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Exiles/New Excalibur: Die by the Bored?

cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
edited November 2007 in Graphic Violence
I recently stumbled upon the first trade of this series, and I'm kicking myself for not getting it before. Marvel's version of Sliders/Quantum Leap style action is pretty fucking awesome, if you can get past the sub-par art in the first story arc.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    The wolverine arc was great. :D

    and I love the restaurant they're at

    House of Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Speaking of the Wolverine arc,

    [spoiler:d770c0feca]Was the Logan from DoFP that got killed THE DoFP Wolverine, or just one from a similar reality like the Trial of the Phoenix Wolverine in the second story arc?[/spoiler:d770c0feca]

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited September 2006
    cytorak wrote:
    Speaking of the Wolverine arc,

    [spoiler:81b37d5337]Was the Logan from DoFP that got killed THE DoFP Wolverine, or just one from a similar reality like the Trial of the Phoenix Wolverine in the second story arc?[/spoiler:81b37d5337]
    The latter. I don't think any of the Wolverines were from 616.

    At least, I think not.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited September 2006
    cytorak wrote:
    Speaking of the Wolverine arc,

    [spoiler:ba6d6d43ed]Was the Logan from DoFP that got killed THE DoFP Wolverine, or just one from a similar reality like the Trial of the Phoenix Wolverine in the second story arc?[/spoiler:ba6d6d43ed]
    The latter. I don't think any of the Wolverines were from 616.

    At least, I think not.

    They haven't traveled through time from the crystal palace that I know of, they just say that time progresses different in different realities to account for having been in different time periods before, so I'd have to assume they are all different reality Wolverines.

    Also, Exiles is fantastic, such a great vehicle for Blink to stick around for so long in.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited September 2006
    Since this is an Exiles thread,

    I have to say that World Tour's ending was bullshit.

    In terms of what happened to Morph.

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Since this is an Exiles thread,

    I have to say that World Tour's ending was bullshit.

    In terms of what happened to Morph.

    It was a "Duh duh duh da duh duh...Wha?" ending.

    [spoiler:421b09f304]In my opinon,Morph's body should be a "prison" for Proteus, and the Personalities of Mimic, Morph, Hulk 2099, and Justice acting as "guards." At any given time, any of those personalities could assert themselves in Morph's body. [/spoiler:421b09f304]

    I'm not really digging the current line up. PP is more of a bitch than Namora, and Longshot's powers are so inconsistent. One issue, he's unstoppable. The next, he's knocked on his ass in the first minute of the fight. Sabretooth just seems like a pallette swap for the 616 Wolverine, and Spidey 2099 is just kind of hanging out. I'd love to see Mimic back (maybe drop him in 616) or even Thunderbird for that matter.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited September 2006
    Since this is an Exiles thread,

    I have to say that World Tour's ending was bullshit.

    In terms of what happened to Morph.

    Yea, I have to agree with you there, the way that one issue near the end started I knew something was up.

    That kind of leads into something I like about Exiles though, they've made it completely obvious at this point that anything can happen to any character. Really the only character that seems untouchable from getting completely fucked over, other then emotionally, is Blink.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited September 2006
    I do agree that Zarda needs to go, but I like the lineup otherwise.

    I do miss Mimic, though. Cal and Clarice were the heart of the book, and while I understand that her and Creed should have the same function now, except in a father/daughter way, it falls flat for me.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    I stopped reading it after the Time Breaker arc... was this a mistake?

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User
    edited September 2006
    I think Exiles pretty much lost its direction completely with the Timebreaker crap.

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  • TankTank Registered User
    edited September 2006
    All of the Judd Winick story arcs were pretty cool. After that it was hit or miss for me.

    I like Cytorak's idea for Morph.

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Exiles has taught me one thing: no matter what universe you're in, unless it's 616 or 2099, Peter Parker is batshit loco.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User
    edited September 2006
    cytorak wrote:
    Exiles has taught me one thing: no matter what universe you're in, unless it's 616 or 2099, Peter Parker is batshit loco.
    You know what I hated? When they introduced The Spider from Weapon X. One of the first things he says is when he's talking about how horrible it was to have to kill the Morlocks, how they deserved better than that.

    ...and by the end of the issue he's a bloodthirsty sociopath. And he just gets worse as the series goes on.

    ...I think that was Winick, too.

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  • Ghost Rider 2099Ghost Rider 2099 Registered User
    edited September 2006
    Who was the writer for the first couple of arcs?

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  • SASA Registered User
    edited September 2006
    It started great and has gotten exponentially worse.

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  • Ghost Rider 2099Ghost Rider 2099 Registered User
    edited September 2006
    It started great and has gotten exponentially worse.

    true.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User
    edited September 2006
    Who was the writer for the first couple of arcs?
    It breaks down like this:

    Exiles #1-37 -- Judd Winick
    Exiles #38-40 -- Chuck Austen
    Exiles #41-42 -- Jim Calafiore
    Exiles #43-45 -- Chuck Austen
    Exiles #46-Present -- Tony Bedard

    Just so you have some frame of reference:

    [spoiler:f0223404b5]#37 was the death of Sunfire.[/spoiler:f0223404b5]

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Wait, so Judd [spoiler:8dd1c69f36] killed the gay character he created when he was leaving the book, just like Kirkman recently did with Freedom Ring or whatever? [/spoiler:8dd1c69f36] Does that mean Judd hates gay people?
    Also, I'm really enjoying Tony Bedard's work on the book. It's got its ups and downs, but I reread the early stuff recently, and really preferred Bedard's work. The december solicits sound really interesting too.
    Of course, Chuck Austen's run was terrible, with a crossover to the main X-book to fight a random villain of his own design, and Chris Claremont is slated to take over if he ever comes back, at which point I'll stop reading, but currently it's pretty darn good. Also, this week they were eating at the House of Mmmmmmmmm. That's pretty awesome.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User
    edited September 2006
    I think it means Judd killed off a character at the end of his run.

