And here's hoping that next year we have Booth Hunks. I would love a photo with a half naked zombie/pirate/robot with a 6-pack. Yum.
Hey, last year we had that big guy handing out tins of mints representing some game I can't remember...maybe if he had big lady boobs then I would. :winky: was he hunky enough for ya?
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Wow, this thread is new and interesting. Sorry, just get tired of it every year.
Astayonix, thanks for being a breath of fresh air.
If those women were in the bathroom mocking attendees, then they clearly don't belong at PAX. But people like Natasha last year, the FragDolls every year and the super sexy hot men in uniform clearly DO belong. We come to the same conclusion every year.
There are going to be times when some get through the vetting process. Don't get bent out of shape over it. They're just attractive humans. They won't hurt you.
And here's hoping that next year we have Booth Hunks. I would love a photo with a half naked zombie/pirate/robot with a 6-pack. Yum.
Hey, last year we had that big guy handing out tins of mints representing some game I can't remember...maybe if he had big lady boobs then I would. :winky: was he hunky enough for ya?
Hmmm...I don't recall big guy handing out mints from last year. I do, however, still have around 10 packs of those Haze mints. Perhaps I missed him? Maybe I went for the wrong mints?
Just to prove all the naysayers out there, I snapped this pic of a male cosplayer:
All it proves is that I don't just think booth babes are good for one thing, I think booth guys are too. (but he was a cosplayer so I can't really compare)
After looking at that first picture from that guy it dawned on me it was that at one time popular cosplay chick Alisa-chan or whatever....who has since moved on into...other things or rather cosplays in a different sense.
The resemblance is uncanny if it isn't actually her, not that it matters. She was there in a cool Princess Peach costume, I just thought I had seen her somewhere before.
Just to prove all the naysayers out there, I snapped this pic of a male cosplayer:
All it proves is that I don't just think booth babes are good for one thing, I think booth guys are too. (but he was a cosplayer so I can't really compare)
I just don't understand how hard it would be to find attractive gamer girls out there to help out at these booths. I'm pretty sure they'd be willing to be paid less too, especially if it's a game they actually play. It seems the biggest gripe about booth babes is the fact that they don't know anything about the games they're promoting, not that they're there. Not all gamer gals are ugly, I'm sure you can round up a few that are willing to put on a costume and help promote a game they enjoy.
And here's hoping that next year we have Booth Hunks. I would love a photo with a half naked zombie/pirate/robot with a 6-pack. Yum.
Hey, last year we had that big guy handing out tins of mints representing some game I can't remember...maybe if he had big lady boobs then I would. :winky: was he hunky enough for ya?
It was Haze. He was quite the side of manbeef. Better looking than the actual game!
And here's hoping that next year we have Booth Hunks. I would love a photo with a half naked zombie/pirate/robot with a 6-pack. Yum.
Hey, last year we had that big guy handing out tins of mints representing some game I can't remember...maybe if he had big lady boobs then I would. :winky: was he hunky enough for ya?
It was Haze. He was quite the side of manbeef. Better looking than the actual game!
The mints were great too.
Damn! I got mints but no man. That makes me a very sad panda.
I'm not saying they needed a horde of subject matter experts, but if I ask one "where is the Rock Band booth" and she answers "Oh, Rock Band isn't one of our games." I think EA might have a problem with who they hired. I wouldn't expect them to answer gameplay questions- like I wouldn't ask a Spore creator questions about Mirror's Edge. But if I ask a simple question, having that many clueless people on hand who are just there to look pretty (none of those hand out people were guys and none were unattractive) is frustrating.
Okay. I think I get where you're coming from now. You asked her a question. She either spaced and thought you were asking about her specific pavilion or was just plain ignorant. That is frustrating. But they weren't showing skin or flirting, so saying "EA should be ashamed" strikes me as overly harsh. Sure, they could have given the women working the desk a full list of games and a map, but I could see how they thought of that as a swag station and overlooked its marked resemblance to an info desk. :P
Anyway, I don't think this discussion really belongs in the booth babe thread anymore. Feel free to PM if you want to talk about it some more.
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And here's hoping that next year we have Booth Hunks. I would love a photo with a half naked zombie/pirate/robot with a 6-pack. Yum.
Hey, last year we had that big guy handing out tins of mints representing some game I can't remember...maybe if he had big lady boobs then I would. :winky: was he hunky enough for ya?
It was Haze. He was quite the side of manbeef. Better looking than the actual game!
The mints were great too.
