(besides, if you wrap the Chrome tab bar in tinfoil, they can't see what you're doing!)

ArcSyn

Ok, been using it for a few minutes and already thought of a few things:

Plus: I love the popup "link target" in the bottom. It doesn't require a bar to always be there, but still lets you see where that link it going to take you.

Minus: No Adblock Plus!!! I see ads.
Google is funded by ads, I fear for the future of my eyes/ears.

wunderbar

so day 2 of Chrome, and I'm still using it. was not even hesitant to launch it today.

After an hour of using it on day 2, I find that there is no "hangover" where after one day of going ZOMG AWESOME the next day reality sets in and you realize it sucks. It's definitly not ZOMG AWESOME. But I still really like it.

That I think, is a telling sign.

I also read a news story(can't remember the link sorry) that chrome had 3% market share yesterday. That's a lot of people grabbing chrome on day one. I don'e expect it to stay at 3% right now, but that's kinda funny that in essentially 12 hours it about doubled the market share of Opera, at least for one day.

Cyvros

This is merely out of curiosity: if you build Chrome by yourself (without any mods), would you still be subject to the EULA?

Darmak

Daedalus wrote: »

Lord Jezo wrote: »

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

Groan. Come on, people. Everyone knows that the CIA doesn't spy on American citizens. That's the NSA's job.

(besides, if you wrap the Chrome tab bar in tinfoil, they can't see what you're doing!)

jonxp

Cyvros wrote: »

This is merely out of curiosity: if you build Chrome by yourself (without any mods), would you still be subject to the EULA?

Nope.

Cyvros

jonxp wrote: »

Cyvros wrote: »

This is merely out of curiosity: if you build Chrome by yourself (without any mods), would you still be subject to the EULA?

Nope.

Haha, brilliant.

LoneIgadzra

Lord Jezo wrote: »

I have started to hear more about Chrome being a tool for the CIA to track our every day browsing habits.

Because of the scandal of Google being started with CIA seed money and the relationship between the two organizations there is no way that Chrome will lose the browser battle because it will slowly become a standard backed by the US government and use by the public will be completely accepted. This will then feed information into the growing database of public citizen information and the CIA will finally have a complete picture of all that we do online.

Thoughts? Maybe we should not use Chrome if we want to remain free peoples.

A for effort but I've seen better trolls

Zell

Full page zoom and autoscroll are in WebKit nightlies, so there's hope for that if Google Chrome keeps WebKit updated.

jonxp

Hrmm. My laptop's scroll pad only scrolls down and right. Going the opposite directions does nothing. That's annoying.

Yorker

Woo, i just got myself a new browser, this is great.

Nightslyr

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but a vulnerability has already been found: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1843

RichardTauber

Uhm, I would be using Chrome if it had a google search-bar... I haven't seen any screenshots with that particular feature which is ironic. So I guess my question is: is there a way to get a firefox-style google search-bar in chrome?

Nightslyr

RichardTauber wrote: »

Uhm, I would be using Chrome if it had a google search-bar... I haven't seen any screenshots with that particular feature which is ironic. So I guess my question is: is there a way to get a firefox-style google search-bar in chrome?

The omnibar is both search bar and address bar.

Daedalus

RichardTauber wrote: »

Uhm, I would be using Chrome if it had a google search-bar... I haven't seen any screenshots with that particular feature which is ironic. So I guess my question is: is there a way to get a firefox-style google search-bar in chrome?

It's built into the address bar. That's the whole point.

Cyvros

RichardTauber wrote: »

Uhm, I would be using Chrome if it had a google search-bar... I haven't seen any screenshots with that particular feature which is ironic. So I guess my question is: is there a way to get a firefox-style google search-bar in chrome?

It's integrated into the address bar, which has been dubbed the "Omni Bar". More details, including a woefully short video!

EDIT: Crap, beaten. Twice.