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Burnout and Friends

MundaneSoulMundaneSoul fight fighterDaehan MingukRegistered User regular
edited September 2008 in Games and Technology
So I'm thinking getting my first Burnout game for much arcade racing enjoyment. I've never been the biggest fan of racing games but the idea of being rewarded for crashing like a whoremaster appeals to me.

Now it is up to you, PA, to convince me which game is the best of the series. Revenge is going for ultra-cheap right now through Goozex so it's probably my initial pick, but I'm open to being persuaded in a different direction if you can adequately extol your favorite entry into the series.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think Paradise is the best one, but it doesn't feature local multuplayer, so you should stick to Revenge or Burnout 3 if you plan to play with friends.

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  • ThePrimmThePrimm Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    i would say get burnout 3 it is the best in the series and has exactly what you are looking for. With friends it has a party crash mode that i still play with friends. Paradise is ok if you play with friends online no local multiplayer. Don't know too much about revenge never played it

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  • MundaneSoulMundaneSoul fight fighter Daehan MingukRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Local multiplayer is definitely necessary, so Paradise is probably out in that case. What's the difference between 3 and Revenge?

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Revenge is a ton of fun. My only problem with it is that loading times before races are fairly long. On the plus side, for the crash modes, you just have to load the level once and then you can replay it over and over without loading.

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  • CohsaeCohsae Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Speaking of Burnout, when the hell is Paradise coming to PC? I was so excited when they announced that and since the announcement I haven't heard a thing. That was months ago.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Revenge is probably the best in the series, and you can't go wrong with that. I have 3 as well, and while it's fun, Revenge just feels right when I'm playing it.

    That and I like the music selection on Revenge more than 3.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Burnout Revenge is both dirt cheap and totally awesome. I have the 360 version and it looks and plays beautifully.
    Local multiplayer is definitely necessary, so Paradise is probably out in that case. What's the difference between 3 and Revenge?

    I have both (3 on PS2 and Revenge on 360); I don't consider myself an expert level player by any means, so there might be finer differences, but the biggest one for me is traffic checking in Revenge. In both games, there are NPC-type passenger cars just filling up traffic and making you weave back and forth; in 3, if you ram one from behind, you crash, but in Revenge, if the car is smaller than yours you actually "check" the car, slamming it away. I didn't like traffic checking at first because it felt like cheating, but it actually becomes fun since you can use checked cars to takedown other players, and larger cars/trucks/buses will still kill you on impact anyway.

    If you have a 360, go with Revenge in a heartbeat; will probably be around the same price as 3 nowadays and it's just beautiful in motion.

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  • The Reverend Dr GalactusThe Reverend Dr Galactus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Sounds like Revenge is probably your best bet here, but Paradise still deserves a word or two yet.

    As a Burnout title it's an odd duck, with its roaming play structure and trading about of game modes... but exploring the city, learning the shortcuts, collecting billboard smashes, is a kind of fun I haven't had since GTA III.

    In a way, it's almost a companion to Revenge or B3, the earlier two vying for the pinnacle of classic Burnout and Paradise being a fantastic roaming racer that also incorporates a lot of what makes Burnout great.

    I'd get Revenge on 360 now and bookmark Paradise City for later.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I've seen Paradise for $30 new and I KNOW you can get Revenge for cheaper then that either new or used.

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  • GodfatherGodfather Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The best in the series was Burnout 3, not Revenge.

    I know it's all opinions and whatnot, but part of the reason why 3 topped Revenge was the fact that 3 was, in fact, more challenging in most ways, especially considering the fact that you can't knock cars away like you were the Incredible Hulk.

    No, you have to actually work for your wins here. Keeps you on your toes, and provides a much better gameplay experience.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Burnout 3 is the best Burnout by a considerable margin.

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  • Rigor MortisRigor Mortis Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Get Revenge. More gameplay modes makes it less likely your friends will beg for crash mode. I hate crash mode.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Get Revenge. More gameplay modes makes it less likely your friends will beg for crash mode. I hate crash mode.

    You are insane. Crash mode was the best thing ever.


    Ever.

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  • Rigor MortisRigor Mortis Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Get Revenge. More gameplay modes makes it less likely your friends will beg for crash mode. I hate crash mode.

    You are insane. Crash mode was the best thing ever.


    Ever.
    5 seconds of driving and ten minutes of waiting, especially in a multiplayer game, does not exciting fun times make. It puts me to sleep. I want to be tearing around corners chaining burnouts with my eyes drying out because I don't dare blink.

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  • JebuJebu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Godfather wrote: »
    The best in the series was Burnout 3, not Revenge.