Yeah, that was actually an old American Gladiator that went by Hawk. His real name is Lee Reherman (sp?).
[EDIT] God it's sad I can remember that a year later. Especially given that I'm a dude, but there was rampant speculation on the boards after the first day about who he was.
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I just don't understand how hard it would be to find attractive gamer girls out there to help out at these booths. I'm pretty sure they'd be willing to be paid less too, especially if it's a game they actually play. It seems the biggest gripe about booth babes is the fact that they don't know anything about the games they're promoting, not that they're there. Not all gamer gals are ugly, I'm sure you can round up a few that are willing to put on a costume and help promote a game they enjoy.
From the sounds of it, they should be checking Craigslist prior to the post.
Another alternative would be to set up a community for local models who are interested in gaming, so that the companies could go to them directly.
I'm all in favor of girls dressed up in sexy costumes showing off skin, but only if they can talk to you about the game they're demoing. I don't want to walk up to a game, notice the girl next to me, comment on the combat system and have her go, "What's 'melee' mean?" She better be able to engage me in a conversation about the product she's showing off. As long as they can talk to me, I don't care if it's a sexy girl, a sexy guy, an ugly girl, or an ugly guy.
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I'm all in favor of girls dressed up in sexy costumes showing off skin, but only if they can talk to you about the game they're demoing. I don't want to walk up to a game, notice the girl next to me, comment on the combat system and have her go, "What's 'melee' mean?" She better be able to engage me in a conversation about the product she's showing off. As long as they can talk to me, I don't care if it's a sexy girl, a sexy guy, an ugly girl, or an ugly guy.
She posted her own pic in the cosplay thread. I was kinda shocked that a young woman would be so bold. Something tells me she was thirsting for attention. I'm just afraid she might attract the wrong kind of attention, particularly in downtown Seattle.
She obviously wanted attention, just like anyone who dresses in a skimpy fashion wants attention. Paid or not. But, you were shocked that she would be so bold? Should she be walking 20 paces behind a male relative in a burqa with her head down, eyes averted? She's (presumably) old enough to dress as she pleases, so it's her decision. With so many young women afflicted with some type of self-loating about their appearance, I applaud her self-confidence. I know mine isn't a popular view, but I think it just boils down to a personal choice in her case. If she's underaged, yes, her parents should be involved, but then it would be a familial decision, not ours. Certainly, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally, as a female attendee, I didn't feel threatened by or uncomfortable around any booth babe or cosplayer. Then again, I also spent very little time in the Expo Hall becuase the BYOC is my home-away-from-home . Better community feel in there.
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She posted her own pic in the cosplay thread. I was kinda shocked that a young woman would be so bold. Something tells me she was thirsting for attention. I'm just afraid she might attract the wrong kind of attention, particularly in downtown Seattle.
She obviously wanted attention, just like anyone who dresses in a skimpy fashion wants attention. Paid or not. But, you were shocked that she would be so bold? Should she be walking 20 paces behind a male relative in a burqa with her head down, eyes averted? She's (presumably) old enough to dress as she pleases, so it's her decision. With so many young women afflicted with some type of self-loating about their appearance, I applaud her self-confidence. I know mine isn't a popular view, but I think it just boils down to a personal choice in her case. If she's underaged, yes, her parents should be involved, but then it would be a familial decision, not ours. Certainly, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally, as a female attendee, I didn't feel threatened by or uncomfortable around any booth babe or cosplayer. Then again, I also spent very little time in the Expo Hall becuase the BYOC is my home-away-from-home . Better community feel in there.
Perhaps I'm just too apathetic about this whole matter, but my main question is was she from Guild Wars? Because if she's replicating say, necromancer scar armor, then it's still legitimately dressing to a character.
She posted her own pic in the cosplay thread. I was kinda shocked that a young woman would be so bold. Something tells me she was thirsting for attention. I'm just afraid she might attract the wrong kind of attention, particularly in downtown Seattle.
She obviously wanted attention, just like anyone who dresses in a skimpy fashion wants attention. Paid or not. But, you were shocked that she would be so bold? Should she be walking 20 paces behind a male relative in a burqa with her head down, eyes averted? She's (presumably) old enough to dress as she pleases, so it's her decision. With so many young women afflicted with some type of self-loating about their appearance, I applaud her self-confidence. I know mine isn't a popular view, but I think it just boils down to a personal choice in her case. If she's underaged, yes, her parents should be involved, but then it would be a familial decision, not ours. Certainly, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally, as a female attendee, I didn't feel threatened by or uncomfortable around any booth babe or cosplayer. Then again, I also spent very little time in the Expo Hall becuase the BYOC is my home-away-from-home . Better community feel in there.