    Christ. You might as well say it means he hates hot Asian chicks.

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    I think you might have taken me seriously, when I was intending to sarcastically point out similarities between that situation, which I don't recall anyone saying anything about, and the recent accusations against Robert Kirkman over a similar situation, which I find just as ridiculous as you seem to.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User
    edited September 2006
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    I think you might have taken me seriously, when I was intending to sarcastically point out similarities between that situation, which I don't recall anyone saying anything about, and the recent accusations against Robert Kirkman over a similar situation, which I find just as ridiculous as you seem to.
    Fair enough.

    Sometimes sarcasm is difficult to identify on the interweb.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User
    edited September 2006
    I think it means Judd killed off a character at the end of his run.

    Christ. You might as well say it means he hates hot Asian chicks.
    well, he is married to one....

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    It started great and has gotten exponentially worse.

    I honestly liked everything up to the World Tour, with the exception of "Monster World." Hopefully, the writers can bring it back around now that "Snikt-a-Rama" is over.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User
    edited September 2006
    I think it means Judd killed off a character at the end of his run.

    Christ. You might as well say it means he hates hot Asian chicks.
    well, he is married to one....
    Not everybody's wife is a horrible bitch goddess, Axe.

    ...no, really.

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    And now, to completely dork out, who would you have as members of the Exiles and Weapon X?

    My picks:

    Exiles
    Who leads your dream team of reality-savers?

    1. Blink (AoA)
    2. Magik--(Exiles version)
    3. Skullfire (2099)
    4. Morph (Exiles version)
    5. Omerta (616)
    6. Dark Claw (Amalgam!)

    Exiles

    1. Gambit (Weapon X version)
    2. The Vision (Weapon X version)
    3. Zarda (Supreme Power)
    4. Havok (AoA)
    5. Super Skrull Rogue (Nocturne's timeline)
    6. The Spider (Weapon X version)

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    In the just announced Exiles Annual #1, the current team must fight an alternate reality version of Blink, Mimic, Nocturne, Morph, Thunderbird and Magnus! :shock:

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    They better be Nazis. Is all I'm saying.

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
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    Could be Nazis, I guess.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Blink has the hottest costume ever.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    I just had a thought.

    Why haven't the Exiles gone to the Ultimate universe yet?

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2006
    cytorak wrote:
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    Could be Nazis, I guess.
    Looking at that cover
    [spoiler:1ebb9ead08]It shows everyone's bodies except for Zarda, whose helmet is lying there....could she be killed in the battle?[/spoiler:1ebb9ead08]

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    DarkPrimus wrote:
    I just had a thought.

    Why haven't the Exiles gone to the Ultimate universe yet?

    Maybe it's too close to a Ultimate/616 crossover for Marvel's liking? I remember reading a quote somewhere saying that a U/616 crossover would be the last comic that Marvel ever prints. :P

    There IS supposed to be an Ultimate/Supreme Power crossover in the works, written by J. Michael Straczynski.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Is the exiles zarda the one from Supreme Power?

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Is the exiles zarda the one from Supreme Power?
    Same person, different universe.

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Is the exiles zarda the one from Supreme Power?

    Unfortunately, no. She is from the old Squadron Supreme, not the current one by J. Michael Straczynski.

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  • cytorakcytorak Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    cytorak wrote:
    exiles-ann1.jpg

    Could be Nazis, I guess.
    Looking at that cover
    [spoiler:1d81064b26]It shows everyone's bodies except for Zarda, whose helmet is lying there....could she be killed in the battle?[/spoiler:1d81064b26]

    [spoiler:1d81064b26]Probably. They need to make room for a sassy, dark-haired female warrior. :) [/spoiler:1d81064b26]

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2006
    cytorak wrote:
    cytorak wrote:
    snippy-ze-nazi-exiles

    Could be Nazis, I guess.
    Looking at that cover
    [spoiler:15c3854729]It shows everyone's bodies except for Zarda, whose helmet is lying there....could she be killed in the battle?[/spoiler:15c3854729]

    [spoiler:15c3854729]Probably. They need to make room for a sassy, dark-haired female warrior. :) [/spoiler:15c3854729]
    [spoiler:15c3854729]Psylocke? Psylocke :? Get someone intresting in there, like an alternat universe Gravity where he's the "Superman" of his world.[/spoiler:15c3854729]

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User
    edited September 2006
    Put 1602 Daredevil on the team. I love that guy.

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2006
    robosagogo wrote:
    Put 1602 Daredevil on the team. I love that guy.
    Hell just about any 1602 character would be damn intresting on Exiles. ...'Cept for Virginia Dare, I never liked her.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited September 2006
    annuals are weird. exiles has been around for a good 5 years now and they haven't gotten an annual until now.

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