    I know it's all opinions and whatnot, but part of the reason why 3 topped Revenge was the fact that 3 was, in fact, more challenging in most ways, especially considering the fact that you can't knock cars away like you were the Incredible Hulk.

    No, you have to actually work for your wins here. Keeps you on your toes, and provides a much better gameplay experience.

    See, now this is exactly why I loved Revenge. So over the top and fun.

    Honestly both Burnout 3 and Revenge are pretty challenging and they're both awesome. Revenge just slightly edges out for me because of it's inherent ridiculousness.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    but.... the ten minutes of waiting is while your car flips over twenty seven times blowing up sixty million dollars worth of vehicles. It is incredible.

    It is also a deeply satisfying puzzle game, picking the perfect way to smash your car to chain the carnage, when to pop the detonator to keep the ball rolling. It's great. I really missed it in Paradise.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    So Paradise doesn't have crash mode, local multiplayer, and you can't traffic check either? There goes any desire I have to buy Paradise.

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  • CohsaeCohsae Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Add me to the list of people who think traffic checking is lame. It cheapens the game when you can avoid a crash just by being on the right side of the road. I had way more fun with the original Burnout than with Revenge (those are the only two that I've played).

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Paradise has showtime which is kinda like crash mode, but with the puzzle element removed so it's not nearly as good.

    Personally I just didn't like the open world setup. For the mode where you get chased by a pack of balck cars trying to kill you it was cool, but actual races I didn't like it at all.

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  • xWonderboyxxWonderboyx Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    This thread makes me want to pick up 3 again. Memories of playing on live late at night with scandanavian dudes telling us that everyone in america loves george bush and we all have guns and wear cowboy hats. All while listening to mastodon.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Paradise is the best Burnout by a lot, but if youre dead set on local multiplayer get 3 its the second best. i only ever played the ps2 version though so i dunno what systems youre looking at here. the track design and gameplay changes in Revenge took things in a lame direction i dunno. 3 had the perfect blend of racing and crashing, whereas Revenge with the horrible traffic checking and tracks was way skewed towards crashing instead of actually racing. i never even played that bastard offspring one that came out in between Revenge and Paradise, dunno what to say about that one.

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  • ThePrimmThePrimm Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    So Paradise doesn't have crash mode, local multiplayer, and you can't traffic check either? There goes any desire I have to buy Paradise.

    Paradise does have traffic checking you just have to be a certain type of car

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Cohsae wrote: »
    Add me to the list of people who think traffic checking is lame. It cheapens the game when you can avoid a crash just by being on the right side of the road. I had way more fun with the original Burnout than with Revenge (those are the only two that I've played).

    I like traffic checking because it makes Burnout Revenge NOT LIKE ANY OTHER RACING GAME. And that's a good thing. Every time my friends bring up PGR or GT I roll my eyes because I think it's stupid to have to drive so perfectly to actually enjoy the game.

    In Revenge, someone passes you up... You knock that sissy van on its ass and it flies over to the guy and slams him out of the road. That is so awesome.

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Burnout 3>Most other games ever made.

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  • JebuJebu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    Cohsae wrote: »
    Add me to the list of people who think traffic checking is lame. It cheapens the game when you can avoid a crash just by being on the right side of the road. I had way more fun with the original Burnout than with Revenge (those are the only two that I've played).

    I like traffic checking because it makes Burnout Revenge NOT LIKE ANY OTHER RACING GAME. And that's a good thing. Every time my friends bring up PGR or GT I roll my eyes because I think it's stupid to have to drive so perfectly to actually enjoy the game.

    In Revenge, someone passes you up... You knock that sissy van on its ass and it flies over to the guy and slams him out of the road. That is so awesome.

    Not to mention it's not like driving in the oncoming lane is bad; you get way more boost driving against traffic than you do checking traffic.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    traffic checking took away most of the challenge, and made things way too random in general.

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  • CohsaeCohsae Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ah_Pook wrote: »
    traffic checking took away most of the challenge, and made things way too random in general.

    Yeah I think that's why I really liked the first one. If you wanted to make an opponent crash you had to work for it. Jostling each other as you saw an approaching semi-trailer or a pylon or whathaveyou. Made it very satisfying when you pulled it off. Revenge was so crazy over the top. You run into a van which goes flying into a car which pinballs around until it hits your opponent who then takes out half the pack with a nuclear explosion.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ah_Pook wrote: »
    traffic checking took away most of the challenge, and made things way too random in general.

    Well I still think the game is hard, honestly. And I'd rather have FUN wrecking someone's shit, than be frustrated that the game is too hard. When I play Revenge, it's to wreck some shit with my car. I really don't care much about racing... I just love making people wreck hardcore.