As a female gamer I am also not offended by scantily clad women. However I am worried about a very young girl walking around in downtown Seattle showing off her little boobies.
That just screams for a media circus around cosplayers getting raped by hobos downtown, how it's PAX's fault, and then our entrance door will be over crowded by gamers AND protesters.
My wife and I passed her in the expo hall and it didn't occur to either of us that she could be underage (though now that you mention it, maybe she could be). I guess she was supposed to be Cortana?
My wife and I passed her in the expo hall and it didn't occur to either of us that she could be underage (though now that you mention it, maybe she could be). I guess she was supposed to be Cortana?
She was, but I didn't get it at first since she wasn't blue. I had to ask her what she was cosplaying as, since I only saw her from behind at first and thought they were supposed to be tattoos. I always feel bad asking a cosplayer who they are, because either I'm dumb or they're bad at it. Either way someone loses.
Down with booth babes, not only are they demeaning and an embarrassment to male and female gamers and non-gamers alike, they also take away from the experience of a hardcore gaming festival. Basically what I want to say is that as long as a person plays games and accepts themselves as gamers then they should be welcome as gamers into PAX in any form of attire that they feel the urge to wear. If some of the women I saw there handing out pan flits and other useless pieces of paper had known about the games they were promoting and played games on their own time then I would have absolutely no problem with them at the convention. I mean come on some of the: "Booth Babes," were pretty attractive; I would be happy to see those kinds of women at PAX as long as they are gamers. However, the idea that sex sells in video-games is something that we as the hardcore should try to fight against; we could be the first medium to rise above sex and achieve an unbiased market where products are simply judged individually on their content. I like a pretty girl as much as the next guy, but booth babes are a disgrace to the community that we are trying to build and more importantly maintain.
My wife and I passed her in the expo hall and it didn't occur to either of us that she could be underage (though now that you mention it, maybe she could be). I guess she was supposed to be Cortana?
She was, but I didn't get it at first since she wasn't blue. I had to ask her what she was cosplaying as, since I only saw her from behind at first and thought they were supposed to be tattoos. I always feel bad asking a cosplayer who they are, because either I'm dumb or they're bad at it. Either way someone loses.
D'oh! I never would have guessed. And, yah, that makes me feel bad for exactly the reasons you describe.
I have to totally agree with nemaihne in her post about booth babes. I have no problem with exhibitors hiring male and female actors to cosplaying characters from their game. So long as the actor/actress stays relatively in character, of which is ok if they do not know much about the game play itself, so long as they have a mostly clear understanding of the character they are bringing to life. The best reference I can think of at the moment is of the char’s at Disneyland which would be for me perfectly acceptable at PAX. If the game has major char’s who happened to be scantly clad female characters and the exhibitor has said scantly clad females at their booth acting out the role. Then I would be inclined to say that its in keeping with the spirit of what is PAX. Now if that same exhibitor just put said person into a costume with no back story or expectation to act the role of the character they are assuming, but simply to hand out promotional material then that should not be tolerated.
In both cases they are marketing gimmicks and you cannot fault the company for attempting to drum up excitement about their product as well as a means to make us remember it beyond the moment. And unfortunately there are many companies that seem rely on old world advertisement principles that do not easily apply to gamers as a whole. We see such advertisements all the time on the radio, television and magazine ads. But from reading through the thread it seems most of you are like me in not being satisfied with simple already published glossy page ads but want to dig behind into what the developers where thinking and feeling when they created their works of art.
I think one of the prime examples of a booth well done would have to be the Eve-online booth staffed only with developers who even if they have not been employed for years where still involved in the continue evolution of the game and knew a great extent about what direction the game was going in.
So to wrap up what has become a huge wall of text I am not against scantly clad females so long as they are attempting to bring to life a part of the game by acting out their given role. We have no problem with Bungie having someone dressed up as Master chief, but there is no need to have someone in a bikini or a thong for the sole purpose of handing out promotional material.
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I think that it's a two way street. Booth Babes need to be knowledgeable about the product.
With that said, guys need to be more respectful around them, and do a better job of presenting themselves. Shower, dress appropriate, and actually talk to them like a real person. Ask for her name, rather than "Can, I, uh... have my picture with you? 'k, thnx, bye." Assume that you're going to want to have your picture taken with people before you arrive, and prepare appropriately. Show that you're a better class of fan, who deserves a better class of booth babe.
