Pfft. Since when have people ever been united by people being nice and heroic? People are united by fear and mistrust of things they don't understand. I'm pretty sure Linderman even said that in his speech, or something like it. And Ozymandius was a also one of the 'heroes' of the book, who they treated like a villain, even though his 'evil' plan ended up working and uniting the planet against a common threat.
Edit : Also, in the clip of next week, Mohinder is telling Nathan that his plan amounts to 'genocide' or something. He wants to kill off the Heroes, not celebrate them...
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Pfft. Since when have people ever been united by people being nice and heroic? People are united by fear and mistrust of things they don't understand. I'm pretty sure Linderman even said that in his speech, or something like it. And Ozymandius was a also one of the 'heroes' of the book, who they treated like a villain, even though his 'evil' plan ended up working and uniting the planet against a common threat.
Linderman said healing people one-by-one doesn't work. That convinces those people that the next step in evolution isn't a scary one. But if they "save" New York, it will convince the world.
But he doesn't save NY. He sacrifices it. Five years in the future, it's still abandoned. I think it's more likely that he's looked at the big picture and decided that it's better to persecute the 1% of the population that's mutated in order to unite the remaining 99%. If you use his metaphor, 'healing' or helping the few mutants isn't big enough, not important enough.
he sacrifices NYC to unite the world. but from hiro's future, it looks like it didn't work the way he wanted. The supers get persecuted instead of revered.
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But he doesn't save NY. He sacrifices it. Five years in the future, it's still abandoned. I think it's more likely that he's looked at the big picture and decided that it's better to persecute the 1% of the population that's mutated in order to unite the remaining 99%. If you use his metaphor, 'healing' or helping the few mutants isn't big enough, not important enough.
They'd blow up part of New York and then the supers would go in and help the injured people and with the rebuilding.
They were fixing it up when Hiro's in the future. It takes more than 5 years to rebuild a city.
It mentions how in the future, supers are reviled much as mutants are on 616.
Well, at least in Future Hiro's *original* timeline, that is before he tell peter to "save the cheerleader, save the world". After that he returns back to the Future, but we haven't seen enough to see if its the same situation. All we know is that NYC was still destroyed, thats about it.
We didn't see Linderman at all this episode...but I think I was still right...sorta? I think his plan went wrong because of...well...
"...it's almost biblical."
I would play good money to see more of that fight than some glowy lights.
well...everyone was united - against 'specials'. As for the fight, yeah it would be cool to see more, but my imagination can come up with a much more badass fight then these guys can do on a public TV budget.
Man I don't know whats up. NBC.com says its up. But when I click on it all I get is last weeks episode. there arn't enough frowny faces in the world to express how I feel.
when Hiro and Ando et all were analyzing the timeline
was reminiscent of
?
More like...
:winky:
Man, I was a little surprised by the twist b/c I could totally believe that given 5 years time, Nathan Petrelli could end up being a complete asshole. I was snowed.
The Matrix is the Dark Knight Returns of movies. A kind of original, kind of good idea that fathered all sorts of derivative creations which, in turn, only served to degrade the original.
The Matrix is the Dark Knight Returns of movies. A kind of original, kind of good idea that fathered all sorts of derivative creations which, in turn, only served to degrade the original.
The Matrix is the Dark Knight Returns of movies. A kind of original, kind of good idea that fathered all sorts of derivative creations which, in turn, only served to degrade the original.
And, in both cases, the sequels were terrible.
The cartoons weren't so bad. Animatrix stuff.
You're correct there. Too bad it'll be remembered as a spin-off rather than something good in its own right.
Why would Sylar want Hiro to be executed instead of taking him for brain food?
Also, why couldn't Parkman tell that Nathan was really Sylar?
I wondered that too, but then I thought - as President I don't think Nathan/Syler would have much contact with him and it would be easy for Nathan to avoid.
Why would Sylar want Hiro to be executed instead of taking him for brain food?
Also, why couldn't Parkman tell that Nathan was really Sylar?
I wondered that too, but then I thought - as President I don't think Nathan/Syler would have much contact with him and it would be easy for Nathan to avoid.
Who knows what other powers Sylar's taken over the years. It's possible he got something like the Haitians abilities at some point. I mean, I would imagine that Peter would have been able to tell (Hey, now when I'm around you I can suddenly set things on fire, slam stuff around with TK and have an odd hunger for brains instead of just being able to fly) but he never noticed until right at the end when all pretense was dropped.
But they've already changed that timeline by travelling to the future and getting Isaac's "last issue". That was something that future samurai Hiro didn't do.
But they've already changed that timeline by travelling to the future and getting Isaac's "last issue". That was something that future samurai Hiro didn't do.
Aaah, taste the paradox!
Could be, since Hiro (amd Ando, seeing as he's along for the ride) are immune to the changes in the timestream seeing as how their jumping along through time. Recall, Future Hiro thought Claire was dead, and that Sylar killed her, but we saw her alive. But Peter still had a scar, meaning he never got her regen power.
So maybe their aren't multiple timelines, just one thats constantly in flux while Hiro hops around.
Peter had to get Claire's power or else he couldn't have survived the explosion - and he says that he was the one to explode. So I'm guessing that the scar is either because
A) The explosion was so traumatic that his body couldn't fully heal itself, or something like that.
or
He got hurt when the Haitian was around and didn't heal fully.
Also, Peter has the scar in the latest online comic, which only takes place one year after the explosion - so by the time of this latest episode, he's had it for at least four years.
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They were fixing it up when Hiro's in the future. It takes more than 5 years to rebuild a city.
You need to read this week's comic, so you do.
It mentions how in the future, supers are reviled much as mutants are on 616.
Anally.
Well, at least in Future Hiro's *original* timeline, that is before he tell peter to "save the cheerleader, save the world". After that he returns back to the Future, but we haven't seen enough to see if its the same situation. All we know is that NYC was still destroyed, thats about it.
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I'll just wait until it's on TV
(seriously, your'e reading the comics, right?)
Anally.
I downloaded up to like 28 or whatever but I haven't read them whoops
You would do well to read them, horrible art aside.
Anally.
"...it's almost biblical."
Linderman's plan went wrong because...
well...everyone was united - against 'specials'. As for the fight, yeah it would be cool to see more, but my imagination can come up with a much more badass fight then these guys can do on a public TV budget.
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Man, I was a little surprised by the twist b/c I could totally believe that given 5 years time, Nathan Petrelli could end up being a complete asshole. I was snowed.
also Adrian Pasdar fucking rocks. He caught onto Sylars mannerisms perfectly in that conversation with Claire.
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He was mimicking Sylar mimicking Nathan ever before then, though I imagine it was a little harder to tell if you weren't looking for it.
The people who didn't like this episode need their brains rewired to detect awesome, since those circuits are obviously malfunctioning.
And, in both cases, the sequels were terrible.
The cartoons weren't so bad. Animatrix stuff.
Also, why couldn't Parkman tell that Nathan was really Sylar?
You're correct there. Too bad it'll be remembered as a spin-off rather than something good in its own right.
I wondered that too, but then I thought - as President I don't think Nathan/Syler would have much contact with him and it would be easy for Nathan to avoid.
Anyway, Future Hiro's body is still there, and his brain's intact...
Aaah, taste the paradox!
So maybe their aren't multiple timelines, just one thats constantly in flux while Hiro hops around.
A) The explosion was so traumatic that his body couldn't fully heal itself, or something like that.
or
Also, Peter has the scar in the latest online comic, which only takes place one year after the explosion - so by the time of this latest episode, he's had it for at least four years.