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  • UFOffUFOff Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Burnout 3>Most other games ever made.

    This is my first lime ever. Think about that, OP.

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  • nlawalkernlawalker Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I have probably gotten more bang per buck out of Paradise than any other game I have ever owned, and I barely even take it online.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Paradise seems to be the polarizing one. Personally, I hate it more then I ever thought I could hate a video game. Showtime is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen.

    It would have been so easy to keep in Crash mode but noooooooo

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    UFOff wrote: »
    Burnout 3>Most other games ever made.

    This is my first lime ever. Think about that, OP.

    It would have had more impact had you actually used lime.

    I'll take Revenge over 3, but not by a lot.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Cloudman wrote: »
    It would have been so easy to keep in Crash mode but noooooooo

    crash mode wouldnt work at all with the setup of paradise, just sayin. even if you dont play showtime ever (i havent since i got all the roadrules) theres still a ton of other stuff to do.

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  • The Reverend Dr GalactusThe Reverend Dr Galactus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    In a way, I could almost imagine them working it in.

    You'd pull up to a Crash event dotted intersection about two blocks from one of the finish areas, start the event, and...

    Atomika:

    "It's time to Crash. Drive south, toward the stadium. Line up your shot and hit the ramp to cause as much damage as possible."


    This would probably involve a ramp suddenly being erected for your event, unless a roadside prop were handy.

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  • WillybubbaWillybubba Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I have to go with 3 as well. Revenge's traffic checking ruined it for me.

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  • nlawalkernlawalker Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Cloudman wrote: »
    Paradise seems to be the polarizing one. Personally, I hate it more then I ever thought I could hate a video game. Showtime is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen.

    It would have been so easy to keep in Crash mode but noooooooo

    I didn't like Showtime that much either. I saved it all until the end of the game, and it made up only a small fraction of playtime.

    If you really like Crash mode, I'd get a different Burnout, but if you like racing/stunts/online, Paradise is great. At first I resented having to learn the whole city as I don't have time for that kind of stuff anymore (I still kind of wish they had kept standard tracks), but as you play it more, the city grows on you, and you'll find the jumps and shortcuts that are actually meaningful/fast/fun.

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  • wakeboarderbluntwakeboarderblunt Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Burnout 3 and Burnout Paradise are very different games as far as I'm concerned.
    I played the hell out of Burnout 3 and still do occasionally, for my crash mode, split-screen, and general "arcade racer" feel that I've loved since San Francisco Rush.
    Burnout Paradise is my favorite for the city/look/car aqusition/pretty. I do miss the explosions from 3, but the damage modelling is beautiful. I've played the game more than most of my 360 games, the online is great and the game is still being updated with new features. You can find Paradise for less than $30, with the free DLC I don't see how people can undervalue this game.

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  • EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I prefered Revenge over 3. Only for traffic checking. Other than they play pretty much the same. Not gonna lie. Traffic Checking the only real difference.

    edit - actually. I liked the crash mode in 3 more.

    Paradise is my fav of the series. man, I put 60 hours in to that game in the first 2 weeks I had it.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Burnout never really made it into my rotation of games for local multiplayer because the loading was always atrocious Maybe that's better on the Xbox Originals version as it's all located on the hard drive? I have sunk so many hours into both 3 and Paradise than I'd recommend either of them - Burnout 3 is backwards-compatible on both the PS3 and 360 as well - at least, on the systems that do it.

    I would recommend Burnout Paradise to anyone in a heartbeat. I've spent more time with it - both online and off - than I have any other game and they keep adding new stuff to it (a whole new single-player bike campaign this month, for example). Traffic checking is still present but a lot more toned down - there's much more of a speed penalty for it this time around and it's balanced a lot more fairly.

    Burnout 3 feels dated but it's still an absolute blast. It's very much a controller-snapper but it's oh-so-satisfying.

    The combination of the OTT traffic-checking and the in-race Crashbreaker killed Revenge for me. It felt like Criterion knew that those features made it a little too easy so they tightened the rubber-banding, and it ended up feeling hollow. The best incarnation of Road Rage was in Revenge but everything else was sub-par.

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  • AnteCantelopeAnteCantelope Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    It makes me sad that nobody has mentioned Burnout 2. I think that this was the best in the series, before it went lolbigcrash, and was still about driving really fast. I bought a PS2 just for Burnout (I picked up a few other games as well, but I bought Burnout 3, takedown, and domination the day I bought the PS2), and never played any one game for more than a week. In that time I completed it (as in 100% completion), got bored with it, and eventually returned them all. Burnout 2, however, has me still trying to challenge world records. It is an awesome racing game, and I highly recommend it.

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