The N-Gage girls tell me that they were hired the day of the expo. I'm sure they weren't the only ones. If the booths are going to use the booth babe as their main draw, then at the very least, they need to plan things a bit earlier than that, so that they can at least sit the booth babe down to play the game before they start.
As much as I don't want "booth bimbos" at PAX I can't help but disagree with you on one point. If a developer or any exhibitor is going to use booth bimbos then isn't there sole purpose to attract men to the booth. They show us gamers no respect by treating us like animals to the point where they use completely knowledge less booth bimbos to draw us in to a game. To me this is very disrespectful, I personally hold gamers higher than normal people that are solely attracted by skin, especially, I would hope, our PA community. So unless exhibitors are going to show us some respect by not using sex, then I don't think that we should be held to a higher level of not falling into their trap by only wanting a picture from these booth bimbos. They are here solely to attract men, and don't tell me that you come to PAX looking to make friends with booth bimbos; this is a community event and we should be making friends with community members, which hopefully one day will include hot, sexy women, (not that I didn't see a lot of attractive gamer women.) When the day comes when the hot models that are being hired know about the game they are promoting and are real gamers then yes they will deserve much more than a picture request; however until that day comes I would hope that the PA community at least if not the gaming community as a whole would see the degradation of booth bimbos at a community event like PAX.
But people like Natasha last year, the FragDolls every year and the super sexy hot men in uniform clearly DO belong. We come to the same conclusion every year.
Ummm how do you figure? They have a few supporters, but the general consensus is pretty obviously leaning in the "No booth babes please" direction.
BA, that depends on your definition of booth babe. The consensus so far (at least on the forums, which may not be a perfect microcosm of the pax-going public in general, but close) seems to be that as long as they know what they're talking about and seem interested in it, they're fine.
If they actually have an interest in what they're doing or what they're promoting, they're more cosplayers and less booth babes (or booth bimbos, as our resident hater so eloquently put it.) At least that's how I see it.
I just don't understand how hard it would be to find attractive gamer girls out there to help out at these booths. I'm pretty sure they'd be willing to be paid less too, especially if it's a game they actually play. It seems the biggest gripe about booth babes is the fact that they don't know anything about the games they're promoting, not that they're there. Not all gamer gals are ugly, I'm sure you can round up a few that are willing to put on a costume and help promote a game they enjoy.
Personally I find nothing wrong with knowledgeable cosplayers. The Sins booth girl is a prime example. She was in an amazing (and tasteful) costume, knew all about the game, and was very nice when I spoke to her. She is not a booth babe.
But she is the one and ONLY girl I spoke to that knew jack about what they were promoting. She was there because she cared about the game. People hired out of the blue the day before just to stand around and look pretty? Thats insulting to our intelligence. Try spending that money on improving your booth, better swag, ect.
Not only that but as some else pointed out in the thread, booth babes tend to make real regular gamer girls uncomfortable. We are there as part of the community, because of our love of gaming. Having the idea shoved down our throat that we should all be anorexic vapid sluts in chainmail bikinis is sickening. Young girls get enough of the medias warped sense of "beauty" shoved onto them as is. I am HIGHLY disappointed in PAX for not sticking to their policy.
Personally I find nothing wrong with knowledgeable cosplayers. The Sins booth girl is a prime example. She was in an amazing costume, knew all about the game, and was very nice when I spoke to her. She is not a booth babe.
But she is the one and ONLY girl I spoke to that knew jack about what they were promoting. She was there because she cared about the game. People hired out of the blue the day before just to stand around and look pretty? Thats insulting to our intelligence. Try spending that money on improving your booth, better swag, ect.
Not only that but as some else pointed out in the thread, booth babes tend to make real regular gamer girls uncomfortable. We are there as part of the community, because of our love of gaming. Having the idea shoved down our throat that we should all be anorexic vapid sluts in chainmail bikinis is sickening. Young girls get enough of the medias warped sense of "beauty" shoved onto them as is. I am HIGHLY disappointed in PAX for not sticking to their policy.
I won't lime it because the amount of content I'd need to lime might be blinding, but let's just say I agree 100% with what BA's saying here.
Personally I find nothing wrong with knowledgeable cosplayers. The Sins booth girl is a prime example. She was in an amazing costume, knew all about the game, and was very nice when I spoke to her. She is not a booth babe.
ok, so we agree then. Although I would classify the Musketeer from last year and the Frag Dolls in that group as well, since they were/are quite knowledgable about what they are promoting.
I was definitely disappointed when I saw how many more there were this year, and commented on it a lot...it seemed...un-classy...although like I said, I didn't go around talking to the majority of them.
I think Natasha and the Frag dolls are a grey area. While knowledgeable about the games, they are both very obviously all about the "sex sells" aspect. Which is still insulting. But I'd take them any day over the girls this year.
I think Natasha and the Frag dolls are a grey area. While knowledgeable about the games, they are both very obviously all about the "sex sells" aspect. Which is still insulting. But I'd take them any day over the girls this year.
well, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree at this point
I think Natasha and the Frag dolls are a grey area. While knowledgeable about the games, they are both very obviously all about the "sex sells" aspect. Which is still insulting. But I'd take them any day over the girls this year.
well, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree at this point
:P I still you you booth babe loving bastard ::hugs::
lol! I found that the area in front of the BYOC was the best place to find other forumers at PAX itself. Short of that, the Pre-PAX events were where it's at
lol! I found that the area in front of the BYOC was the best place to find other forumers at PAX itself. Short of that, the Pre-PAX events were where it's at
For sure! I am definitely going to BYOC next year. I spent a lot of time just outside the area trading buttons and talking with people! I can't imagine how fun it must be once you get inside!
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Hey, last year we had that big guy handing out tins of mints representing some game I can't remember...maybe if he had big lady boobs then I would. :winky: was he hunky enough for ya?
Astayonix, thanks for being a breath of fresh air.
If those women were in the bathroom mocking attendees, then they clearly don't belong at PAX. But people like Natasha last year, the FragDolls every year and the super sexy hot men in uniform clearly DO belong. We come to the same conclusion every year.
There are going to be times when some get through the vetting process. Don't get bent out of shape over it. They're just attractive humans. They won't hurt you.
Hmmm...I don't recall big guy handing out mints from last year. I do, however, still have around 10 packs of those Haze mints. Perhaps I missed him? Maybe I went for the wrong mints?
All it proves is that I don't just think booth babes are good for one thing, I think booth guys are too. (but he was a cosplayer so I can't really compare)
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After looking at that first picture from that guy it dawned on me it was that at one time popular cosplay chick Alisa-chan or whatever....who has since moved on into...other things or rather cosplays in a different sense.
I went back to verify and sure enough: http://www.alisakiss.com/alisachan/2/blondefelicia11.jpg
The resemblance is uncanny if it isn't actually her, not that it matters. She was there in a cool Princess Peach costume, I just thought I had seen her somewhere before.
You took a picture of the wrong side.
It was Haze. He was quite the side of manbeef. Better looking than the actual game!
The mints were great too.
Damn! I got mints but no man. That makes me a very sad panda.
Okay. I think I get where you're coming from now. You asked her a question. She either spaced and thought you were asking about her specific pavilion or was just plain ignorant. That is frustrating. But they weren't showing skin or flirting, so saying "EA should be ashamed" strikes me as overly harsh. Sure, they could have given the women working the desk a full list of games and a map, but I could see how they thought of that as a swag station and overlooked its marked resemblance to an info desk. :P
Anyway, I don't think this discussion really belongs in the booth babe thread anymore. Feel free to PM if you want to talk about it some more.
Yeah, that was actually an old American Gladiator that went by Hawk. His real name is Lee Reherman (sp?).
[EDIT] God it's sad I can remember that a year later. Especially given that I'm a dude, but there was rampant speculation on the boards after the first day about who he was.
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From the sounds of it, they should be checking Craigslist prior to the post.
Another alternative would be to set up a community for local models who are interested in gaming, so that the companies could go to them directly.
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Seconded.
She obviously wanted attention, just like anyone who dresses in a skimpy fashion wants attention. Paid or not. But, you were shocked that she would be so bold? Should she be walking 20 paces behind a male relative in a burqa with her head down, eyes averted? She's (presumably) old enough to dress as she pleases, so it's her decision. With so many young women afflicted with some type of self-loating about their appearance, I applaud her self-confidence. I know mine isn't a popular view, but I think it just boils down to a personal choice in her case. If she's underaged, yes, her parents should be involved, but then it would be a familial decision, not ours. Certainly, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally, as a female attendee, I didn't feel threatened by or uncomfortable around any booth babe or cosplayer. Then again, I also spent very little time in the Expo Hall becuase the BYOC is my home-away-from-home
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Perhaps I'm just too apathetic about this whole matter, but my main question is was she from Guild Wars? Because if she's replicating say, necromancer scar armor, then it's still legitimately dressing to a character.
As a female gamer I am also not offended by scantily clad women. However I am worried about a very young girl walking around in downtown Seattle showing off her little boobies.
That just screams for a media circus around cosplayers getting raped by hobos downtown, how it's PAX's fault, and then our entrance door will be over crowded by gamers AND protesters.
My wife and I passed her in the expo hall and it didn't occur to either of us that she could be underage (though now that you mention it, maybe she could be). I guess she was supposed to be Cortana?
She was, but I didn't get it at first since she wasn't blue. I had to ask her what she was cosplaying as, since I only saw her from behind at first and thought they were supposed to be tattoos. I always feel bad asking a cosplayer who they are, because either I'm dumb or they're bad at it. Either way someone loses.
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D'oh! I never would have guessed. And, yah, that makes me feel bad for exactly the reasons you describe.
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In both cases they are marketing gimmicks and you cannot fault the company for attempting to drum up excitement about their product as well as a means to make us remember it beyond the moment. And unfortunately there are many companies that seem rely on old world advertisement principles that do not easily apply to gamers as a whole. We see such advertisements all the time on the radio, television and magazine ads. But from reading through the thread it seems most of you are like me in not being satisfied with simple already published glossy page ads but want to dig behind into what the developers where thinking and feeling when they created their works of art.
I think one of the prime examples of a booth well done would have to be the Eve-online booth staffed only with developers who even if they have not been employed for years where still involved in the continue evolution of the game and knew a great extent about what direction the game was going in.
So to wrap up what has become a huge wall of text I am not against scantly clad females so long as they are attempting to bring to life a part of the game by acting out their given role. We have no problem with Bungie having someone dressed up as Master chief, but there is no need to have someone in a bikini or a thong for the sole purpose of handing out promotional material.
As much as I don't want "booth bimbos" at PAX I can't help but disagree with you on one point. If a developer or any exhibitor is going to use booth bimbos then isn't there sole purpose to attract men to the booth. They show us gamers no respect by treating us like animals to the point where they use completely knowledge less booth bimbos to draw us in to a game. To me this is very disrespectful, I personally hold gamers higher than normal people that are solely attracted by skin, especially, I would hope, our PA community. So unless exhibitors are going to show us some respect by not using sex, then I don't think that we should be held to a higher level of not falling into their trap by only wanting a picture from these booth bimbos. They are here solely to attract men, and don't tell me that you come to PAX looking to make friends with booth bimbos; this is a community event and we should be making friends with community members, which hopefully one day will include hot, sexy women, (not that I didn't see a lot of attractive gamer women.) When the day comes when the hot models that are being hired know about the game they are promoting and are real gamers then yes they will deserve much more than a picture request; however until that day comes I would hope that the PA community at least if not the gaming community as a whole would see the degradation of booth bimbos at a community event like PAX.
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Ummm how do you figure? They have a few supporters, but the general consensus is pretty obviously leaning in the "No booth babes please" direction.
If they actually have an interest in what they're doing or what they're promoting, they're more cosplayers and less booth babes (or booth bimbos, as our resident hater so eloquently put it.) At least that's how I see it.
Completely agree.
But she is the one and ONLY girl I spoke to that knew jack about what they were promoting. She was there because she cared about the game. People hired out of the blue the day before just to stand around and look pretty? Thats insulting to our intelligence. Try spending that money on improving your booth, better swag, ect.
Not only that but as some else pointed out in the thread, booth babes tend to make real regular gamer girls uncomfortable. We are there as part of the community, because of our love of gaming. Having the idea shoved down our throat that we should all be anorexic vapid sluts in chainmail bikinis is sickening. Young girls get enough of the medias warped sense of "beauty" shoved onto them as is. I am HIGHLY disappointed in PAX for not sticking to their policy.
I won't lime it because the amount of content I'd need to lime might be blinding, but let's just say I agree 100% with what BA's saying here.
ok, so we agree then. Although I would classify the Musketeer from last year and the Frag Dolls in that group as well, since they were/are quite knowledgable about what they are promoting.
I was definitely disappointed when I saw how many more there were this year, and commented on it a lot...it seemed...un-classy...although like I said, I didn't go around talking to the majority of them.
I think that's the biggest problem. The fact that they are actually out spoken against booth babes, but then have them everywhere this year.
well, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree at this point
:P I still
Note to self...see more of people next year. I'm going to become a PAX stalker, because otherwise it's impossible to find people.
For sure! I am definitely going to BYOC next year. I spent a lot of time just outside the area trading buttons and talking with people!